Zone1 LBG no T

[Mr. Friscus]

I've heard of this movement. People in the "lesbian, Gay, Bisexual" camps don't agree with the "Transexual" movement, as in, teaching children to question their biological sex.

I'm sure they've seen the data, as we all should. Suicide rates are nearly 40% amongst trans people, and after transition it appears there's not much of a difference, meaning simply cheering them on isn't working. Meanwhile, in mainstream media trans people are depicted often as exhalted, the most bravest of us all. Yet, they still remain troubled and vulnerable.

This is a mental disorder, much like depression, which many of us, including myself, have dealt with. I would oppose any movement that would encourage me to accept my depression and claim I'm merely a victim of "anti-depression hatred", or whatever it would be called. Depression is bad for humans, just as we can see from statistics believing you're the opposite sex of what you biological are is.

I've always said that if you're an adult, do what you want. But teaching children about trans ideology, that men can mythically become women and vice verca, is religious in its rationale. I'm a Catholic, but I accept that I believe based on faith. Trans folk try to enforce their "faith" of their metaphysics onto others, and it would be the same as me trying to impress my Catholic faith onto mainstream school children, and if they refuse they're some sort of bigot.

It's the Trans movement that's the bigots, and the LBG movement seems to more and more be on board. The two are actually at odd with each other.

 

[MisterBeale]

I have posted this, in a few other places when the transgender/LGBT debate comes up. I really do have empathy for those who are suffering from endocrine disruption and gender development problems. I don't have much tolerance for those who are gloming onto the agenda, and normalizing this pathology though, as a cover for global corporations' sins. IMO, I think global corporations, and giant institutional investment corporations are behind normalization this behavior, for two distinct reasons.

First, it is a way to insidiously break down the basic unit of political power, that being, the family. And second, it avoids facing the pervasive and systemic infiltration of chemicals and pollution that big global mass produced chemicals have pervaded in our lives. From the little research that I have done, jobs like the military, industrial productions, car repair, folks that wear make-up like actors, and any careers that work with chemicals for long extended periods, are at much higher risk.

We need to clean up our environment, and our world. Post haste.


"There are, indeed transgender folks. And when the issue comes up, several members of the forum have posted scientific studies on the issue, which delve into the genetics, at both the DNA level and the hormone/endocrine disruption level.

With that said? When I read these studies, they also state, that the number of population that is inflicted with these various conditions range from one tenth of one percent, to five tenths of one percent. Which means, one to five people out of a thousand, and this, is on the small end, not even full blown expression.. . . . . just small genitals. . . . we aren't even talking the most extreme cases yet at this point.

Now, there is a good case to be made for the corporate pollution of the environment of endocrine disputers causing a lot of this. .. Alex Jones warned about this back a few decades ago. And he turned out to be right. This is a cause for a lot of the frogs "turning gay," and decrease in amphibian populations, and there are many other endocrine disrupting chemicals in the environment. They have banned BPA, but the latest news? A good portion of the population has micro-plastics in their bloodstream. Prospective parents should educate themselves on how to mitigate this risk.

Rather than the right and left being caught up in a culture war. . . we should hold the global corporatations accountable for destroying normal life on the planet.

Researchers found microplastics in human lungs and bloodstreams. Should we be concerned?

While scientists have found microplastics deep in people's lungs and even bloodstreams, experts still say more research is needed to understand the health consequences.

www.nbcnews.com

Shanna Swan: 'Most couples may have to use assisted reproduction by 2045'​

archive.md

".. . You’ve spent more than 20 years examining the effects of hormone disrupting chemicals on reproductive health. Are you now sounding the alarm?
I am directly speaking to this hidden problem people don’t like to talk about, which is their sub-fertility or reproductive problems, and how that is tied to the environment. People are recognising we have a reproductive health crisis, but they say it’s because of delayed childbearing, choice or lifestyle – it can’t be chemical. I want people to recognise it can. I am not saying other factors aren’t involved. But I am saying chemicals play a major causal role. It is difficult to use that word, “cause”, but it’s a body of evidence. We have mechanisms, animal studies, and multiple human studies.

Female fertility declines rapidly after about 35. Isn’t that why so many people are turning to IVF?
It’s not that simple. When a colleague and I looked at the change in impaired fecundity [the ability to have children] we were surprised to see younger women had experienced a bigger increase than older age groups. This suggests that something besides ageing and delayed childbearing is affecting fertility.
Moreover, there’s compelling evidence that the risk of miscarriage has been rising among women of all ages.
Which chemicals are the most worrying for reproductive health and how do they work?
Those that can interfere with or mimic the body’s sex hormones – such as testosterone and oestrogen – because these make reproduction possible. They can make the body think it has enough of a particular hormone and it doesn’t need to make any more, so production goes down.

Sperms' swimming and navigational skills disrupted by common chemicals
Read more
Phthalates, used to make plastic soft and flexible, are of paramount concern. They are in everybody and we are probably primarily exposed through food as we use soft plastic in food manufacture, processing and packaging. They lower testosterone and so have the strongest influences on the male side, for example diminishing sperm count, though they are bad for women, too, shown to decrease libido and increase risk of early puberty, premature ovarian failure, miscarriage and premature birth.
Bisphenol A (BPA), used to harden plastic and found in cash-register receipts and the lining of some canned-food containers, is another. It is oestrogen mimicking and so is a particularly bad actor on the female side, increasing risks of fertility challenges, but likewise it can affect men. Men occupationally exposed to BPA have shown decreased sperm quality, reduced libido and higher rates of erectile dysfunction. Other chemicals of concern include flame retardants and certain pesticides such as atrazine.. . . "

The Everyday Chemicals That Might Be Leading Us to Our Extinction (Published 2021)

In “Count Down,” Shanna Swan tells a story of declining sperm count, rising infertility and the possible extinction of the human species.

www.nytimes.com

Top Reproductive Epidemiologist, Joins the Mount Sinai Children’s Environmental Health Center | Mount Sinai - New York

www.mountsinai.org

Joe Rogan Stunned by Guest: 'This Should Scare the S*** Out of People'

Environmental and reproductive epidemiologist Dr. Shanna Swan shared her research on how plastics and chemicals are threatening sperm counts and could create a fertility crisis.

heavy.com

Gender Fluidity and Hormone Disruptors

The modern human environment is replete with substances that mimic sex hormones. Could these chemicals play a role in contemporary gender fluidity?

www.psychologytoday.com

". . . One does not have to look very far to realize that there has been a global increase in gender dysphoria in children. In recent years, parents have been caught publicly parading their child’s “transformation” from one gender to another. Last year, the UK published statistics that noted a more than ten-fold increase in children being referred for treatment for gender identity issues. This month, the National Geographic high-lighted the story of a 9-year boy who has been living as a girl.

Undoubtedly, there are many causes for the increase. It’s been a generation or two since parents believed they could teach their girls to be girls and their boys to be boys. Today, pediatricians and parents are taught to be hypersensitive about toddlers’ changing ideas on gender. Schools across the western world are teaching children that gender is a choice. Universities and colleges have asked students to choose a pronoun to match their identity. Some cities are punishing people who refuse to participate in this gender confusion mania. With this normalization and glorification of gender dysphoria, there is no wonder children are confused. But has anyone asked about environmental factors?

Chemicals from plastics, household products, pesticides, herbicides and birth control abound in the environment. All of them are known endocrine disruptors.

The endocrine system in humans and animals consists of hormones and glands that regulate every bodily function. It plays a role in all phases of development, metabolism, and behavior.

Plastics decompose and contaminate soil and water. Birth control contaminates water supplies. Pesticides are regularly sprayed in and around homes, businesses, and schools. Pesticides and herbicides are sprayed on every commercial crop. All of them contaminate food, water, and soil.. . . . "

Sexual Identity and Prenatal Endocrine Disruptors? –

fiveseasonsmedicine.com

9 Ways to Avoid Hormone-Disrupting Chemicals

Endocrine disruptors like BPA and phthalates lurk in everything from cleaning products to fragrances.

www.nrdc.org

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The good news is, they are already aware of some of this, and have started the process. They have banned BPA, PFAS, and starting to clean up PFAS, and are now "concerned," about the affects of "micro-plastics," though they do not let on what those might really be. . .

If you look into that, and really dig, the horror starts to hit you, square in the eyes.

 

[Papageorgio]

If you are a male and feel you are a female, you are embraced. If you are a male and feel like you are a royal king, you are called crazy. I met a man that actually thought he was Johnny Cash and was terribly upset when people didn’t address him as Johnny. I know a man that has no Indian in his background and thought he was of Indian ancestry, just like Elizabeth Warren. I know alcoholics are looked down on because they have an actual hereditary disease and people won’t put up with their behavior. But if you are a man that gets off wearing womens clothes, that’s acceptable.

What am I missing?

 

[fncceo]

LBG no T​

Now I have to change my personalize license plate.

 

[JoeB131]

I've heard of this movement. People in the "lesbian, Gay, Bisexual" camps don't agree with the "Transexual" movement, as in, teaching children to question their biological sex.

I'm sure they've seen the data, as we all should. Suicide rates are nearly 40% amongst trans people, and after transition it appears there's not much of a difference, meaning simply cheering them on isn't working. Meanwhile, in mainstream media trans people are depicted often as exhalted, the most bravest of us all. Yet, they still remain troubled and vulnerable.

The suicide rate among trans people is so high because of bigots like you.

This is a mental disorder, much like depression, which many of us, including myself, have dealt with. I would oppose any movement that would encourage me to accept my depression and claim I'm merely a victim of "anti-depression hatred", or whatever it would be called. Depression is bad for humans, just as we can see from statistics believing you're the opposite sex of what you biological are is.

Okay, let's look at this ham-fisted comparison. No one would tell you to treat your depression by "Cheering up" or "don't be such a Debbie Downer". If your condition was severe enough, you would get counselling and maybe medication to treat it. You could even legitimately claim it as a disability and get special considerations at the workplace. Not to mention all these nitwits who call their dogs "Emotional support animals" and bring the filthy beasts into restaurants where I am trying to eat.

So let's grant that gender dysphoria is a mental condition. We wouldn't treat it by telling people to "man up". We would find treatments, and the treatment that we have found works is to let the person live as the gender of their choice.

Now, there IS a legitimate debate to be had on what roles teachers should play.

Is LGBTQ being over diagnosed, like ADHD is (IMHO). Or is it a condition like left-handedness, where one you accept it, it becomes more mainstream.

You see, around the turn of the last century, if little Timmy or Sally came to school and used their left hand, the teachers would force them to use their right hand. But around the 1950's, they realized that was probably a bad idea, the percent of southpaws increased to 12%, and that's where it's stayed ever since.

I've always said that if you're an adult, do what you want. But teaching children about trans ideology, that men can mythically become women and vice verca, is religious in its rationale. I'm a Catholic, but I accept that I believe based on faith. Trans folk try to enforce their "faith" of their metaphysics onto others, and it would be the same as me trying to impress my Catholic faith onto mainstream school children, and if they refuse they're some sort of bigot.

Okay, first and foremost, your Church spent centuries burning heretics, gays, witches, infidels, sexually abusing children, starting religious wars, and topping it all off with collaborating with the NAZIS. What do you think the Catholic School system is about if it isn't imposing Catholicism on unsuspecting children? I know that my childhood would have been MUCH happier if I didn't have to deal with the priests and the nuns, who were some messed up individuals.

I should also point out that this country has a LONG history of anti-Catholic bigotry. The kind Catholics have rightly complained about and have gotten laws to protect their rights. Or do you think it's a coincidence we've only had two Catholic Presidents in our entire history?

It's the Trans movement that's the bigots, and the LBG movement seems to more and more be on board. The two are actually at odd with each other.

No, they really aren't. I mean, you probably have some self-hating gays who are... but not much more than that.

 

[fncceo]

The suicide rate among trans people is so high because of bigots like you.

I deal with a lot of suicides and attempted suicides in my job. The LGBT community is over-represented in that group, but the Transgender group is over-represented in that group.

Part of the reason is the premise behind gender re-assignment.

If you're told, or have come to believe, that you're unhappy because of specific reason and if you change what you believe is making you unhappy, you will suddenly become happy, that is a sure recipe for a massive disappointment.

It doesn't matter if the life-changing solution you seek is to find the perfect job, get married, have a child, or have sex reassignment, putting all of your happiness eggs into a single basket is going to lead to profound unhappiness.

If you are profoundly unhappy with your currently life, then the reason probably stems from a number of very different influences. To become a happy, well-balanced person, you have to be self-aware enough to recognize all your sources of unhappiness and deal with them equally.

There is no quick-fix to anything, particularly unhappiness.

 

[JoeB131]

I deal with a lot of suicides and attempted suicides in my job. The LGBT community is over-represented in that group, but the Transgender group is over-represented in that group.

Part of the reason is the premise behind gender re-assignment.

If you're told, or have come to believe, that you're unhappy because of specific reason and if you change what you believe is making you unhappy, you will suddenly become happy, that is a sure recipe for a massive disappointment.

It doesn't matter if they life-changing solution you seek is to find the perfect job, get married, or have a child, or have sex reassignment, putting all of your happiness eggs into a single basket is going to lead to profound unhappiness.

If you are profoundly unhappy with your currently life, then the reason probably stems from a number of very different influences. To become a happy, well-balanced person, you have to be self-aware enough to recognize all your sources of unhappiness and deal with them equally.

There is no quick-fix to anything, particularly unhappiness.

I don't disagree with any of that..

That said, is a large part of the unhappiness by trans people due to the bigotry they face on a daily basis? I would say, yes.

 

[Seymour Flops]

High suicide rate for homosexuals used to put homosexuality in the category of mental disorder. There is some truth in the claim that the suicide rate is caused by the stigma that society once put and still puts to some degree on homosexuality.

I think that is partially true for transgenders, but I also believe that this kind of body-mind conflict would lead to a high suicide rate no matter how accepting we are. I see a huge difference in a person whose brain is obviously wired differently in a way that convinces them that they are "in the wrong body," and a child who questions their sexuality, as all children do.

I oppose in the strongest term possible the idea of transgender activists sexualizing children so that they can help them become transgender. It is bizarre. I can see no motivation at all for doing that and/or supporting that other than a desire that children be sexualized in order to make them easier to abuse sexually. The fact that they make it official policy to hide what they are doing from parents proves their nefarious intent.

But letting transgender adults be transgender is my libertarian take. I see an obvious dude who is obviously trying to present as female, I'll call him "she," and "ma'am." Cost me nothing to do that. In fact I have begun to use feminine pronouns and honorifics with all liberals, on the grounds that MTF trans folk are much more offended by being called "Sir," than FTM trannies are at being called "ma'am."

If any transgender person who is not a groomer wants to correct me on that, I'm all ears.

I wish the counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists, and surgeons in the transgender industry were less motivated by money, but with Obamacare paying for sex reassignment on the flimsiest of indications, the money will be there for someone. If the medical community will not police itself, I don't know how non-medical lawmakers can.

 

[there4eyeM]

The majority of the world (women) is victimized, repressed and exploited virtually everywhere on the planet and we are supposed to move heaven and earth due to elevated suicide rates in 0.6% of the population.
"Priorities" appears to be yet another word relegated to irrelevance.

 

[JoeMoma]

High suicide rate for homosexuals used to put homosexuality in the category of mental disorder. There is some truth in the claim that the suicide rate is caused by the stigma that society once put and still puts to some degree on homosexuality.

There may be some truth that the suicide rate is due to the stigma from society. If so, the suicide rate should not be high in "woke" areas of our country like the cities of California where it has become cool to be trans.

 

[sparky]

If you look into that, and really dig, the horror starts to hit you, square in the eyes.

~S~

 

[TNHarley]

I have a good friend that is a lesbian. She said the trannies just took over their movement. She says they are not the same and i agree.

 

[Couchpotato]

The suicide rate among trans people is so high because of bigots like you.

Their suicide rates are higher than among Jews in Nazi Germany. Even in the concentration camps. Are we to believe that Trans people are killing themselves at this rate solely because someone made fun of them or doesnt believe they dont have a mental disorder? In what fantasy world is living in the US as a Trans person worse than being a Jew in Nazi concentration camp?

Acting like they dont have something wrong going on in their brains isnt helping. In fact it's likely hurting these people.

 

[TNHarley]

Acting like they dont have something wrong going on in their brains isnt helping. In fact it's likely hurting these people.

I agree. They need love and support. They need reality. Not medicine and cutting off body parts.

 

[Papageorgio]

Happiness comes from within and learning to accept and deal with your own self esteem. Changing one’s appearance may give you a temporary feeling of happiness however it is superficial. Learn yourself and working on your internal happiness and accepting who you are and work from the inside will bring a person real happiness.

The key is turn the focus off yourself and help others, put others first, give of yourself, work on yourself worth, then your happiness and self esteem will grow. It is not easy, it isnt a quick fix but focusing on what you dislike about yourself isn’t working.

 

[JoeMoma]

Not medicine and cutting off body parts.

Not the kind of medicine that is used now. If there is some sort of chemical imbalance in the brain that can be corrected (so they are not trans), that would be great. I don't know that such medicine exist at this time.

 

[TNHarley]

Not the kind of medicine that is used now. If there is some sort of chemical imbalance in the brain that can be corrected (so they are not trans), that would be great. I don't know that such medicine exist at this time.

I was referring to hormones and things. I would totally defend medicine for chemical imbalance.

 

[Riff Raff]

I've heard of this movement. People in the "lesbian, Gay, Bisexual" camps don't agree with the "Transexual" movement, as in, teaching children to question their biological sex.

I'm sure they've seen the data, as we all should. Suicide rates are nearly 40% amongst trans people, and after transition it appears there's not much of a difference, meaning simply cheering them on isn't working. Meanwhile, in mainstream media trans people are depicted often as exhalted, the most bravest of us all. Yet, they still remain troubled and vulnerable.

This is a mental disorder, much like depression, which many of us, including myself, have dealt with. I would oppose any movement that would encourage me to accept my depression and claim I'm merely a victim of "anti-depression hatred", or whatever it would be called. Depression is bad for humans, just as we can see from statistics believing you're the opposite sex of what you biological are is.

I've always said that if you're an adult, do what you want. But teaching children about trans ideology, that men can mythically become women and vice verca, is religious in its rationale. I'm a Catholic, but I accept that I believe based on faith. Trans folk try to enforce their "faith" of their metaphysics onto others, and it would be the same as me trying to impress my Catholic faith onto mainstream school children, and if they refuse they're some sort of bigot.

It's the Trans movement that's the bigots, and the LBG movement seems to more and more be on board. The two are actually at odd with each other.

LGBTQ dropped the Q, now the T. B's up next. Lefties always purge.

 

[martybegan]

I don't disagree with any of that..

That said, is a large part of the unhappiness by trans people due to the bigotry they face on a daily basis? I would say, yes.

The large part is that all they can get is a crude copy of what they actually want.

They can only imitate what they think they are, not become what they think they are.

Would you have sex with a post-op trans-sexual?

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

They’re all as relevant as booger-eaters so leave everyone else out of it out of courtesy and manners.