Lawyers mock Trump: 'Too busy to be honest' about Trump U

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Lawyers mock Trump: 'Too busy to be honest' about Trump U

Donald Trump is “too busy to be honest” the plaintiff’s lawyers write in a new motion in federal court in San Diego, characterizing the presidential candidate’s legal papers as an argument out of “Bizarro World.”

:deal:The 26-page motion, filed with U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, is filled with ridicule for what it describes as Trump’s “integrity infirmities.”

It was filed in response to a motion by Trump’s lawyers seeking to have the case dismissed. The defense team minimizes some of the real estate tycoon’s claims about the school as “classic examples of sales puffery everywhere” that were not intended to be “interpreted literally.”

The dueling motions come just as the lawsuits against Trump University and Trump’s own attacks on the judge have erupted as a major issue in the presidential campaign. Video excerpts of Trump’s depositions in two of the cases were filed with Curiel this week and are due to be publicly released shortly, likely to become fodder for the media and, possibly, the Clinton campaign.

The way Curiel rules on the latest motions will be closely watched, as Trump has proclaimed that the judge, whose parents were Mexican, has been “horribly unfair” to him. Curiel has already set a trial date of Nov. 28, three weeks after the presidential election, for a related suit by former students of Trump University who claim they were defrauded out of tens of thousands of dollars in tuition fees. The motions this week are in a class-action suit filed under the civil provisions of the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organization law, commonly known as RICO, alleging that Trump himself engaged in a pattern of “racketeering activities. If successful, it would entitle the plaintiffs to treble damages — potentially millions of dollars out of Trump’s own pocket.

The new motion by the plaintiffs’ lawyers lays out their case that the now defunct Trump University was “one big fraud.” It cites Trump’s claims that he “handpicked” the instructors who would teach students, who had paid tens of thousands of dollars for seminars and “mentoring,” his “master strategies” for profiting in the real estate market.

“Handpicking everyone? Trump handpicked no one,” the plaintiff’s lawyers write, contrasting Trump’s own marketing videos for the school and his later deposition in the case. “He could not pick one out of a lineup or come up with a single name. … In addition to not knowing who the instructors were, he had no idea what they were telling the students.”

The motion by lawyers for Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, one of the country’s most prominent class-action law firms, was filed in response to an earlier motion by Trump’s own lawyers, unsealed this week, asking that the case against Trump by dismissed on “summary judgment” because it “it epitomizes the pervasive abuse of civil RICO” — a law originally aimed at mobsters, not legitimate commercial businesses, they argue.

The plaintiffs have filed their lawsuit against Trump under the civil RICO laws “in an effort to extract punitive money awards and exert undue leverage for settlement,” Trump’s lawyers write in their brief. “Indeed, if this case is allowed to proceed, it would represent an unprecedented and unprincipled expansion of civil RICO and transform virtually every alleged violation of consumer protection laws into a civil RICO claim and subject owners, officers, directors, and others to personal liability for treble damages.”

The motion by Trump’s lawyers, led by renowned civil litigator Daniel Petrocelli, also seeks to minimize Trump’s role in the school. While it was named for him and he owned 92 percent of it — personally profiting to the tune of $5 million, according to another lawsuit filed by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman — Trump’s role in its operations were “necessarily limited” because of his responsibilities as president and chief executive officer of the Trump Organization, “a global enterprise of real estate holdings, hotels, golf courses, interests in entertainment and talent management, among others.”

As evidence, the lawyers submitted a copy of Trump’s financial disclosure form filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Trump “delegated management and operational control” of the school to Michael Sexton, its president, the lawyers write, and he relied on its “management team to carry out the business plan for [Trump University], to protect the Trump ‘Brand,” and to comply with the law,” the lawyers write.

It is these claims, drawn from the video deposition, that will be made public soon and that the plaintiffs seek to mock in the hard-hitting opening of their brief.
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“Trump denies operating and managing the ‘fraudulent marketing scheme’ alleged here because he only starred in the marketing materials; signed the marketing materials; corrected the marketing materials; and approved the marketing materials. And therefore, he deserves summary judgment….

“Trump wrote his motion for summary judgment for a District Court in Bizarro World,” the plaintiffs write. “In this District Court, however, it is wholly without merit.”

Lawyers mock Trump: 'Too busy to be honest' about Trump U

LOL!!! He'll STILL get votes because the poorly educated loves Drumpf!

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Someone explain to me why a man who wants us to elect him President on the basis of his "vast business experience" - and whose major business acumen appears to be in the area of marketing, branding, and hyping himself - doesn't know what they teach first year advertising and marketing students: you cannot lie in advertising. You can "puffery" all you like, but it has to be at least technically true.
 
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Someone explain to me why a man who wants us to elect him President on the basis of his "vast business experience" - and whose major business acumen appears to be in the area of marketing, branding, and hyping himself - doesn't know what they teach first year advertising and marketing students: you cannot lie in advertising. You can "puffery" all you like, but it has to be at least technically true.

Good grief! Trump's a very successful businessman. Not all of his enterprises have been successful, but most have. And here you are basically calling him a fool. Unreal.
In every enterprise one is going to find unhappy customers. That's right across the board.

It's to be expected.
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

Even for a Trumpette, that's insane. The first lawsuit against Trump U was filed in 2010, the second and third in 2013, long before Trump even announced his candidacy, let alone before he became Hillary Clinton's primary opponent. If those people were so prescient they knew they'd need a lawsuit to derail his candidacy all the way back in 2010, don't you think they'd have been prescient enough to know he was scamming them in the first place?
 
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Someone explain to me why a man who wants us to elect him President on the basis of his "vast business experience" - and whose major business acumen appears to be in the area of marketing, branding, and hyping himself - doesn't know what they teach first year advertising and marketing students: you cannot lie in advertising. You can "puffery" all you like, but it has to be at least technically true.

Good grief! Trump's a very successful businessman. Not all of his enterprises have been successful, but most have. And here you are basically calling him a fool. Unreal.
In every enterprise one is going to find unhappy customers. That's right across the board.

It's to be expected.

I am actually calling him a lying con artist.

And no, it's NOT expected for "every enterprise" to be sued for fraud. Most of them know better than to make demonstrably false claims in their advertisements.
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

sure it is sweety. & the 'mexican' judge is in on it. it's a conspiracy I tell ya! a CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :ack-1:

This sounds familiar. Where have I heard it before? Oh, right. Hillary Clinton and the "vast right wing conspiracy" that made her husband keep fucking around on her.

See, I told you the Trumpettes were clones of the Clintonistas.
 
Lawyers mock Trump: 'Too busy to be honest' about Trump U

Donald Trump is “too busy to be honest” the plaintiff’s lawyers write in a new motion in federal court in San Diego, characterizing the presidential candidate’s legal papers as an argument out of “Bizarro World.”

:deal:The 26-page motion, filed with U.S. District Judge Gonzalo Curiel, is filled with ridicule for what it describes as Trump’s “integrity infirmities.”

It was filed in response to a motion by Trump’s lawyers seeking to have the case dismissed. The defense team minimizes some of the real estate tycoon’s claims about the school as “classic examples of sales puffery everywhere” that were not intended to be “interpreted literally.”

The dueling motions come just as the lawsuits against Trump University and Trump’s own attacks on the judge have erupted as a major issue in the presidential campaign. Video excerpts of Trump’s depositions in two of the cases were filed with Curiel this week and are due to be publicly released shortly, likely to become fodder for the media and, possibly, the Clinton campaign.

The way Curiel rules on the latest motions will be closely watched, as Trump has proclaimed that the judge, whose parents were Mexican, has been “horribly unfair” to him. Curiel has already set a trial date of Nov. 28, three weeks after the presidential election, for a related suit by former students of Trump University who claim they were defrauded out of tens of thousands of dollars in tuition fees. The motions this week are in a class-action suit filed under the civil provisions of the Racketeer-Influenced and Corrupt Organization law, commonly known as RICO, alleging that Trump himself engaged in a pattern of “racketeering activities. If successful, it would entitle the plaintiffs to treble damages — potentially millions of dollars out of Trump’s own pocket.

The new motion by the plaintiffs’ lawyers lays out their case that the now defunct Trump University was “one big fraud.” It cites Trump’s claims that he “handpicked” the instructors who would teach students, who had paid tens of thousands of dollars for seminars and “mentoring,” his “master strategies” for profiting in the real estate market.

“Handpicking everyone? Trump handpicked no one,” the plaintiff’s lawyers write, contrasting Trump’s own marketing videos for the school and his later deposition in the case. “He could not pick one out of a lineup or come up with a single name. … In addition to not knowing who the instructors were, he had no idea what they were telling the students.”

The motion by lawyers for Robbins Geller Rudman & Dowd, one of the country’s most prominent class-action law firms, was filed in response to an earlier motion by Trump’s own lawyers, unsealed this week, asking that the case against Trump by dismissed on “summary judgment” because it “it epitomizes the pervasive abuse of civil RICO” — a law originally aimed at mobsters, not legitimate commercial businesses, they argue.

The plaintiffs have filed their lawsuit against Trump under the civil RICO laws “in an effort to extract punitive money awards and exert undue leverage for settlement,” Trump’s lawyers write in their brief. “Indeed, if this case is allowed to proceed, it would represent an unprecedented and unprincipled expansion of civil RICO and transform virtually every alleged violation of consumer protection laws into a civil RICO claim and subject owners, officers, directors, and others to personal liability for treble damages.”

The motion by Trump’s lawyers, led by renowned civil litigator Daniel Petrocelli, also seeks to minimize Trump’s role in the school. While it was named for him and he owned 92 percent of it — personally profiting to the tune of $5 million, according to another lawsuit filed by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman — Trump’s role in its operations were “necessarily limited” because of his responsibilities as president and chief executive officer of the Trump Organization, “a global enterprise of real estate holdings, hotels, golf courses, interests in entertainment and talent management, among others.”

As evidence, the lawyers submitted a copy of Trump’s financial disclosure form filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Trump “delegated management and operational control” of the school to Michael Sexton, its president, the lawyers write, and he relied on its “management team to carry out the business plan for [Trump University], to protect the Trump ‘Brand,” and to comply with the law,” the lawyers write.

It is these claims, drawn from the video deposition, that will be made public soon and that the plaintiffs seek to mock in the hard-hitting opening of their brief.
lxT83NA.gif

“Trump denies operating and managing the ‘fraudulent marketing scheme’ alleged here because he only starred in the marketing materials; signed the marketing materials; corrected the marketing materials; and approved the marketing materials. And therefore, he deserves summary judgment….

“Trump wrote his motion for summary judgment for a District Court in Bizarro World,” the plaintiffs write. “In this District Court, however, it is wholly without merit.”

Lawyers mock Trump: 'Too busy to be honest' about Trump U

LOL!!! He'll STILL get votes because the poorly educated loves Drumpf!

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Can you say conflict of interest?


Can you say champerty and maintenance?



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Law Firm Behind Trump University Lawsuit Gave Big Money to the Clintons
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

That's it. These plaintiffs filed suit years ago, in anticipation of Trump running for President. In fact, they hired the same lawyer who the Obama family used to insert Barry's birth announcement in that Honolulu newspaper just in case baby Kenya ever wanted to run for President of the United States.
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

Even for a Trumpette, that's insane. The first lawsuit against Trump U was filed in 2010, the second and third in 2013, long before Trump even announced his candidacy, let alone before he became Hillary Clinton's primary opponent. If those people were so prescient they knew they'd need a lawsuit to derail his candidacy all the way back in 2010, don't you think they'd have been prescient enough to know he was scamming them in the first place?

It has dragged out this long but Judge Curiel is biased big time and the two law firms for the plaintiffs gave close to a million dollars to the Clintons. Oh and those law firms are pissed off because they wanted the lawsuit to proceed right before the convention.

Would have been great timing right?

It's not a conspiracy theory. This shit is playing out in real time.
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

That's it. These plaintiffs filed suit years ago, in anticipation of Trump running for President. In fact, they hired the same lawyer who the Obama family used to insert Barry's birth announcement in that Honolulu newspaper just in case baby Kenya ever wanted to run for President of the United States.

They are using the lawsuit now as a weapon. Deal with it. Judge Curiel should recuse himself .
 
LOL Wouldn't matter now if the judge did recuse himself. Trump will have this around his neck for the whole of the campaign. And many other deals where he lent his name out for money, and lied about his involvement. The man is a real bastard, and only cares about the enrichment of Trump.
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

That's it. These plaintiffs filed suit years ago, in anticipation of Trump running for President. In fact, they hired the same lawyer who the Obama family used to insert Barry's birth announcement in that Honolulu newspaper just in case baby Kenya ever wanted to run for President of the United States.


Dingle berry

Please identify any parent that has successfully sued the public school system because after 12 years Johnny can not fucking read?

Why is Donald Trump being subjected to a different standard?

Complain Against Trump University
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

That's it. These plaintiffs filed suit years ago, in anticipation of Trump running for President. In fact, they hired the same lawyer who the Obama family used to insert Barry's birth announcement in that Honolulu newspaper just in case baby Kenya ever wanted to run for President of the United States.


Dingle berry

Please identify any parent that has successfully sued the public school system because after 12 years Johnny can not fucking read?

Why is Donald Trump being subjected to a different standard?

Complain Against Trump University

:booze:
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

That's it. These plaintiffs filed suit years ago, in anticipation of Trump running for President. In fact, they hired the same lawyer who the Obama family used to insert Barry's birth announcement in that Honolulu newspaper just in case baby Kenya ever wanted to run for President of the United States.


Dingle berry

Please identify any parent that has successfully sued the public school system because after 12 years Johnny can not fucking read?

Why is Donald Trump being subjected to a different standard?

Complain Against Trump University

:booze:


Dingle berry

Please identify any parent that has successfully sued the public school system because after 12 years Johnny can not fucking read?

Why is Donald Trump being subjected to a different standard?

Complain Against Trump University
 
The mentality of Attorneys is well laid out in most LSAT Introductions...
The purpose of the Legal System is to outsmart the opponent.
 
This is such an obvious political hit job using the judiciary for Clinton.

That's it. These plaintiffs filed suit years ago, in anticipation of Trump running for President. In fact, they hired the same lawyer who the Obama family used to insert Barry's birth announcement in that Honolulu newspaper just in case baby Kenya ever wanted to run for President of the United States.


Dingle berry

Please identify any parent that has successfully sued the public school system because after 12 years Johnny can not fucking read?

Why is Donald Trump being subjected to a different standard?

Complain Against Trump University

:booze:
It's a fact.
 

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