Zone1 Let it be said that legalized abortion on demand cheapens/ devalues life.

Do you agree that legalized abortion has a net effect of devaluing life?


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No, a zygote isn't the same as a person, and it would be laughable to treat them as such
I never said it was. I said a fertilized zygote is. Read carefully. At the moment of syngamy, it forms a unique genome of its own. Syngamy occurs typically about 24 hours after conception. When the first mitotic split occurs shortly thereafter, it becomes an embryo proper.

However, syngamy establishes the genetic uniqueness of the zygote/embryo. Science and personal beliefs are not compatible. Correct and factually confirmed science is immutable, your political stances on abortion notwithstanding.
 
Children do not ruin your life....they add to it.
A quality life is full of "self actualization" and relationships with love being the goal. (Not romantic love but the normal kind)

Children usually love their parents as long as they aren't abusive or brainwashed.

Removing the ultimate in self actualization for something much more fleeting is a bait and switch.

South Korea has an inverted pyramid for age demographics. Their society is going to completely unravel in the next few years due to the lack of Children, marriage, and relationships. They valued their careers over families....and the last few generations will be desperate for any relationship with anyone. But South Korea is not going to exist anymore as a culture....unless people begin to have 4-6 or even 12 children per household.

The same is coming to the USA soon....Mexico is next....Canada is in the same boat.

If our culture is going to remain in the future....we cannot continue the practice except for the most dire of circumstances.

We need 3+ children per household minimim now just to catch up. Money is not the most important thing for a household. Careers are fleeting and usually gone for new technology anyway. Family is the only constant...and you get what you build. But the key is that you have to focus on the needs and feelings of others (your children) instead of yourself...difficult for many in this self centered generation.
 
Again, transgender people aren't the topic here. They aren't bothering you, leave them alone.
I do apologize, but the irony is too hard to pass up.


Mice have never had wars, or slavery, or concentration camps, or Jim Crow.
Mice do not have the most complex brains of any animal on earth, or in the known universe, either. This is a red herring that you introduced on your own, sir. Let's kindly stick to the point, as you so reminded me to do.


Actually, if you apply science, individual human lives aren't that valuable except to the person living it.
If we were to apply this logic to the human species, it would cease to exist. We would destroy each other in one enormous, immutable instant of violence. What separates us from the rest of animalia is our ability to recognize and place immeasurable value on the life we create.

If I were to employ this logic, I would be compelled to walk up to the nearest person I see and strike them down in cold blood, because "individual human lives aren't that valuable, except to the person living it." That line of reasoning wouldn't go over well in my murder trial, mister.

Your logic is almost sociopathic, bordering on psychopathy. Respectfully, I find it uniquely disturbing that you can freely argue this kind of premise on an open forum without one modicum of conviction, all because of this all-consuming, all-encompassing need to have an unfettered right to abortion on demand without apology.

When the right to "choose" becomes so paramount to you that you sacrifice any or all ethical reasoning to attain it, is it truly worth attaining?
 
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Further, I imagine transgenders get less abortions, because they are trans.
Transgenders are sterile.
And they usually don't have much of a dating life whatsoever. Nobody wants to date them or have physical intimacy with them. (As noted by EVERY psychologist)

When it comes to physical intimacy people prefer genuineness over manufactured every time.
 
Further, I imagine transgenders get less abortions, because they are trans.
Might I offer a bit of an observation?

That doesn't help that argument; truthfully, it undermines it. The very concept of birth undermines the idea that one can suddenly become the opposite gender.

But since this is off topic, I'll not discuss the matter any further here.
 
Might I offer a bit of an observation?

That doesn't help that argument; truthfully, it undermines it. The very concept of birth undermines the idea that one can suddenly become the opposite gender.

But since this is off topic, I'll not discuss the matter any further here.
Referring more to the topic of abortion.
 
I have known several. They were people like everyone. Of course I am not into putting undesirables into camps for orderly disposal.
Not so sure....
Most I met were openly self destructive. And when someone is self destructive the psychotic behavior can easily and quickly be thrust onto unsuspecting others. Which is why so many of the popular school or mass gathering shooters were also "transgender".
 
Not so sure....
Most I met were openly self destructive. And when someone is self destructive the psychotic behavior can easily and quickly be thrust onto unsuspecting others. Which is why so many of the popular school or mass gathering shooters were also "transgender".
All two of them.
 
Thats up to them. ALso has naught to do with this thread.
Actually it does,

It means that the "Hollywood MESSAGE" is false from one end to the other. The "MESSAGE " inserted into each and every crap movie produced for the past 20 years as if it was a prerequisite for getting made.

A significant portion of that "MESSAGE" was "abortion on demand for everyone at anytime."

And it's been an absolute self-created nightmare living through its installation. It's been an absolute failure. Not one woman has ever continued with the belief she was truly glad she aborted her children. It's at best a short-term belief she was brainwashed into believing.

And it's been disastrous drain on our culture and economy BOTH. We have literally aborted the best and brightest minds of the 21st century because they were inconvenient for their parents due to timing or minor birth defects.

And where people might claim I hold outdated ideals....let me just say, the new set of ideals they are promoting ain't working whatsoever. We can't immigrate and assimilate the requisite numbers needed to grow our American culture and lifestyles. We have to birth them and raise them. There is no other choice.

If we do not raise our live births per woman to a 2.7 or a 3.1 to make up for lost births....our nation will collapse.
Currently it's at 1.7 and nosediving.
 
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So are we next going to talk about the death penalty?
To keep the hate flowing?
Infanticide, euthanasia, then social engineering to the point of genocide.

Congradulations....you just became just like Hitler. He favored all these things.

First "kill all the Jews"
Then kill all the Africans...
Then Kill all the Asians....
Then the South Americans....
Then.....

It won't matter....there will be nobody left to stand up and assist those wanting to survive such despotism.
 
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