Kyle Rittenhouse trial...already disproving SO MANY LIES from the left

[Faun]

The jury was told why he was there. He worked in Kenosha. After work he was with friends cleaning graffiti when they were asked to look in on a business.

The owner of said business testified under oath he did not ask them to "look in on" his business.

 

[Faun]

You keep saying that, but it's pure horseshit. Rittenhouse had every right to be there. He had just as much right to be there as any of those scum he blew away.

You also made an unproven claim. How do you know he doesn't have any training?

He didn't have a right to be there armed.

 

[Coyote]

The fact that Rosenbaum has no one but a bunch of political hacks defending him also speaks volumes...

No family members, foster parents or adoptive parents to say anything to anyone about how sad they are that he is dead...

He was a child rapist...

Unless you support extra judicial killings…it doesn’t matter what he was. He was convicted, served time, and was released. He still has the same basic rights as you or I. Being unsavory is not a license to kill.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The owner of said business testified under oath he did not ask them to "look in on" his business.

No. He said he did not ask them to protect his business. It is clear that you do not have a nodding acquaintance with the facts presented at trial. You will just have to be surprised.

 

[eagle1462010]

Unless you support extra judicial killings…it doesn’t matter what he was. He was convicted, served time, and was released. He still has the same basic rights as you or I. Being unsavory is not a license to kill.

Perhaps the mental hospital let him go too early..........hmmmm..

Since the Mental one really started it........maybe this would have never happened.

 

[jc456]

Unless you support extra judicial killings…it doesn’t matter what he was. He was convicted, served time, and was released. He still has the same basic rights as you or I. Being unsavory is not a license to kill.

Why do you supposed he ambushed Kyle?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You keep saying that, but it's pure horseshit. Rittenhouse had every right to be there. He had just as much right to be there as any of those scum he blew away.

You also made an unproven claim. How do you know he doesn't have any training?

Because of his age. You can't be an EMT (the most minimum training) until the age of 18.

He had a right to be there but not with a gun. That changes everything. I have different standards I have to use when I'm in public without my gun as I do with my gun. When you bring a firearm into a violent situation you lose your right to self-defense if you use that firearm. It doesn't matter if one person attacks you or 50.

If I'm in a bar and some drunk takes a swing at me, I swing back and knock him out, I'm covered under our self-defense law. Now if I pick him up off the floor and start beating his head into the corner of the bar, I'm no longer covered under self-defense. That got thrown out the window when I moved to felonious assault.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What Kyle did or did not do prior to the attack has no bearing on this case.

All that matters is if it was self defense or not when he was attacked.

We'll see but I don't think it's going to turn out that way unless the prosecutor is trying to throw the case for some reason.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

But it goes to frame of mind why the homeless pedophile was behaving like he was! Can you say nut job? Threatened Kyle

That's an assumption and not a fact. It doesn't matter why he attacked as it has no relevance in the case. He attacked and got shot. That's the only two things the jury is allowed to hear.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

That does not mean that his intent was not still to give medical aid.

What was he going to do, put band-aids on people?

 

[ColonelAngus]

The left wing communist cucks are hysterical on this trial.

Trump is not the defendant, you fools.

The video and drone footage is clear as fucking day.

How is it better for you if Kyle goes to prison? Is he going to kill YOU if he is acquitted?

 

[Flash]

We'll see but I don't think it's going to turn out that way unless the prosecutor is trying to throw the case for some reason.

Kyle's friends that testified during the Prosecution last week have said nothing to really discredit him. So far the Prosecution has done a terrible job.

If the jury does it job properly and the Defense pushes the concept of self defense then Kyle has a real chance to walk.

Of course in these trials it is always hard to predict. Remember the jury letting Casey Anthony get away with killing her little child? How about OJ?

 

[Coyote]

Perhaps the mental hospital let him go too early..........hmmmm..

Since the Mental one really started it........maybe this would have never happened.

No one else felt he was a real threat. Only Kyle.

 

[eagle1462010]

No one else felt he was a real threat. Only Kyle.

LOL. Like running around saying he was gonna kill everyone........lmao

The mental ward should have not released him.

 

[eagle1462010]

Witness at Rittenhouse trial: Kenosha victim was belligerent but no threat

Kyle Rittenhouse, now 18, is charged with shooting three men, two of them fatally, in the summer of 2020.

www.wdtv.com

The judge allowed the defense to elicit testimony about Rosenbaum’s mental illness because prosecutors brought up mention of medication. Had prosecutors not touched on the topic, it is unlikely the judge would have let the defense bring it up.

On the day he was killed, Rosenbaum had been released from a Milwaukee hospital. The jury was told that much, but not why he had been admitted — after a suicide attempt.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You should look up the laws then.

Wisconsin Legislature: 939.48

docs.legis.wisconsin.gov

From what I have read Rittenhouse was justified in his use of force.

Thanks for the link but my old eyes couldn't really read it, and my puter won't blow it up to the size I need. I wanted to keep up with the frequency of posts here so I didn't have time to look it up before. But now I do and took your advice about looking up the law. This is from the web page of an attorney.

f a person has been charged with assault or homicide in Wisconsin, one of the most common defenses which may apply to violent crimes is self-defense. In general, the use of deadly or non-deadly force was justified because they were defending themselves or another individual.

Deadly force can only be used if a person reasonably believes that such force is required to avoid death or great bodily harm. While Wisconsin doesn’t impose a duty to retreat, juries are still allowed to consider whether a defendant had an opportunity to retreat to determine whether or not it was necessary to use deadly force in self-defense.

However, if an individual provokes a confrontation, he/she has a duty to retreat. Self-defense can only be applied if he/she reasonably believes all means to escape from or otherwise avoid great bodily injury or death has been exhausted.

Self-Defense Laws in Wisconsin

Understand the Wisconsin self-defense laws and how they apply to violent crime cases. For more information, contact our Milwaukee criminal defense lawyer at the Law Offices of Christopher J. Cherella today.

www.wicriminaldefense.com

From another legal site:

If you provoke an attack, you may not be able to claim legal self-defense against the attack unless it is likely to cause your death or great bodily harm. Even then, you must attempt every other reasonable option to escape, avoid, or prevent the attack before resorting to deadly force yourself. Additionally, you may not be entitled to a claim of self-defense if you provoked another person’s attack as an excuse for you to kill or severely harm that person.

How Do Wisconsin’s Self-Defense Laws Apply to Deadly Force? | Milwaukee, WI Criminal Defense Lawyer

We look at the Castle Doctrine and how Wisconsin laws address the use of force in self-defense. Call a Milwaukee criminal defense attorney at 414-271-1440.

www.grgblaw.com

And so the bottom line is the prosecution has to ask the jury if Rittenhouse did everything he could to "avoid" using deadly force? Did he do everything possible to escape being in a dangerous situation that would force him to use deadly force? Actually, he did quite the opposite.

He entered a violent situation armed.
He took measures to work against the mob by erasing their graffiti in front of them.
He reportedly put out a fire they started in a dumpster and pushed it towards a gas station.

Now if I'm a juror, that doesn't sound like he did everything possible to avoid putting himself in a situation of using deadly force as the law outlines. In fact to me, it seems like he did everything possible to put himself in a situation of using deadly force. The fact he was taking actions against the mobs destruction while carrying an AR-15 can easily be considered provoking them into an attack.

We'll see, but for people that think this is open and shut and the kid goes back home to video games better think twice.

 

[Faun]

No. He said he did not ask them to protect his business. It is clear that you do not have a nodding acquaintance with the facts presented at trial. You will just have to be surprised.

Aww, you poor dupe...

Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Car dealership workers testify

Rittenhouse is accused of shooting and killing two men outside the dealership. Friday, workers testified that they didn't ask anyone to protect the business.

www.fox6now.com

Khindri is one of the sons of the car dealership and repair shop's owner. The sons said Friday that they did not give permission for anyone to be inside or on the property, but one of the sons described interacting with Rittenhouse hours before the shootings – before the curfew began.​

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Aww, you poor dupe...

Kyle Rittenhouse trial: Car dealership workers testify

Rittenhouse is accused of shooting and killing two men outside the dealership. Friday, workers testified that they didn't ask anyone to protect the business.

www.fox6now.com

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Khindri is one of the sons of the car dealership and repair shop's owner. The sons said Friday that they did not give permission for anyone to be inside or on the property, but one of the sons described interacting with Rittenhouse hours before the shootings – before the curfew began.​

What part of he did not ask anyone to protect his business are you failing to understand?

This trial is going to come as a big surprise to you.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Kyle's friends that testified during the Prosecution last week have said nothing to really discredit him. So far the Prosecution has done a terrible job.

If the jury does it job properly and the Defense pushes the concept of self defense then Kyle has a real chance to walk.

Of course in these trials it is always hard to predict. Remember the jury letting Casey Anthony get away with killing her little child? How about OJ?

Lol, well Casey was hot as hell and OJ was an American sports lover icon. This is a fat little kid with a gun.

But you are correct, none of us can predict what conclusion the jury will come to. I didn't watch the trial but there seems to be a lot of people that thinks he's either a terrible prosecutor or throwing the case. The real question is was this a case of self-defense under Wisconsin law? It wouldn't be in my state.

 

[Flash]

Lol, well Casey was hot as hell and OJ was an American sports lover icon. This is a fat little kid with a gun.

But you are correct, none of us can predict what conclusion the jury will come to. I didn't watch the trial but there seems to be a lot of people that thinks he's either a terrible prosecutor or throwing the case. The real question is was this a case of self-defense under Wisconsin law? It wouldn't be in my state.

This would be a no brainier self defense here in Florida.