Just stop now

[CremeBrulee]

And that friction is a hint of how they could become a threat if we leave...

First off, welcome TominAustin. Austin is great city. I grew up there.

I agree. Not completely though. I think bases and troops are necessary in places like Korea and the Middle East. Even some in Germany. They can provide staging areas for troops should they be needed in distant locations. Does the US need the hundreds of bases that are currently home to hundreds of thousands of American troops overseas? Absolutely not. The cost of maintaining such high troop levels and that many bases would be better spent at home and/or on the troops themselves. They are a boon to the local economies of their host countries. That is money best spent in our communities. There are also a lot of places (Japan, the Middle East, central Asia) where the presence of American troops and bases cause friction with the locals. There are definitely plenty of areas where we can scale back.

I doubt the Japanese will become a threat to America after the Marines move to Guam.

 

[Pogo]

Sassy is Gassy in her first post. Tomin, don't ignore her. Read her, she provides much entertainment to the well informed here.

How would you know?

The humanhasbeen is also fun, Tomin, to read for giggles.

It's good to see the Embryo has graduated to words.

Surely grunts and random gurgling noises can't be far behind.

 

[Pogo]

We have 150k troops around the world in non war zones. How much would we save if we brought them all home. Then for grins stop our involvement in the mid east. Let the Saudis deal with it, they can afford to buy all our toys.

Let the flaming begin. Yes I am new here, not new to life and logic. I have zero tolerance for binary thinkers. That is all.

Ever wondered why they have remained non war zones?

Actually the only war zone is Korea.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Still getting shot at in the seventies and eighties in and around the DMZ.

 

[Tehon]

We have 150k troops around the world in non war zones. How much would we save if we brought them all home. Then for grins stop our involvement in the mid east. Let the Saudis deal with it, they can afford to buy all our toys.

Let the flaming begin. Yes I am new here, not new to life and logic. I have zero tolerance for binary thinkers. That is all.

What happens when the Saudis start dispensing oil for yuan?

Red herring fallacy.

You don't think there will be consequences for abandoning the ME? The oil embargo was not evidence enough of how the Saudis might react?

 

[gipper]

Then spent the money on education, science and infrastructure! That would be a damn good idea.

Guess we know who you are voting for...government knows best right?

Sanders Proposes $1 Trillion in New Infrastructure Spending

 

[depotoo]

How much did Obama promise, never to result in any real 'shovel ready' jobs? Wonder where all that money went to?

Then spent the money on education, science and infrastructure! That would be a damn good idea.

Guess we know who you are voting for...government knows best right?

Sanders Proposes $1 Trillion in New Infrastructure Spending

 

[JakeStarkey]

That is stupid, mere opinion: "How much did Obama promise, never to result in any real 'shovel ready' jobs? Wonder where all that money went to?"

 

[leftwinger]

How much did Obama promise, never to result in any real 'shovel ready' jobs? Wonder where all that money went to?

I believe it was near $1T added into first year budget. Ended up about 3% for actual infrastructure. They then kept budget spending at these level each year after? how they get away with this? good question. Where did the money go? a really good question. I can't see how $1T can vanish?

 

[leftwinger]

Guess we know who you are voting for...government knows best right?

Sanders Proposes $1 Trillion in New Infrastructure Spending

Way back when they began to spend $1T on Infrastructure "stimulus" I was not even all against it. At least have something to show for all that money or so I thought. But then 7-8 years later, I still avoid the same potholes dips bumps cracks. The same traffic bottlenecks cause huge traffic jams. fool me once.

 

[Pogo]

I certainly have to deal with it here every day where a massive road-widening is still taking place, doubling the size of what had been a 2-lane rural highway.

I know this must be hard to read but as long as you insist on inserting your replies upside down I'm gonna do the same thing and you'll just have to figure it out.

How much did Obama promise, never to result in any real 'shovel ready' jobs? Wonder where all that money went to?

Then spent the money on education, science and infrastructure! That would be a damn good idea.

Guess we know who you are voting for...government knows best right?

Sanders Proposes $1 Trillion in New Infrastructure Spending

 

[TomInAustin]

Oh great...another pacifist w/o a clue

So get much exercise jumping to conclusions? Tell me again why we should pay for a war in the mid east with our blood, lives and money?

 

[TomInAustin]

Then spent the money on education, science and infrastructure! That would be a damn good idea.

Agree. With the trillions Iraq and Afghanistan are going to cost we could provide healthcare, educate and feed the whole country.

 

[TomInAustin]

We have 150k troops around the world in non war zones. How much would we save if we brought them all home. Then for grins stop our involvement in the mid east. Let the Saudis deal with it, they can afford to buy all our toys.

Let the flaming begin. Yes I am new here, not new to life and logic. I have zero tolerance for binary thinkers. That is all.

What happens when the Saudis start dispensing oil for yuan?

So to you, spending trillions of dollars and ending up in perpetual war is ok as long as we protect the Petrodollar system? That is quite short sighted. Since we have enough to oil to last a century and natural gas for several, why should I give a crap about the sand dunes? Let them fight it out.

While we are at it explain to me why we need troops in Germany, Japan, Spain, England? Need I go on? How about Korea? Are you the type that thinks its ok to fund war but let our own starve?

 

[TomInAustin]

So you want to saty in Japan to prevent them from attacking US? LOL

And that friction is a hint of how they could become a threat if we leave...

First off, welcome TominAustin. Austin is great city. I grew up there.

I agree. Not completely though. I think bases and troops are necessary in places like Korea and the Middle East. Even some in Germany. They can provide staging areas for troops should they be needed in distant locations. Does the US need the hundreds of bases that are currently home to hundreds of thousands of American troops overseas? Absolutely not. The cost of maintaining such high troop levels and that many bases would be better spent at home and/or on the troops themselves. They are a boon to the local economies of their host countries. That is money best spent in our communities. There are also a lot of places (Japan, the Middle East, central Asia) where the presence of American troops and bases cause friction with the locals. There are definitely plenty of areas where we can scale back.

 

[TomInAustin]

His location is a big clue...

Oh great...another pacifist w/o a clue

I see a binary thinker. Since I'm in Austin I don't have valid opinions?

 

[Hossfly]

His location is a big clue...

Oh great...another pacifist w/o a clue

I see a binary thinker. Since I'm in Austin I don't have valid opinions?

Austin needs to be fumigated. Or ceded to New Mexico. Too many Progressive Liberal Pukes.

 

[Tehon]

We have 150k troops around the world in non war zones. How much would we save if we brought them all home. Then for grins stop our involvement in the mid east. Let the Saudis deal with it, they can afford to buy all our toys.

Let the flaming begin. Yes I am new here, not new to life and logic. I have zero tolerance for binary thinkers. That is all.

What happens when the Saudis start dispensing oil for yuan?

So to you, spending trillions of dollars and ending up in perpetual war is ok as long as we protect the Petrodollar system? That is quite short sighted. Since we have enough to oil to last a century and natural gas for several, why should I give a crap about the sand dunes? Let them fight it out.

While we are at it explain to me why we need troops in Germany, Japan, Spain, England? Need I go on? How about Korea? Are you the type that thinks its ok to fund war but let our own starve?

So to you, spending trillions of dollars and ending up in perpetual war is ok as long as we protect the Petrodollar system?

I'm not saying that, I'm asking if you have considered it. I assume you would be affected by the decline of the dollar. You say you don't tolerate binary thinking but I'm not convinced you aren't a binary thinker yourself.

That is quite short sighted. Since we have enough to oil to last a century and natural gas for several, why should I give a crap about the sand dunes? Let them fight it out.

The concern isn't about how much oil we have, it is what happens to the economy if the dollar loses its demand.

Are you the type that thinks its ok to fund war but let our own starve?

I'm anti war/ anti imperialism and I think our foreign policy is a disgrace. We need to cut back on defense spending and reassess our place in the world. I don't think we can just arbitrarily disengage our defenses though.

 

[depotoo]

It emanates from UT. It is such a naturally beautiful place. It's ashame.

His location is a big clue...

Oh great...another pacifist w/o a clue

I see a binary thinker. Since I'm in Austin I don't have valid opinions?

Austin needs to be fumigated. Or ceded to New Mexico. Too many Progressive Liberal Pukes.

 

[depotoo]

Having lived there, I know what emanates from UT. It is a social progressives paradise. It has tainted the air for moderates and conservatives.

His location is a big clue...

Oh great...another pacifist w/o a clue

I see a binary thinker. Since I'm in Austin I don't have valid opinions?