Zone1 Let it be said that legalized abortion on demand cheapens/ devalues life.

Do you agree that legalized abortion has a net effect of devaluing life?


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I say it’s not virtuous to be forced to be virtuous.
then why are you in favor of forcing your catholic version of morality and virtue on women when they become pregnant and choose not to deliver?
 
then why are you in favor of forcing your catholic version of morality and virtue on women when they become pregnant and choose not to deliver?
I’m not forcing anything on anyone. This is me participating in our secular governance. Why are you trying to force your beliefs onto me?
 
I’m not forcing anything on anyone.
you are requiring the government to issue citations without against a woman who has done nothing to harm you or interfere in your rights in any way based on your religious beliefs. You are using the government to coerce somebody.

I am not using the government to coerce you into anything I am trying to tell you you’re full of shit when you say you aren’t forcing anybody

You and your Catholic religion are trying to force all women to go to full term gestation if they get pregnant
 
you are requiring the government to issue citations without against a woman who has done nothing to harm you or interfere in your rights in any way based on your religious beliefs. You are using the government to coerce somebody.

I am not using the government to coerce you into anything I am trying to tell you you’re full of shit when you say you aren’t forcing anybody

You and your Catholic religion are trying to force all women to go to full term gestation if they get pregnant
No. I’m just a guy expressing my opinion. An opinion you find so offensive that you would rather I not express it.
 
No. I’m just a guy expressing my opinion. An opinion you find so offensive that you would rather I not express it.
as usual now you have to resorted to lying because you’re stuck.

I have never proposed that a police officer come to your house and arrest you or issue a citation for expressing a stupid opinion. I am happy that You are free to do so because it shows just how stupid you are.’ and that benefits the world in a small way.

I am also free to expose your ignorance in your stupidity and your lack of rational critical thinking ability.

I do not believe as a rational theist as where our first five out of six presidents that we should involve the government and law-enforcement when an individual is doing no harm to society and not interfering in anyone else’s rights.

That’s the difference between you and me. I stand for women to have the same freedom and liberty and autonomy over their own body as men have.

You take the cat position. Her body belongs to the government and over God.

Your desert god Yahwey. We might call him “your way.”
 
as usual now you have to resorted to lying because you’re stuck.

I have never proposed that a police officer come to your house and arrest you or issue a citation for expressing a stupid opinion. I am happy that You are free to do so because it shows just how stupid you are.’ and that benefits the world in a small way.

I am also free to expose your ignorance in your stupidity and your lack of rational critical thinking ability.

I do not believe as a rational theist as where our first five out of six presidents that we should involve the government and law-enforcement when an individual is doing no harm to society and not interfering in anyone else’s rights.

That’s the difference between you and me. I stand for women to have the same freedom and liberty and autonomy over their own body as men have.

You take the cat position. Her body belongs to the government and over God.

Your desert god Yahwey. We might call him “your way.”
I’m not lying. You know my position. It hasn’t changed and it’s not going to change. You don’t like it when I express my opinion because it’s different than yours.
 
I’m not lying. You know my position.

you lied about my position

Right here

I’m just a guy expressing my opinion. An opinion you find so offensive that you would rather I not express it.​
 
When someone claims to be a defender of basic human rights but insists we all deny the basic human rights of the smallest, youngest, most vulnerable human beings of all. . .

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you lied about my position

Right here

I’m just a guy expressing my opinion. An opinion you find so offensive that you would rather I not express it.​
I didn’t lie about your position. I don’t care about your position. Your first clue should be I’ve never argued with you about your position.

What you meant to say is that I lied that you find my position offensive and would rather I not express it. But that’s not a lie. All you do is complain about my position.
 
What you meant to say is that I lied that you find my position offensive and would rather I not express it.
That is s lie’ I do not find your position offensive and I am appreciative that you express it because it so stupid’

The truth is your misdemeanor citation is s restriction on a woman’s liberty over an issue rhat is none of your business

that is telling you the truth about your position.
 
That is s lie’ I do not find your position offensive and I am appreciative that you express it because it so stupid’

The truth is your misdemeanor citation is s restriction on a woman’s liberty over an issue rhat is none of your business

that is telling you the truth about your position.
And you find that “restriction” offensive which is why you keep arguing against it.

I don’t see it as a restriction though.
 
I think a person's rights should begin when their life does. It's just not something I think I have the right to arbitrarily "bargain" with. . . especially with anyone who refuses to accept that it's a human life, child, etc.

I've offered to "compromise" along those lines before, figuratively, of course, I can't make the laws.

But, figuratively, I've been frustrated enough to offer; "just admit you are killing children, and you can have all the abortions you want."
I believe in, "My body my choice", and they choose to get pregnant, so I wish them well with their new baby in 9 months.
 
I stand for women to have the same freedom and liberty and autonomy over their own body as men have.
Can you help me understand why it is that you don't think a woman (or any other human being) should have a right to their body, from the time THEIR body begins?
 
Can you help me understand why it is that you don't think a woman (or any other human being) should have a right to their body, from the time THEIR body begiins.

Everyone has the same natural rights with right to life from nature’s god as everybody does when they are born. Nature’s god has expectations that half of all conceptions end in miscarriages thus people in nature have no right to a body before being born.

The star of Bethlehem hovered over the place where Jesus was born so three wise man could be there to celebrate the birth of a king. They were not there at the moment of conception as far as I know, and the specia star wasn’t shining overhead when Yahweh and Mary did it.
 
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Everyone has the same natural rights with right to life from nature’s god as everybody does when they are born. Nature’s god has expectations that half of all conceptions end in miscarriages thus people in nature have no right to a body before being born.

The star of Bethlehem hovered over the place where Jesus was born so three wise man could be there to celebrate the birth of a king. They were not there at the moment of conception as far as I know, and the specia star wasn’t shining overhead when Yahweh and Mary did it.
So fetal HOMICIDE laws?
 
Can you help me understand why it is that you don't think a woman (or any other human being) should have a right to their body, from the time THEIR body begins?

Okay, their body begins the day someone issues a birth certificate.

May 6th, 1962. No one named Joseph B(131) existed.

On May 7th, he did.

See how that works.
 
Okay, their body begins the day someone issues a birth certificate.

May 6th, 1962. No one named Joseph B(131) existed.

On May 7th, he did.

See how that works.
Your claim is unsupported by any biological facts, Joey. And I don't even need to check with any AI chatbots to know that you can't back up your (above) claim.
 
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