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danielpalos

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Let's get something straight here, republicans proposed and got passed an amendment that would have made slavery constitutional had it been ratified. Democrats did not start a war to maintain slavery, the confederacy did. The same confederacy republicans defend today.



Republicans created a party whose mission was to end slavery.

Democrats began a war to maintain slavery.

Why won't you reveal which party you endorse?




And the very same query to the dunce who put the 'funny' emoticon.
Why do you keep repeating these lies?

The republican party is the party of the Corwin Amendment.

The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution that would shield "domestic institutions" of the states from the federal constitutional amendment process and from abolition or interference by Congress. Although the Corwin Amendment does not explicitly use the word slavery, it was designed specifically to protect slavery from federal power.

The proposed constitutional amendment declared:

No amendment of this Constitution, having for its object any interference within the States with the relations between their citizens and those described in second section of the first article of the Constitution as "all other persons", shall originate with any State that does not recognize that relation within its own limits, or shall be valid without the assent of every one of the States composing the Union.

On February 26, Congressman Thomas Corwin, who had chaired the earlier House committee, introduced his own text as a substitute, but it was not adopted. The following day, after a series of preliminary votes, the House voted 123 to 71 in favor of the original resolution, but as this was below the required two-thirds majority, the measure was not passed. On February 28, however, the House returned to and approved Corwin's version by a vote of 133 to 65, just barely above the two-thirds threshold.

This was Corwins versioon:

"No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

The Senate took up the proposed amendment on March 2, 1861, debating its merits without a recess through the pre-dawn hours on March 4. When the final vote was taken the amendment passed with exactly the needed two-thirds majority – 24-12.

Abraham Lincoln, in his first inaugural address on March 4, said of the Corwin Amendment:

I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution—which amendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service ... holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.

Just weeks prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, Lincoln sent a letter to each state's governor transmitting the proposed amendment, noting that Buchanan had approved it.

The Corwin Amendment has been ratified by:

Kentucky: April 4, 1861
Ohio: May 13, 1861 (rescinded ratification – March 31, 1864)
Rhode Island: May 31, 1861
Maryland: January 10, 1862 (rescinded ratification – April 7, 2014)
Illinois: June 2, 1863

On February 14, 1862, prior to the 1863 ratification of the amendment by the Illinois General Assembly, an Illinois state constitutional convention purported to ratify the Corwin Amendment. However, since Illinois state lawmakers were sitting as delegates to a convention at the time—and not meeting as the actual state legislature—that action was of questionable validity.

The Restored Government of Virginia, consisting mostly of representatives of what would become West Virginia, voted to approve the amendment on February 13, 1862. However, West Virginia did not ratify the amendment after it became a state in 1863.

In 1963, more than a century after the Corwin Amendment was submitted to the state legislatures by the Congress, a joint resolution to ratify it was introduced in the Texas House of Representatives by Dallas Republican Henry Stollenwerck


It would have made slavery legal had it been ratified.



The Republican Party shed its blood to see that slavery ended.

The Democrat Party started a war to maintain slavery.


Now....which one do you vote for???
Why are right-wingers soo disingenuous? The right-wing used to vote democrat or we would have never had a Civil War with a republican president; unless y'all really were just plain traitors to the Union instead of rebels without a Cause.

Being that disingenuous on purpose is not very ethical or conducive to the discovery of sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation.
 

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The Republican Party shed its blood to see that slavery ended.

The Democrat Party started a war to maintain slavery.
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Let's get something straight here, republicans proposed and got passed an amendment that would have made slavery constitutional had it been ratified. Democrats did not start a war to maintain slavery, the confederacy did. The same confederacy republicans defend today.



Republicans created a party whose mission was to end slavery.

Democrats began a war to maintain slavery.

Why won't you reveal which party you endorse?




And the very same query to the dunce who put the 'funny' emoticon.
Why do you keep repeating these lies?

The republican party is the party of the Corwin Amendment.

The Corwin Amendment is a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution that would shield "domestic institutions" of the states from the federal constitutional amendment process and from abolition or interference by Congress. Although the Corwin Amendment does not explicitly use the word slavery, it was designed specifically to protect slavery from federal power.

The proposed constitutional amendment declared:

No amendment of this Constitution, having for its object any interference within the States with the relations between their citizens and those described in second section of the first article of the Constitution as "all other persons", shall originate with any State that does not recognize that relation within its own limits, or shall be valid without the assent of every one of the States composing the Union.

On February 26, Congressman Thomas Corwin, who had chaired the earlier House committee, introduced his own text as a substitute, but it was not adopted. The following day, after a series of preliminary votes, the House voted 123 to 71 in favor of the original resolution, but as this was below the required two-thirds majority, the measure was not passed. On February 28, however, the House returned to and approved Corwin's version by a vote of 133 to 65, just barely above the two-thirds threshold.

This was Corwins versioon:

"No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State."

The Senate took up the proposed amendment on March 2, 1861, debating its merits without a recess through the pre-dawn hours on March 4. When the final vote was taken the amendment passed with exactly the needed two-thirds majority – 24-12.

Abraham Lincoln, in his first inaugural address on March 4, said of the Corwin Amendment:

I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution—which amendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service ... holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.

Just weeks prior to the outbreak of the Civil War, Lincoln sent a letter to each state's governor transmitting the proposed amendment, noting that Buchanan had approved it.

The Corwin Amendment has been ratified by:

Kentucky: April 4, 1861
Ohio: May 13, 1861 (rescinded ratification – March 31, 1864)
Rhode Island: May 31, 1861
Maryland: January 10, 1862 (rescinded ratification – April 7, 2014)
Illinois: June 2, 1863

On February 14, 1862, prior to the 1863 ratification of the amendment by the Illinois General Assembly, an Illinois state constitutional convention purported to ratify the Corwin Amendment. However, since Illinois state lawmakers were sitting as delegates to a convention at the time—and not meeting as the actual state legislature—that action was of questionable validity.

The Restored Government of Virginia, consisting mostly of representatives of what would become West Virginia, voted to approve the amendment on February 13, 1862. However, West Virginia did not ratify the amendment after it became a state in 1863.

In 1963, more than a century after the Corwin Amendment was submitted to the state legislatures by the Congress, a joint resolution to ratify it was introduced in the Texas House of Representatives by Dallas Republican Henry Stollenwerck


It would have made slavery legal had it been ratified.



The Republican Party shed its blood to see that slavery ended.

The Democrat Party started a war to maintain slavery.


Now....which one do you vote for???
Why are right-wingers soo disingenuous? The right-wing used to vote democrat or we would have never had a Civil War with a republican president; unless y'all really were just plain traitors to the Union instead of rebels without a Cause.

Being that disingenuous on purpose is not very ethical or conducive to the discovery of sublime Truth (value) discoverable through argumentation.
Lincoln was a progressive that any of these Trumpanzees would have drummed right out of the GQP. Fuckin idiots.
 

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It is now treasonous to celebrate the day slavery ended.
According to today's Republicans.

But we are to believe that they were the non- racist party.

#LOLGOP #TooFunny #CLASSIC
To funny how you continually attempt to tie racism and racist to republican's, when it's absolutely not the case. Conservative politician's and their base are generally tied to nothing but having standards to be upheld, ethics upheld, religious beliefs supported, job's created, the economy stabilized, security kept, energy independence, safe communities, strong military, voting integrity, merit's, work ethic, tradition's, Peace, and secure borders.

Don't see racism or the promotion of racist in there, because there isn't any.

It's merely a political strategy used by the dims in a constant attempt to gain power through race baiting tactics, and falsehoods being used.
 

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