Latest Ukrainian Peace Plan From the US...Ukraine Surrenders, NATO Cannot Expand; Russia Gives Up Nothing.

[Toddsterpatriot]

How is it you’re so dumb?

Poor innocent Russia, eh comrade?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Ukraine proved to be terrible stewards of the Russian National entrusted to them. They bombed them, send in Nazis to kill them, tried to end their religion. They voted OVERWHELMINGLY to rejoin Russia. Putin exercised tremendous restraint in dealing with the situation

Poor Russians should have moved to Russia. The largest country in the world.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Remember when NATO promised and pinky swore to Russia that we would NEVER expand eastward?

NATO promised the Soviet Union they wouldn't expand?

I don't believe you.

 

[Marchimedes]

AP Reporting:

You said that out loud, the first utterance of your thread OP?

What's next? Believetheleft.com?

 

[Marchimedes]

NATO promised the Soviet Union they wouldn't expand?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

There is no such thing as "endless slaughter". This slaughter will be finished when all Ukronazies are dead or left Ukraine.

Russia is afraid of a few dozen "Nazis"? LOL!

 

[marvin martian]

Biden gave Putin the go ahead for the invasion

Yup. They needed a good cover to keep the money laundering and human trafficking going. The Biden family business.

 

[gipper]

We've had this discussion. Putin is 72, he isn't stupid, he knows no one wins a nuclear war.

It’s very possible the Zionist Neocons running DC don’t know that and if they do, they may not care.

 

[gipper]

NATO promised the Soviet Union they wouldn't expand?

I don't believe you.

You might be the most ignorant poster on this forum. Your delusions force you into binary thinking on every issue and prevents intelligent discourse.

 

[Zavulon]

Russia is afraid of a few dozen "Nazis"? LOL!

Russia doesn't think that there are few dozen "Nazies" (in Russian understanding of the word). More like few million. Say nothing that Russia see significant part of European elites as Nazies, too. And the main problem we are going to discuss is rolling back of NATO military infrastructure back to 1997 borders.

 

[Zavulon]

Poor Russians should have moved to Russia. The largest country in the world.

No. Poor Ukrainian Nazies should have moved to Argentina and Canada. They love Nazies.

 

[Independent thinker]

AP Reporting:

Ukraine would cede territory to Russia in draft of Trump peace plan obtained by AP

President Donald Trump’s plan for ending the war in Ukraine would cede territory to Russia and limit the size of Kyiv’s military, according to a draft proposal obtained by The Associated Press.

apnews.com

Some highlights (or lowlights) from the article:

• For example, the proposal would not only bar Ukraine from joining NATO but would also prevent the alliance’s future expansion. Such a step would be a significant victory for Moscow, which views NATO as a threat.
• Putin would also gain ground he has been unable to win on the battlefield. Under the draft, Moscow would hold all the eastern Donbas region, even though approximately 14% still remains in Ukrainian hands. Ukraine’s military, currently at roughly 880,000 troops, would be reduced to 600,000.
• Under the proposal, Russia would commit to making no future attacks, something the White House views as a concession.
• Russia would also be allowed to keep half of the power generated by Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, Zaporizhzhia, which it captured from Ukraine early during the war.

There seems to be little in it for Ukraine or the US. One has to wonder on what planet such a plan ever saw the light of day.

The thing is, you have no alternative. If things keep on going the way they have been, even under Biden, there will eventually be NO Ukraine left at all.

 

[Nostra]

Putin is giving up nothing and gaining territory without further fighting

Ukraine realizes that Russia never complied with its promises to respect borders

Trump is the new Neville Chamberlain

Will someone throw this troll a bone.

 

[rightwinger]

Will someone throw this troll a bone.

?

 

[Crepitus]

AP Reporting:

Ukraine would cede territory to Russia in draft of Trump peace plan obtained by AP

President Donald Trump’s plan for ending the war in Ukraine would cede territory to Russia and limit the size of Kyiv’s military, according to a draft proposal obtained by The Associated Press.

apnews.com

Some highlights (or lowlights) from the article:

• For example, the proposal would not only bar Ukraine from joining NATO but would also prevent the alliance’s future expansion. Such a step would be a significant victory for Moscow, which views NATO as a threat.
• Putin would also gain ground he has been unable to win on the battlefield. Under the draft, Moscow would hold all the eastern Donbas region, even though approximately 14% still remains in Ukrainian hands. Ukraine’s military, currently at roughly 880,000 troops, would be reduced to 600,000.
• Under the proposal, Russia would commit to making no future attacks, something the White House views as a concession.
• Russia would also be allowed to keep half of the power generated by Europe’s largest nuclear power plant, Zaporizhzhia, which it captured from Ukraine early during the war.

There seems to be little in it for Ukraine or the US. One has to wonder on what planet such a plan ever saw the light of day.

And people still try to claim tRump isn't a Russian asset...

 

[Crepitus]

Good. End the killing, destruction and suffering today. No matter the terms.

You need to learn even in your advanced stage of life, never support war even when your radical partisanship tells you otherwise.

"No matter the terms"?

Where would we be today if the founding fathers had that attitude?

 

[Crepitus]

That’s not a good enough reason to continue the war. Think!

They aren't gonna stop.

 

[Crepitus]

Wow...so the slaughter of innocents is just a sad footnote to this terrible deal?

So he wants the war to stop to stop the killing but the killing that happens after the war is no big deal?

Is that what this whack-job is saying?

 

[Ringo]

 

[gipper]

They aren't gonna stop.

Yeah that Domino Theory bull shit went out the window in the 70s, but apparently the globalist elite can still dupe dummies with it today.

They really love dummies.