Leading Conservative Pundit "Ashamed And Embarrassed" To Have Voted For Trump

[Mac-7]

You are not a true conservative. Or you would not support Trump.

Who would I support?

The disloyal opposition

 

[schmidlap]

I am no partisan. What I do see is that while Democrats are not perfect, they are not the same as Republicans. And if you actually believe both sides are equally evil, you are an idiot. Period. So until you can show a viable 3rd party position that makes sense, all you are is a loudmouth who thinks you are holier than thou, talking about how both sides suck but have no better solution.

To me, it appears less a matter of forming opinions based upon credible data rather than embracing cultist dogma.

When reasoned, logical and documented facts are not countered with contradictory reasoned, logical and documented facts, but with tenets of faith mindlessly embraced and passionately expressed, what we have is a failure to communicate.

That closed-mindedness is likely to encompass science, medicine, and other academic disciplines as well as politics.

 

[Mac-7]

You don't understand what it means to be a "conservative".

Republicans never believed in tariffs...until stupid Trump came along.

Republicans never had a problem with mail-in voting....until stupid Trump came along.

Republicans never had a problem with birth right citizenship....until stupid Trump came along.

Believing what one man deranged man tells you to be believe is not conservative. It's radical, cult-like thinking is what it is.

You are wrong on everything

The tariff issue goes back to before the civil war

The industrial north wanted tariff protection and elected Lincoln

The South wanted unrestricted free trade and were democrats

But more recently the rolls reversed with repubs favoring free trade and the dems tepresented the unions and they wanted tariffs

Now MAGAs want balanced trade that does not grow china and put American workers out of a job

Trump didnt force that thinking

Instead he embraced it

As for birthright citizenship it should not be given to anyone except the children of permanent residents , not tourists or illegal aliens

And that predates trump by many years

 

[Alicia J]

Trump didnt force that thinking

He most certainly did. Every Republican in Congress and every Republican President has supported free trade for the past 90 years.

But since the Republican Party is now a cult, they just do whatever Trump tells them to do.

It was truly pathetic watching every Republican in Congress clap like trained seals as Trump bragged about his disastrous tariffs, during his SOTU speech.

It was creepy, too....something straight out of North Korea.

As for birthright citizenship it should not be given to anyone except the children of permanent residents , not tourists or illegal aliens

And that predates trump by many years

Yeah, it predates Trump.....arguments made by white racist attorneys in the late 19th century.

 

[IM2]

You're the one being idiotic. I've answered this, over and over again - but you can't seem to hear the answer. Maybe just don't want to. But I'm not voting for evil. Not voting for shitty parties with shitty candidates and shitty platforms. I don't care which on is "lesser". Deliberately voting for bad candidates is bone dead stupid, no matter what excuse the two entrenched parties spin up.

Maybe you missed the memo. No third parties are viable. The two entrenched parties have ensured that. The simple truth is, if you want to see better candidates, better parties, you have to STOP voting for the bad ones.

I know, you think that would "letting" some other candidate win. And it might. Kicking most bad habits involves a little pain. But if we simply stop voting for them, they'll come around. Even if they're still dominant.

Let's say lots of people did what I'm suggesting, and refused to vote for either the D or the R when they both suck. And let's say enough of us did that that it resulted in the leading candidate "winning" with only 30% of the popular vote. Do you realize the shock wave that would create - through both parties? Talk about a ******* mandate. It's the only thing that will get their attention and inspire them to change.

I'm not holier than you. That's why I'm not "offering" you a better solution.

But it doesn't matter, does it? If someone does offer you a better solution, you'd still vote Democrat regardless. That's why no one bothers to offer alternatives. And they won't bother until voters make it clear they've had enough. That they have broken out of their trance and will no longer fall for the bullshit.

Unfortunately for you, I look at policies, not candidates. I read the Harris plan and compared it to Project 2025. Had a third party had a better plan, I'd vote for them. But the Harris plan, if it were implemented, would have been awesome. You talk about both parties, but Biden actually did a good job. So you show me a third party with a plan that meets the needs of the working/middle classes, small businesses and potential startups better than the plan Harris had, I'll certainly vote for them.

When you say both parties suck, you ignore the down-ballot candidates, many of whom can get cross-party votes. I have voted for Republicans and Independents in my state elections over Democrats. So like I said, you both party sucks types are not living in reality.

 

[Stryder50]

With all the terrible things happening in this country right now, especially the war in Iran and the high price of gas and groceries, more and more MAGA pundits are turning their backs on Trump. --

Leading conservative pundit 'ashamed and embarrassed' for voting Trump

Tuesday, amidst news of President Donald Trump’s catastrophic handling of the war on Iran, conservatives are expressing outrage not only about his actions, but about the fact that they voted for him in the first place. While the war has many MAGA supporters angry, one leading voice on the right...

www.alternet.org

Another Left Wing Nut ~ Marxist source of pravda.
Trying to pass off as "conservative" or "objective" when far from it.

From their main page;

AlterNet's Mission

AlterNet is an award-winning news magazine and online community that creates original journalism and amplifies the best of hundreds of other independent media sources. AlterNet's aim is to inspire action and advocacy on the environment, human rights and civil liberties, social justice, media, health care issues, and more. Since its inception in 1998, AlterNet.org has grown dramatically to keep pace with the public demand for independent news. We provide free online content to millions of readers, serving as a reliable filter, keeping our vast audience well-informed and engaged, helping them to navigate a culture of information overload and providing an alternative to the commercial media onslaught.
...

About AlterNet

AlterNet's MissionAlterNet is an award-winning news magazine and online community that creates original journalism and amplifies the best of hundreds of other independent media sources. AlterNet's aim is to inspire action and advocacy on the environment, human rights and civil liberties, social...

www.alternet.org

 

[Alicia J]

Another Left Wing Nut ~ Marxist source of pravda.
Trying to pass off as "conservative" or "objective" when far from it.

From their main page;

AlterNet's Mission

AlterNet is an award-winning news magazine and online community that creates original journalism and amplifies the best of hundreds of other independent media sources. AlterNet's aim is to inspire action and advocacy on the environment, human rights and civil liberties, social justice, media, health care issues, and more. Since its inception in 1998, AlterNet.org has grown dramatically to keep pace with the public demand for independent news. We provide free online content to millions of readers, serving as a reliable filter, keeping our vast audience well-informed and engaged, helping them to navigate a culture of information overload and providing an alternative to the commercial media onslaught.
...

About AlterNet

AlterNet's MissionAlterNet is an award-winning news magazine and online community that creates original journalism and amplifies the best of hundreds of other independent media sources. AlterNet's aim is to inspire action and advocacy on the environment, human rights and civil liberties, social...

www.alternet.org

So these former diehard MAGA conservatives did not make these comments? Did Alternet just make it all up?

What is your argument exactly? Do you even know or are you just whining because Trump has completely crapped the bed?

 

[MisterBeale]

These guys enabled this fool and are just as responsible as Trump is for the mess we are in.

If Kamala had won, we would be in no different a situation, well, except maybe we would still be having to put up with the establishment telling us that perverted men are women.

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Jimmy responds to criticism of Trump voters by noting that the alternative was Kamala Harris—who openly supported the Gaza genocide and the Ukraine proxy war—while Trump at least had a first-term track record of not starting new wars.

He argues that Americans are finally realizing the ballot box offers two options that both serve the same war machine and Israeli lobby, with billions flowing annually regardless of which party is in power. The segment concludes that when a comedian speaks more truth than every senator combined, it reveals the complete collapse of American democracy.

 

[Stryder50]

So these former diehard MAGA conservatives did not make these comments? Did Alternet just make it all up?

What is your argument exactly? Do you even know or are you just whining because Trump has completely crapped the bed?

I'm skeptical that 'Alternet' reports honestly, accurately, in context, and without bias or distortion.
Just want make others aware of the discreditably source for the OP.

I don't share your anti-USA pravda.
BTW, I'm not convinced Scott McConnell is a "Leading Conservative Pundit".

Scott McConnell - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

FWIW, never heard of him, or see him at the conservative sources I go to.

 

[ThisIsMe]

With all the terrible things happening in this country right now, especially the war in Iran and the high price of gas and groceries, more and more MAGA pundits are turning their backs on Trump. --

Leading conservative pundit 'ashamed and embarrassed' for voting Trump

Tuesday, amidst news of President Donald Trump’s catastrophic handling of the war on Iran, conservatives are expressing outrage not only about his actions, but about the fact that they voted for him in the first place. While the war has many MAGA supporters angry, one leading voice on the right...

www.alternet.org

Never heard of them

 

[Alicia J]

I'm skeptical that 'Alternet' reports honestly, accurately, in context, and without bias or distortion.
Just want make others aware of the discreditably source for the OP.

I don't share your anti-USA pravda.

It doesn't matter what you think about Alternet -- Did they make up the quotes or not?

If they didn't make up the quotes, then your MAGA whining is completely irrelevant and you are just expressing sour grapes about how badly Trump has sucked during the past 15 months.

 

[Hollie]

With all the terrible things happening in this country right now, especially the war in Iran and the high price of gas and groceries, more and more MAGA pundits are turning their backs on Trump. --

Leading conservative pundit 'ashamed and embarrassed' for voting Trump

Tuesday, amidst news of President Donald Trump’s catastrophic handling of the war on Iran, conservatives are expressing outrage not only about his actions, but about the fact that they voted for him in the first place. While the war has many MAGA supporters angry, one leading voice on the right...

www.alternet.org

You scoured the web for that? Congrats on your wasted time. Just think, you could have been doing something productive like sewing frog and Barney costumes.

 

[Stryder50]

It doesn't matter what you think about Alternet -- Did they make up the quotes or not?

If they didn't make up the quotes, then your MAGA whining is completely irrelevant and you are just expressing sour grapes about how badly Trump has sucked during the past 15 months.

I'm not convinced they are the "conservatives" they claim to be.
Too many quisling libturds LWNJs claim they are/were "conservative" to get false credibility.

Besides, their opinions either way to me don't amount to much, FWIW.

 

[Hollie]

It doesn't matter what you think about Alternet -- Did they make up the quotes or not?

If they didn't make up the quotes, then your MAGA whining is completely irrelevant and you are just expressing sour grapes about how badly Trump has sucked during the past 15 months.

Talk about suck. Suck on low inflation, a spectacular March jobs report, expanding GDP and manufacturing and increasing wages.

Have a good suck.

 

[dudmuck]

I'm skeptical that 'Alternet' reports honestly, accurately, in context, and without bias or distortion.
Just want make others aware of the discreditably source for the OP.

I don't share your anti-USA pravda.
BTW, I'm not convinced Scott McConnell is a "Leading Conservative Pundit".
FWIW, never heard of him, or see him at the conservative sources I go to.

you could read Scott Mcconnel's own words. no need for Alternet.

 

[Stryder50]

you could read Scott Mcconnel's own words. no need for Alternet.

I've more important things to do than read another malcontents rants.

 

[Alicia J]

I've more important things to do than read another malcontents rants.

Like continue to believe Trump's bullshit lies?

 

[MisterBeale]

It doesn't matter what you think about Alternet -- Did they make up the quotes or not?

Arguing by use of fallacies is usually the only argument low information drive by posters have.

If they wanted to know whether what Alternet reported was the truth, they could find out. It isn't like this is 1980 anymore.
Most boomers don't get it though, or, they really don't WANT to know the facts.

 

[Lockback]

With all the terrible things happening in this country right now, especially the war in Iran and the high price of gas and groceries, more and more MAGA pundits are turning their backs on Trump. --

Leading conservative pundit 'ashamed and embarrassed' for voting Trump

Tuesday, amidst news of President Donald Trump’s catastrophic handling of the war on Iran, conservatives are expressing outrage not only about his actions, but about the fact that they voted for him in the first place. While the war has many MAGA supporters angry, one leading voice on the right...

www.alternet.org

I've never heard of any of these minor frauds.
You people are simply pathetic.

 

[dblack]

It's simply dishonest to say both sides are equally bad.

And it's a rhetorical fallacy to lead an argument with a strawman. I didn't say both sides were equally bad. This is always the bullshit you guys jump to though. I guess that's because it's easier than arguing against what I actually said, which was, to recap:

It's dumb to vote for bad candidates on purpose. Period. End of reel. Full stop.