Zone1 Let it be said that legalized abortion on demand cheapens/ devalues life.

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

I explained this to you mulitple times.

if the fetus isn't viable, they don't have a right to someone else's body.

Her body, her choice.

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Her only valid choice was to not get pregnant if she didn't want a child.




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[Crepitus]

Do you agree that legalized abortion has an effect of devaluing life in a society that sees abortions as anything less than a violation of the basic human rights of the children that are denied and killed?

Here is a link to a news story that I feel illustrates the point very well.

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Feel free to provide other examples and discuss (Zone 1 style.)

What devalues life is the tRumplings forcing children that will not be cared for into the world to suffer.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

What devalues life is the tRumplings forcing children that will not be cared for into the world to suffer.

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The only person "forcing" that child into the world is the woman who made the CHOICE of having irresponsible sex.





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[Chuz Life]

What devalues life is the tRumplings forcing children that will not be cared for into the world to suffer.

Even if that claim is correct (and it isn't), it doesn't answer the question in the OP.

It's only an attempt to divert.

 

[Chuz Life]

You don't have a point.

You think Globby is a person.

Medical Science doesn't.
The Law doesn't.

Even the Bible doesn't.

And a good thing, too.

Otherwise, we'd have to charge women with assault for engaging in sports, smoking, having a sip of wine, or not eating the right food during pregnancy.

We'd have to investigate every miscarriage as a homicide.

And in vitro fertilization? Forget about it, putting Globby in deep freeze forever after his parents got the child they wanted would be violating their human rights.

Again proves the point in the OP!

 

[Crepitus]

Even if that claim is correct (and it isn't), it doesn't answer the question in the OP.

It's only an attempt to divert.

It's an answer, and it's true.

You just don't like it.

 

[Chuz Life]

It's an answer, and it's true.

You just don't like it.

Has nothing to do with the OP

And, it's also not true.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I won't challenge your insights on all things "moronic."

You shouldn't as you are both experts apparently.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Back to the dishes, Sink Worrier. Once again, you are out of your league. SCOTUS will say nothing because they have already said it. State issue. Not in the Constitution. Have a nice day!

They fid not actually. They in no way said anything about legal interactions between states.

 

[Chuz Life]

There goes my projection detector again....

No indications until now.

Interesting.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They fid not actually. They in no way said anything about legal interactions between states.

States cannot sue each other except in federal court. The court decides if they have a case or not. Unless state laws violate the Constitution, nothing can be done.

Imagine Texas suing NY over their gun laws, saying they are too restrictive. Not happening!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

There goes my projection detector again....

No indications until now.

Interesting.

Who are you addressing? The walls? Ceiling fan? Light switch? Talking to yourself?

 

[JoeB131]

You help illustrate the point and reason for the OP, Joe.

All your denials and dismissiveness about the real human lives that are taken with and by abortions on demand.

It amounts to a devaluation. A lot of people are increasingly desensitized by it.

You don't see it.

You refuse to see it.

But it's still there.

No human lives are taken in an abortion.
No human lives are lost in a miscarriage.
No human lives are lost when the Zygote doesn't attack the uterine wall.

I grew up with the Catholic Fetus Porn Nonsense. Even believed it for a number of years after I stopped being Catholic.

then I realized the absurdity of giving a glob of tissue the size of a kidney bean more rights than the woman it is inside.

If you guys want fewer abortions, that's fine. It's an unpleasant procedure. There are ways to reduce them, such as sex education, contraception, paid family leave, and universal health care.

When you guys support that, then you can get back to me about the sanctity of Globby's life.

 

[JoeB131]

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Her only valid choice was to not get pregnant if she didn't want a child.
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Nope. She has the choice to get rid of it as well.

And they'll keep doing that no matter how many silly laws you pass in the red states.

 

[Chuz Life]

Nope. She has the choice to get rid of it as well.

And they'll keep doing that no matter how many silly laws you pass in the red states.

"The choice to GET RID of IT"

Does this comment not indicate the lack of value, specified in the OP?

 

[JoeB131]

'The choice to GET RID of IT"

Does this comment nor indicate the lack of value, specified in the OP?

It has no value to start with, that's the thing.

Just like if it would have no value if it was a natural miscarriage.

 

[Chuz Life]

It has no value to start with, that's the thing.

Just like if it would have no value if it was a natural miscarriage.

I wish we could add a poll to replies to posts like yours, here.

How many of those who voted #2 in the OP poll agree with Joe in the previous posts, quoted above?

Of course, I probably shouldn't expect any honest answers, but I do anyway.

 

[Chuz Life]

If you are inclined to defend this in any way?

You are further proving the devaluation that's taking place.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

If you are inclined to defend this in any way?

You are further proving the devaluation that's taking place.



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The devil.


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[JoeB131]

If you are inclined to defend this in any way?

You are further proving the devaluation that's taking place.

No, there's a difference between a full-term baby and a fetus the size of a kidney bean.

This girl sounds like she had a lot of problems, and the adults in her life weren't taking responsibility.