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hobelim said:
You have absolutely no idea how deep over your head you are, with whom you are disputing.

ding's response: :rofl:

My Dear Sweet Poppet,

Ha ha.

What you don't realize is that you are disputing with God himself when you say something stupid like you can escape the penalty for idolatry, death, a curse, by practicing idolatry. WTF

And that doesn't even take into account the world of trouble you are in for desecrating the Actual Body of Christ. WORDS from God. You are so screwed every which way from Sunday.

I SHIT YOU NOT

Now you know.



Affectionately,

Secular Jesus.
 
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I know is you are an idiot playing games.
Sure.

The game is truth or consequences. I'm the idiot who fearlessly faced the crowd to speak the truth. You are the genius who hides behind the BS faith that idolatry is the way to eternal life.

Sorry son, YOU LOSE.

You must now recede to the lower turnstile area where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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Passed down orally from when by whom if not Moses teaching children the danger of losing your sanity for life to a con like trump and his perverse fascination with men with muscles.

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The first eleven chapters of Genesis were ancient historical events - during a time when polytheism was the dominant religion of the land - that were crafted to teach lessons about the covenant, obedience, justice and Israel's relationship with God.

These early accounts are from Sumerian times when polytheism was the dominant religion of the land. The beliefs expressed in Genesis about a creator God that is moralistic and providential but did not control the affairs of men were a radical departure from polytheistic beliefs.

These accounts share notable similarities with older myths from other ancient Near Eastern cultures, leading many scholars to conclude they were adapted, rather than "stolen," to express Israelite monotheistic beliefs. The biblical authors reworked common literary motifs to convey their unique theological message.

Key examples of these parallels include:
  • The Flood Narrative: The story of Noah and the Ark shares significant plot details with the flood account in the much older Epic of Gilgamesh and the even earlier Atrahasis Epicfrom Mesopotamia.
    • Similarities: In both, a divine figure or council of gods decides to send a great flood to destroy humanity; a chosen man (Noah/Utnapishtim) is warned and instructed to build a large boat; animals are brought on board to preserve life; birds are sent out after the flood to check for dry land; the vessel lands on a mountain; and sacrifices are offered afterward.
    • Differences: The biblical account features one all-powerful God acting for moral reasons (human wickedness), while the Mesopotamian versions involve a pantheon of squabbling gods who are annoyed by human noise or simply choose to wipe them out, with one god breaking ranks to save his favorite human.
  • Creation Accounts: The Genesis 1 creation story has parallels with the Babylonian creation myth, the Enuma Elish.
    • Similarities: Both describe a primeval watery chaos before creation, the separation of waters by a firmament (sky), the creation of light before the sun and moon, and a similar sequence of events leading to a period of divine rest. The Hebrew word for the "deep" (tehom) in Genesis is linguistically related to the name of the chaos goddess Tiamat in the Enuma Elish.
    • Differences: Genesis is strictly monotheistic and portrays a sovereign, peaceful creation by divine command ("God said, 'Let there be...'"), while the Enuma Elish is polytheistic and involves a violent cosmic battle between the gods. Humans in Genesis are created in God's image and given dominion, while in the Enuma Elish, humans are created from the blood of a slain god to serve as the gods' slaves.
In essence, the ancient Israelites were part of the wider ancient Near Eastern culture and "breathed the same air". Their scribes used existing cultural and literary forms to present a revolutionary new idea: the existence of a single, all-powerful, and just God who created the world and humanity with purpose. The shared motifs help place the biblical texts within their historical context, but the theological emphasis remains uniquely Israelite.
 
your choice of religion is not an unsupported generalization ...

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its your support of that religion that is unsupported - or provide those tablets, commandments you use to persecute and victimize the innocent.
That's rich coming from you. 2 billion Christians believe in Christ for good reasons which are documented in the NT and corroborated by Jewish texts and non-Christian historians.

You have made up your own religion and have shared zero basis for your beliefs.
 
One of the problems is that Christians "believe" that sinning is the way to eternal life. Derp.
Incorrect but it would be shocking if either of you ever accurately stated Christian beliefs. You are both trolls.
 
My Dear Sweet Poppet,

Ha ha.

What you don't realize is that you are disputing with God himself when you say something stupid like you can escape the penalty for idolatry, death, a curse, by practicing idolatry. WTF

And that doesn't even take into account the world of trouble you are in for desecrating the Actual Body of Christ. WORDS from God. You are so screwed every which way from Sunday.

I SHIT YOU NOT

Now you know.



Affectionately,

Secular Jesus.
Look at you making a moral argument like a sanctimonious religious nutjob. It appears you are paying yourself back in religious coin.
 
Sure.

The game is truth or consequences. I'm the idiot who fearlessly faced the crowd to speak the truth. You are the genius who hides behind the BS faith that idolatry is the way to eternal life.

Sorry son, YOU LOSE.

You must now recede to the lower turnstile area where there is wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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Yet another sanctimonious moral argument. :clap:
 
Incorrect
Sin is disobedience to the Law. Idolatry is a sin under penalty of death, a curse. Every time you go to church and set aside the Law of God to worship a trinity that became a sacrificial mangod, a false substitute counterfeit ascetic Jesus, you die and descend into Gehenna, never finding peace in death. Week after week month after month year after year. Whee!

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Sin is disobedience to the Law. Idolatry is a sin under penalty of death, a curse. Every time you go to church and set aside the Law of God to worship a trinity that became a sacrificial mangod, a false substitute counterfeit ascetic Jesus, you die and descend into Gehenna, never finding peace in death. Weeek after week month after month year after year. Whee!
Yet another dogmatic moral argument of the sanctimonious claiming moral authority. :clap:
 
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hobelim said:
You have absolutely no idea how deep over your head you are, with whom you are disputing.

ding's response: :rofl:
Thanks for posting your new really cool tagline AGAIN. So I reposted this again. Just for you.

dufus.


My Dear Sweet Poppet,

Ha ha.

What you don't realize is that you are disputing with God himself when you say something stupid like you can escape the penalty for idolatry, death, a curse, by practicing idolatry. WTF

And that doesn't even take into account the world of trouble you are in for desecrating the Actual Body of Christ. WORDS from God. You are so screwed every which way from Sunday.

I SHIT YOU NOT

Now you know.



Affectionately,

Secular Jesus.
 
That's rich coming from you. 2 billion Christians believe in Christ for good reasons which are documented in the NT and corroborated by Jewish texts and non-Christian historians.

You have made up your own religion and have shared zero basis for your beliefs.
its your support of that religion that is unsupported - or provide those tablets, commandments you use to persecute and victimize the innocent.

did you forget the tablets those in your bible that never existed and were never witnessed by anyone before the heretic moses destroyed them.

the nt has not a single verification provided for any of its claims the same for all three desert religions and their phony bibles as well..
 
So the simple lesson taught to Hebrew children thousands of years ago about the danger of losing your mind for life to the deceptive sorcery, mind control, and specious lies of talking serpents, an obvious metaphor for people like Trump, is just magical delusion invented by barely literate superstitious people steeped in fear and ignorance? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?
You know what I meant. And you're a fool for searching for wisdom and lessons in an ancient pile of crap book that was our first and worst attempt at coming up with it and writing it down.

You can get that lesson elsewhere without having to extract it and contrive it from a pile of magical horseshit.
 
Thanks for posting your new really cool tagline AGAIN. So I reposted this again. Just for you.

dufus.


My Dear Sweet Poppet,

Ha ha.

What you don't realize is that you are disputing with God himself when you say something stupid like you can escape the penalty for idolatry, death, a curse, by practicing idolatry. WTF

And that doesn't even take into account the world of trouble you are in for desecrating the Actual Body of Christ. WORDS from God. You are so screwed every which way from Sunday.

I SHIT YOU NOT

Now you know.



Affectionately,

Secular Jesus.
You aren't God. You don't speak for God. You don't know God. You are a troll.
 
did you forget the tablets those in your bible that never existed and were never witnessed by anyone before the heretic moses destroyed them.

the nt has not a single verification provided for any of its claims the same for all three desert religions and their phony bibles as well..
You don't have beliefs. You have arguments against beliefs.
 
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You don't have beliefs. You have arguments against beliefs.
its your support of that religion that is unsupported - or provide those tablets, commandments you use to persecute and victimize the innocent.
the nt has not a single verification provided for any of its claims the same for all three desert religions and their phony bibles as well..

in your case they are not beliefs you claim commandments from the heavens no one ever witnessed yet those are what you use to persecute and victimize the innocent, false commandments madeup by a liar and murderer.

what christianity is based on - forgeries lies and fallacies they willingly chose as their beliefs appealing only to the darkness inside them, religion of servitude and denial.

than the true 1st century beliefs and hopes taught by jesus - liberation theology, self determination.
 
in your case they are not beliefs you claim commandments from the heavens no one ever witnessed yet those are what you use to persecute and victimize the innocent, false commandments madeup by a liar and murderer.

what christianity is based on - forgeries lies and fallacies they willingly chose as their beliefs appealing only to the darkness inside them, religion of servitude and denial.

than the true 1st century beliefs and hopes taught by jesus - liberation theology, self determination.
Thanks for proving my point.
 
You know what I meant. And you're a fool for searching for wisdom and lessons in an ancient pile of crap book that was our first and worst attempt at coming up with it and writing it down.
The Bible is not the "first" or "worst" written text in human history. Rather, it is a complex, historically significant library of 66 distinct texts written over 1,500 years by dozens of authors in three different languages (Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek). [1, 2]
Historical Context
Human writing existed long before the Bible. The earliest forms of written text—like the cuneiform script of ancient Sumer (dating back to roughly 3400 BCE) or the Egyptian hieroglyphs—preceded biblical texts by thousands of years. The Bible actually emerged within established literary cultures in the ancient Near East, drawing upon a long tradition of storytelling. [1, 2, 3]
How it Was Written
Rather than being the first attempt at literature, the Bible is a compilation of various genres (history, poetry, law, and prophecy) that evolved through oral traditions and waves of scribal editing before being written down. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  • The Old Testament: This foundational collection of ancient Israelite and Jewish texts was compiled and edited by various groups and scribes over many centuries. [1, 2]
  • The New Testament: This later collection was written in the first century CE. The four Gospels—the core accounts of Jesus' life—emerged out of oral traditions and were committed to writing decades after his death by early Greek-speaking Christian communities. [1, 2]
Its Cultural Impact
While historians, theologians, and skeptics continue to debate its accuracy and claims, the Bible fundamentally shaped Western civilization, literature, and art. Rather than being a single, cohesive book or our worst first attempt at writing, it is widely recognized by scholars as a vital cultural and theological record of antiquity.
You can get that lesson elsewhere
You absolutely can. Real-world skills, moral frameworks, and life lessons are available entirely independent of religious texts, drawing instead from science, philosophy, psychology, and secular literature. [1, 2, 3, 4]
A few highly actionable, non-religious avenues include:
  • Behavioral Science & Psychology: Skip the ancient parables and use evidence-based frameworks to build habits or improve your mental health. Books like Atomic Habits by James Clear or The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk provide concrete, practical tools for personal development. [1]
  • Philosophy & Ethics: For millennia, philosophers have debated how to live a good life without relying on divine intervention. Exploring Stoicism (such as Meditations by Marcus Aurelius) or Humanism (like Phil Zuckerman's Living the Secular Life) offers profound, grounded moral insight. [1, 2]
  • Narrative Fiction: Literary giants frequently explore complex human experiences—grief, resilience, empathy, and morality—without preaching. Novels and memoirs deliver unvarnished truths about the human condition and are widely discussed on platforms like Reddit's Book Suggestions. [1, 2]
  • Mindfulness-Based Practices: Secular meditation and mindfulness (such as programs taught through Headspace or the evidence-based MBSR courses) focus on stress reduction and presence, completely untethered from magical or religious dogma.
without having to extract it and contrive it from a pile of magical horseshit.
You are overly emotional which is probably why you have such an extreme bias. If you like I can share the behavioral science and psychology to prove this. No magic needed.
 

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