Juneteenth: Sorry, no deal

[PoliticalChic]

Well since people want to give republicans all this credit and that something like polichic will proudly declare how Frederick Douglass was a black republican:

“What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

Frederick Douglas​

“The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man."

A quote by Malcolm X

The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man. Let me explain what I mean by the white liberal. In America there ...

www.goodreads.com

Also Malcolm X

In 1963 that might have been the case, but no silly korean bitch can tell me shit about being black. Malcolm X would say something different today.

“Times have changed and the worst enemy that the Negro has today is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and claims to be calling out liberals. Following these white conservatives will continue perpetuating problems that Negros have. The Negro cannot be taken, tricked or deceived by the white conservatives, and must continue to get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in 21st Century America, the history of the white conservative has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal is the one with the problem. Our problems will never be solved by the white man, liberal or conservative.” -- Malcolm X, 2021

You are the best.

You left out the 'a'.....it's b-e-a-s-t.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Well since people want to give republicans all this credit and that something like polichic will proudly declare how Frederick Douglass was a black republican:

“What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

Frederick Douglas​

“The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man."

A quote by Malcolm X

The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man. Let me explain what I mean by the white liberal. In America there ...

www.goodreads.com

Also Malcolm X

“Times have changed and the worst enemy that the Negro has today is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and claims to be calling out liberals. Following these white conservatives will continue perpetuating problems that Negros have. The Negro cannot be taken, tricked or deceived by the white conservatives, and must continue to get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in 21st Century America, the history of the white conservative has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal is the one with the problem. Our problems will never be solved by the white man, liberal or conservative.” -- Malcolm X, 2021

"It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived."
Coulter

 

[Pellinore]

The day now known as "Juneteenth," the 19th of June, 1865, is the day when it is believed enslaved people in Galveston, TX, received word that they had been freed by the Emancipation Proclamation of January 1, 1863. The proclamation reads, in pertinent part:

"That on the first day of January, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, all persons held as slaves within any State or designated part of a State, the people whereof shall then be in rebellion against the United States, shall be then, thenceforward, and forever free..."

But there are some significant problems with the Emancipation Proclamation. First of all, there is no such thing as a "proclamation," and it does not have the force of law, let alone the force of a Constitutional Amendment. It is about as meaningful as a Presidential "signing statement" would be today, to wit, it was/is a President stating how the Executive department will interpret and carry out a law. But of course the EP was not carrying out any law; it was contrary to both laws and the Constitution.

More importantly, the EP, had it been legally effective, would have been a clear and gross violation of the Fifth Amendment, which states that no one shall be "deprived of...property without due process of law." Unfortunately, the enslaved individuals were at the time "property," owned by their respective masters. The President had no more power to free slaves than he had to demand that American cattle farmers release their livestock onto the open range. In short, he didn't have that power, and had he tried to exercise it, the slave owners would have had to be compensated for the value of their lost property ("slavery reparations"?).

Parenthetically, the Emancipation does not even purport to free the slaves in the Border States of Maryland, Delaware, Kentucky and Missouri, because, perversely, the President acknowledged that he lacked the power to do so. In effect, he was telling The World that (a) the rebellion had no effect and the states in rebellion were actually still part of the United States, but (b) the Constitution did not apply in those states. Hmmm.

Suffice it to say that the enslaved people were effectively emancipated on December 6, 1865, with the ratification of the Thirteenth Amendment.

What purpose does it serve to celebrate a date that had no legal meaning or status, rather than the actual date when the event occurred? Why not celebrate January 1 (1863); it has more legitimacy than June 19th. One suspects that it is merely one of a million examples of Leftist attempts to destroy our history by claiming that "What you have been taught all your life was WRONG!"

And now we have what? The Senate passes a bill that makes "Juneteenth" a national holiday - of which we already have far too many. If they are serious, they should think about de-holidizing Christmas, which if I'm not mistaken is a RELIGIOUS OCCASION that should not facilitate a government worker paid holiday.

It was an Executive Order (not a signing statement, which is attached to something else), but you're right in that it was a statement instructing the Executive branch how to function. Lincoln knew that he didn't have the power to free the slaves; the power of the EP was as a statement, telling everyone in no uncertain terms that when the Union won, the slaves would be freed. Three years later, Congress and the States did exactly that. It was a promise fulfilled.

 

[NoNukes]

Since black slaves were kidnapped and forcefully shipped here against their will under bondage, then why weren't they sent back to Africa after they were freed? Wouldn't that have been the compassionate thing to do? Why aren't modern day blacks clamoring to go back to Africa as soon as they can with all this talk of "systemic racism" and "white supremacy?" Why on earth would they want to stay here? They don't call themselves Americans, they call themselves African Americans, as though that's the country they love and identify with. So then, what's stopping them from going back?

Why dont you and your ilk fuck off back to Europe ?

They are not wanted here.

Neither are yous. Yet, here you is.

I am a European citizen.

 

[sealybobo]

Well since people want to give republicans all this credit and that something like polichic will proudly declare how Frederick Douglass was a black republican:

“What have I, or those I represent, to do with your national independence? Are the great principles of political freedom and of natural justice, embodied in that Declaration of Independence, extended to us? What to the American slave is your Fourth of July? I answer, a day that reveals to him more than all other days of the year, the gross injustice and cruelty to which he is the constant victim. To him your celebration is a sham; your boasted liberty an unholy license; your national greatness, swelling vanity; your sounds of rejoicing are empty and heartless; your shouts of liberty and equality, hollow mock; your prayers and hymns, your sermons and thanksgivings, with all your religious parade and solemnity, are to him mere bombast, fraud, deception, impiety, and hypocrisy - a thin veil to cover up crimes which would disgrace a nation of savages. There is not a nation of the earth guilty of practices more shocking and bloody than are the people of these United States at this very hour.”

Frederick Douglas​

“The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man."

A quote by Malcolm X

The white liberal is the worst enemy to America, and the worst enemy to the black man. Let me explain what I mean by the white liberal. In America there ...

www.goodreads.com

Also Malcolm X

“Times have changed and the worst enemy that the Negro has today is this white man that runs around here drooling at the mouth professing to love Negros and claims to be calling out liberals. Following these white conservatives will continue perpetuating problems that Negros have. The Negro cannot be taken, tricked or deceived by the white conservatives, and must continue to get together and solve our own problems. I only cite these things to show you that in 21st Century America, the history of the white conservative has been nothing but a series of trickery designed to make Negros think that the white liberal is the one with the problem. Our problems will never be solved by the white man, liberal or conservative.” -- Malcolm X, 2021

"It was the misfortune of black Americans that they were just on the verge of passing through the immigrant experience when damaging ideas about welfare and the lenient attitude about crime took hold. It could have happened to the Italians, Germans, Jews or Irish, but luckily for them, there were no Liberals around to “help” when they arrived."
Coulter

It could have happened to those whites but they only got picked on for a generation. Then their kids assimilated and became white.

Do you know why Dearborn, MI is doing so well even though there are a lot of Arabs there? Because we didn't cut them off from the economic opportunity like we did the blacks in Detroit. And we strategically put them in Dearborn to be a buffer between us whites and the blacks. Literally cut them off from all the economic opportunities.

If you look at the reddest states you'll see the same thing. Located next to the richest white neighborhoods are always a really poor black community that the whites can exploit. They can cut their grass or be their maids but you whites aren't hiring them for the good paying jobs.

And when were there no liberals around? When was that era?

 

[Orangecat]

Do you agree that people who live in Canada, Australia, Belgium, Germany, Zimbabway are all victims of their governments? Do you think you would do just as well in Belgium as you would in Ghana?

What do you mean by "do as well"? I am able to find satisfaction and happiness where ever I am. Those things come from within.

So you understand that not all governments/economies are equal.

Only a fool expects equality in the vast experience of life. Every person, every situation, and every life has pluses and minuses associated with it. Those things are subject to the consciousness that experiences them. You choose your attitude in life, and life rewards or punishes you by way of your own perceived reality.

 

[sealybobo]

Do you agree that people who live in Canada, Australia, Belgium, Germany, Zimbabway are all victims of their governments? Do you think you would do just as well in Belgium as you would in Ghana?

What do you mean by "do as well"? I am able to find satisfaction and happiness where ever I am. Those things come from within.

So you understand that not all governments/economies are equal.

Only a fool expects equality in the vast experience of life. Every person, every situation, and every life has pluses and minuses associated with it. Those things are subject to the consciousness that experiences them. You choose your attitude in life, and life rewards or punishes you by way of your own perceived reality.

Whatever. Fact is, if you live in a country where the government is corrupt and owned by the rich, the middle class struggles.

What us liberals created in America was the best. A small rich class. A small poor class. And a BIG middle class.

What your way created was a small rich class, small merchant class and the masses are known as the rabble or working poor.

Nobles Need Not Pay Taxes

A new aristocracy is taking over not just the United States of America but also the world. ... This is more than just a tax cut story.

www.thomhartmann.com

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Since black slaves were kidnapped and forcefully shipped here against their will under bondage, then why weren't they sent back to Africa after they were freed? Wouldn't that have been the compassionate thing to do? Why aren't modern day blacks clamoring to go back to Africa as soon as they can with all this talk of "systemic racism" and "white supremacy?" Why on earth would they want to stay here? They don't call themselves Americans, they call themselves African Americans, as though that's the country they love and identify with. So then, what's stopping them from going back?

Why dont you and your ilk fuck off back to Europe ?

They are not wanted here.

Neither are yous. Yet, here you is.

I am a European citizen.

Go home, Euroweenie!

 

[NoNukes]

Since black slaves were kidnapped and forcefully shipped here against their will under bondage, then why weren't they sent back to Africa after they were freed? Wouldn't that have been the compassionate thing to do? Why aren't modern day blacks clamoring to go back to Africa as soon as they can with all this talk of "systemic racism" and "white supremacy?" Why on earth would they want to stay here? They don't call themselves Americans, they call themselves African Americans, as though that's the country they love and identify with. So then, what's stopping them from going back?

Why dont you and your ilk fuck off back to Europe ?

They are not wanted here.

Neither are yous. Yet, here you is.

I am a European citizen.

Go home, Euroweenie!

I am home pathetic American.

 

[Orangecat]

Whatever. Fact is, if you live in a country where the government is corrupt and owned by the rich, the middle class struggles.

I'm not rich and I'm not struggling at all. Life is a grand adventure. So sorry your victim mentality hinders you to such a great degree. Is wealth all that matters to you?

What us liberals created in America was the best. A small rich class. A small poor class. And a BIG middle class.

You didn't create that.

What your way created was a small rich class, small merchant class and the masses are known as the rabble or working poor.

I didn't create that.

 

[sealybobo]

Well no shit. Before Reagan our country was running properly. We had a big thriving middle class. But the rich didn't like those labor costs so they

Quit whining, bitch, no one cares about your excuses for being a failure in life.

I'm not a failure in life. I make 6 figures and I have zero debt. If you can't beat them join them. I advocate for the struggling middle class. Blue collar.

The average salary range for a Blue Collar Worker is between $31,199 and $42,591. On average, a High School Degree is the highest level of education for a Blue Collar Worker. I have a bachelors degree.

And honestly? Fuck them. Too many of them voted for Trump. They deserve the America they got.

Me? I'm upper class and my brother is rich. My family will not be negatively affected by Republican economics.

 

[Unkotare]

This is what I usually fly on my property on Negro days

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No you don't, douche bag.

 

[Unkotare]

..... Is wealth all that matters to you?

...

His posting history proves just that. It's why he has to pretend to have more of it than he does.

 

[sealybobo]

Whatever. Fact is, if you live in a country where the government is corrupt and owned by the rich, the middle class struggles.

I'm not rich and I'm not struggling at all. Life is a grand adventure. So sorry your victim mentality hinders you to such a great degree. Is wealth all that matters to you?

What us liberals created in America was the best. A small rich class. A small poor class. And a BIG middle class.

You didn't create that.

What your way created was a small rich class, small merchant class and the masses are known as the rabble or working poor.

I didn't create that.

None of you Republicans are struggling. That's the problem. You don't give a fuck about people who are struggling. I'm not struggling yet I see our middle class is. And why? Because of Republican policies.

Back in the 2000's you guys said illegals were here only doing jobs Americans won't do. You COMPLAINED that corporations couldn't find enough workers. You complained that you didn't want to pay more for lettuce, as if anyone was complaining about migrant workers. You ignored the fact that since Reagan, illegals have been doing jobs Americans would do if you would just pay them an American wage. Instead corporations chose to hurt blue collar Americans and rip them off of billions of dollars a year. And those corporations saved billions every year hiring illegal workers. ILLEGAL EMPLOYERS are the problem my stupid little brainwashed friend.

You didn't create shit I know. You just benefit from your white ancestors and bias towards brown people and women. I know life is grand for you white man. It's grand for me too. I'm a white man too.

 

[sealybobo]

..... Is wealth all that matters to you?

...

His posting history proves just that. It's why he has to pretend to have more of it than he does.

Your an overpaid public school teacher who doesn't care that young teachers won't make as much as you did thanks to a union. You're just a poor hypocrite.

 

[Orangecat]

Me? I'm upper class and my brother is rich. My family will not be negatively affected by Republican economics.

Yawn. We're all successful millionaires online. I'm an astronaut!

Truth is, I'm happy and you're a miserable simp. You proclaim it in virtually every whinge-fest post.

 

[sealybobo]

..... Is wealth all that matters to you?

...

His posting history proves just that. It's why he has to pretend to have more of it than he does.

Your posting history shows you are a coward and mental midget.

 

[Unkotare]

...

I'm not a failure in life. I make 6 figures and I have zero debt. ....

How pathetic can you get?

 

[sealybobo]

Me? I'm upper class and my brother is rich. My family will not be negatively affected by Republican economics.

Yawn. We're all successful millionaires online. I'm an astronaut!

Truth is, I'm happy and you're a miserable simp. You proclaim it in virtually every whinge-fest post.

I'll keep that in mind the next time I find you on another thread complaining about this or that.

I'm not a millionaire. I make $100K and I am single with no kids. And my condo has been paid off a long time ago. And I went to college when it only cost $5K a year. NO DEBT Bitch. I'm not rich but I'm considered upper class.

Yes I tell you the truth and consistently. Oh, and my brother is rich and he didn't vote for Trump last time. He did in 2016. That's how bad Trump was my brother was willing to vote against his financial interests because Republicans are that bad. He wants to be a Republican sooooo bad too but they are soooo bad it's hard for him to do. They'll never get my vote.

 

[sealybobo]

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I'm not a failure in life. I make 6 figures and I have zero debt. ....

How pathetic can you get?

Again, you are poor and the only reason you're going to get a teachers pension is because of a union. Hypocrite.