Judge Bars Proof of Citizenship for Voting

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The Supreme Court doesn't have to "take the case" now.....or even ever. All they have to do is grant a stay on the lower court's injuction while the case is appealed and litigated. That effectively ends the Obama appointee's injuction. We call that a shadow docket case. The court issues an emergency order. The court has already sided with the Constitution, law, and the Trump administration nearly 30 times since Trump took office last year using the same process.

The horrific fact is that the court has had to issue so many emergency shadow docket rulings overturning these activist judges. Why do you people support such activist bullshit?

Go after the hordes and masses of illegal immigrants you claim are voting, and leave us citizens alone! The States run their elections and make the rules on how they are run....and they take measures to prevent illegals from voting, and ensure every eligible citizen, can easily vote.

BTW, why would any illegal immigrant today take the chance of getting caught illegally voting which is committing a felony and an immediate deportation??

Only citizens can vote in federal elections. The legislators and election officials know this, and enforce this...each state does this with their own methods....as the U.S. constitution dictates that they do.

Before you put burdens on citizens to vote, you have to prove there is a problem with illegal's voting in the first place and the burden on citizens will correct the problem and the pain in the ass burden, doesn't outweigh the relief it may bring.

If you look at the history of voting... racists are always trying to deny basic rights (like voting) to the people they don't like.

If you looked at racists efforts to rig elections, it's a constant, and shouldn't be surprising.

Before he retired, Republican Judge Posner, was one of the best judges in the country, he argued forcefully against attempts to rig elections.

 

[Care4all]

Federal legislation requires that only US citizens can register to vote in Federal elections. It's not like the President made that up.

And State held Federal Elections operate under those rules....no??

 

[Care4all]

Poor black people have to prove their status all the time and are just fine doing so. Simple things like beig able to drive a vehichle legally. Being able to rent an apartment. Being able to pay their power bill. Being able to collect welfare. Being able to purchase alcohol......etc, etc. etc.

Now you really believe these people are too f*cking dumb to do something that is so imbelievably simple for an American citizen or is the the Dems real motivation here to get illegals to vote as much as possible? Lets look at the facts, shall we? Blue city Dems have increasingly been trying to pass laws to make it legal for illegal aliens to vote in local elections. No doubt they would absolutely LOVE to do so federally if the couldas well. Anything that impedes that process they declare war on and scream racism. Otoh, black Americans are not too f*cking to figure how to vote. They do lots of things that require proof of citizenship all the time.

Your ilk's actions speak far louder than any garbage left-wing denials you dipshits spew.

The SAVE ACT and those measures is likely unconstitutional.....the suits are already lined up.

The SAVE ACT does not allow new registrants to use their State Driver's licence or REAL ID licences, or Military ID as acceptable ID to register to vote.

AND if a married woman .....their Birth Certificate can't be used either, they have to order a copy of their marriage licence as well....to show the name change....

And you are making them, citizens who have done no wrong, jump through hoops to register to vote, to stop a crime that virtually, does not exist, massive voter fraud by illegals.

This will not hold up, in the courts....imo.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The SAVE ACT and those measures is likely unconstitutional.....the suits are already lined up.

The SAVE ACT does not allow new registrants to use their State Driver's licence or REAL ID licences, or Military ID as acceptable ID to register to vote.

AND if a married woman .....their Birth Certificate can't be used either, they have to order a copy of their marriage licence as well....to show the name change....

And you are making them, citizens who have done no wrong, jump through hoops to register to vote, to stop a crime that virtually, does not exist, massive voter fraud by illegals.

This will not hold up, in the courts....imo.

The language of the Act sucks.

For example...

Most REAL ID's DON'T SHOW citizenship status. Look at almost any state REAL ID drivers license. Most don't show citizenship status, yet the law requires that it indicate citizenship status. All the REAL ID's would have to updated and reissued to comply with the law. [There are only 5 states currently issue ENHANCED REAL ID, IDs that show citizenship. The vast majority do not.
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Here is another one...

#1 The military isn't going to give you your personnel jacket to walk out with to take to a voter reqistration location and return it later. The "normal" record of military service is the DD-214.

#2 However the DD-214 is only generated at end of an enlistment (enlisted) or end of commission (officer), so if you are a first term'er you don't have a DD-214 to show.

#3 It requires the DD-214 show show the place of birth as the United States, however DD-214's don't show place of birth, they show date of birth and location of initial entry, but not place of birth. (Now the DD-214 could be updated for future seperations, but all of us that got one in the past wouldn't have a qualifying DD-214.)

#4 It limits the applicablity of military ID and record of service only to those born in the United States. So if my US citizen children had been born in Japan while my wife and I were stationed there instead of Guam, their place of birth would be Japan. Even if they presented military documentation, they wouldn't be able to register to vote because Japan isn't in the United States.

#5 Paragraph 5 under Documentary Proof allows for the presentation of a valid Federal, State or Trible ID (which doesn't show place of birth) if one or more other document that does show place of birth is also provided. However, and here is the kicker - the law states that this is allowed for ID NOT listed in items 1-4. Items 1-4 were REAL ID, Passport, Military ID and military record showing place of birth, and Federal ID showing place of birth.

• Why is #5 important, because paragraph 5D under the proof of citizenship section allows for presenting a Consular Report of Birth Abroad. But since Military ID is one of 1-4 and 5D specifically ExCLUDES items 1-4 for use in conjunction with a Consular Report of Birth Abroad with a Military ID.
• So for Military ID (which doesn't indicated place of birth), members will often not have a DD-214 and the DD-214 doesn't show place of birth AND if you show a military ID you can't use a Consular Report along with a military ID anyway.

Brilliant.

WW

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/22/text

 

[SeaMajor7]

The SCOTUS already ruled that pissant fed district court judges MUST stay in their lane.
This DEI retard can POUND SAND.

 

[Care4all]

We do have to prove it?

• Every state with voter registration requires voters to attest they are a U.S. citizen when registering to vote, and 12 states have passed laws requiring proof of citizenship to register to vote in at least some cases.<a href="https://ballotpedia.org/Laws_permitting_noncitizens_to_vote_in_the_United_States#cite_note-4">[4]</a>
• The District of Columbia and municipalities in three states allowed noncitizens to vote in local elections.
• In 2024, eight states approved ballot measures that explicitly prohibited noncitizen voting in their state constitutions. In 2025, voters in Texas approved a similar measure.

The SAVE ACT has gone too far: It rejects Real ID, rejects state driver's licences, rejects Military ID as valid IDs to register to vote, and birth certificates are rejected as valid as well, if a married woman if not paired with a marriage licence.....

All for Non citizen voter fraud that does not exist in any kind of number that comes remotely close to affecting any of the results. 0.0001%

Your purpose is to prevent as many young adult citizens and newly naturalized citizens from registering to vote and voting.....by making the process of registering to vote, cumbersome.

 

[Captain Caveman]

Great! Now republicans can acquire votes from countries around the world who identify with liberty and freedom. I’ll start by getting millions of Japanese to vote in my local town council elections.

Federal judge bars Trump from implementing proof of citizenship requirement to vote

A federal judge on Wednesday permanently barred President Donald Trump’s administration from implementing most of his first executive order on elections, part of which sought to require people to show...

www.yahoo.com

The US is very backwards with voting. In the UK you need ID to vote and to register to vote you have to qualify -

So when you register to vote, you're checked, then to vote you need appropriate ID. Boris Johnson forgot his ID so they turned him away, he had to go home for ID.

 

[Care4all]

The SCOTUS already ruled that pissant fed district court judges MUST stay in their lane.
This DEI retard can POUND SAND.

17 State Attorney generals sued in the case. It did not involve just 1 state or district.

 

[ColonelAngus]

You commies claim you are so much smarter than dumb ass righties like me….BUT YOUR VOTERS ARE TOO STUPID TO GET AN ID?

 

[Care4all]

The US is very backwards with voting. In the UK you need ID to vote and to register to vote you have to qualify -

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So when you register to vote, you're checked, then to vote you need appropriate ID. Boris Johnson forgot his ID so they turned him away, he had to go home for ID.

Are all citizens given these acceptable IDs, or do you have to go out of your way to get one? Do you have a National ID requirement in the UK, so every citizen has a National ID?

 

[Captain Caveman]

Are all citizens given these acceptable IDs, or do you have to go out of your way to get one? Do you have a National ID requirement in the UK?

There are loads of acceptable ID -

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/voter-id/accepted-forms-photo-id

Then for those who are retarded enough not to manage that, they can apply and get a Voter Authority Certificate. So everyone is included, no racism involved and all that nonsense.

 

[Captain Caveman]

There are loads of acceptable ID -

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/voter-id/accepted-forms-photo-id

Then for those who are retarded enough not to manage that, they can apply and get a Voter Authority Certificate. So everyone is included, no racism involved and all that nonsense.

There's no national ID, it's been talked about in the past, wanker Starmer went all out to implement it and suddenly dropped the idea because he was told to. If the idiots in government got their act together on immigration, they wouldn't have to do half of the shit we go through just to live in our own country.

 

[BlindBoo]

Federal legislation requires that only US citizens can register to vote in Federal elections. It's not like the President made that up.

The part that is made up by Benedict Donnie and parroted by his Neo-GOP, is that there is or ever was an outcome determinate % of non citizens voting in any state. It's all made up based on the Biglie.

 

[Nostra]

A federal judge blocked the Trump administration's effort to use a centralized database of Americans' personal information to purge voter rolls, ruling that the initiative unlawfully "trampled" on citizen privacy rights. [1, 2]

Court Rulings and Privacy Violations

• Database Injunction: U.S. District Court Judge Sparkle Sooknanan struck down the administration's expanded use of the SAVE (Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements) program, which the administration overhauled to aggregate millions of Americans' sensitive data. [1, 2]
• Statutory Breaches: The judge found the system violated the federal Privacy Act, the Social Security Act, and the Administrative Procedure Act. The government bypassed public notice requirements and illegally shared Social Security numbers and related records. [1, 2]

So Sez a foreign born Biden hack judge.

So your one example is something that never happened.

Run along, Trollglow, ya got nuffin’

 

[Nostra]

Sparkle Sooknanan is a Democrat, appointed by Biden.

The Supreme court can overturn her ruling.

I had to look that one up. Figured it was made up like everything else the moron posts.

 

[BlindBoo]

Democrats have waged an all-out war to keep illegals in this country free from prosecution.

The Biden administration carried out approximately 4.7 million expulsions, deportations, or returns of migrants to their home countries or to Mexico between fiscal years 2021 and 2024.

Obama formally removed 3 million noncitizens from the U.S. over two terms – more than any other president in American history, according to data from the Department of Homeland Security.

In comparison, President George Bush removed about 870,000 people; Bill Clinton, about 2 million; and Donald Trump about 1.2 million people during his first term.

The DHS defines a removal as a formal court order expelling a person from inside the U.S. Obama does not hold the record for returns, a separate statistic addressing individuals turned away at the border prior to entering the U.S.

According to the Migration Policy Institute, immigration and enforcement policies and practices under the Obama administration focused on recent unauthorized border crossers and those who had committed crimes.

When combining removals and returns, Clinton expelled about 12.3 million people, the most of any U.S. president overall.

Did President Obama remove more noncitizens from the U.S. than any other president in U.S history?

The U.S Department of Homeland Security defines a removal as a former court order expelling a person out of the United States.

elpasomatters.org

Benedict Donald's New Republicans were ordered not to fix the problem because the Propaganda Ministry wanted to use the issue for political gain. Meaning all the media positioning and outrage aimed at a tiny % of criminals was phony, as usual to keep the hoards salivating.

A good number of states wink at registering voters and take the word of illegals

A bold accusation. As per usual, with no proof.

 

[Nostra]

BTW, why would any illegal immigrant today take the chance of getting caught illegally voting which is committing a felony and an immediate deportation??

Only citizens can vote in federal elections.

Ask these illegal voters why they voted in our elections, Stupid.

ICE Arrests Criminal Illegal Alien who Voted in Seven Federal Elections Since 2008 | Homeland Security

DHS announced that ICE, in partnership with the FBI, arrested Mahady Sacko, a criminal illegal alien from Mauritania, charged for voter fraud in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.

www.dhs.gov

‘I Voted’ sticker helps convict noncitizen who cast ballot in 2024 as election security debate heats up

Lina Maria Orovio-Hernandez convicted on federal charges of identity theft, passport fraud and illegal voting in Massachusetts. Justice Department highlighted the rare case.

www.foxnews.com

I could post these all day long.

 

[Nostra]

The Biden administration carried out approximately 4.7 million expulsions, deportations, or returns of migrants to their home countries or to Mexico between fiscal years 2021 and 2024.

Obama formally removed 3 million noncitizens from the U.S. over two terms – more than any other president in American history, according to data from the Department of Homeland Security.

In comparison, President George Bush removed about 870,000 people; Bill Clinton, about 2 million; and Donald Trump about 1.2 million people during his first term.

The DHS defines a removal as a formal court order expelling a person from inside the U.S. Obama does not hold the record for returns, a separate statistic addressing individuals turned away at the border prior to entering the U.S.

According to the Migration Policy Institute, immigration and enforcement policies and practices under the Obama administration focused on recent unauthorized border crossers and those who had committed crimes.

When combining removals and returns, Clinton expelled about 12.3 million people, the most of any U.S. president overall.

Did President Obama remove more noncitizens from the U.S. than any other president in U.S history?

The U.S Department of Homeland Security defines a removal as a former court order expelling a person out of the United States.

elpasomatters.org

Benedict Donald's New Republicans were ordered not to fix the problem because the Propaganda Ministry wanted to use the issue for political gain. Meaning all the media positioning and outrage aimed at a tiny % of criminals was phony, as usual to keep the hoards salivating.


A bold accusation. As per usual, with no proof.

Barry and Tater are massive racists.

 

[Nostra]

If you look at the history of voting... racists are always trying to deny basic rights (like voting) to the people they don't like.

If you looked at racists efforts to rig elections, it's a constant, and shouldn't be surprising.

Before he retired, Republican Judge Posner, was one of the best judges in the country, he argued forcefully against attempts to rig elections.

Post them so we can “look at them”.

I say you are having delusions.

Prove me wrong.

 

[Nostra]

The SAVE ACT and those measures is likely unconstitutional.....the suits are already lined up.

The SAVE ACT does not allow new registrants to use their State Driver's licence or REAL ID licences, or Military ID as acceptable ID to register to vote.

AND if a married woman .....their Birth Certificate can't be used either, they have to order a copy of their marriage licence as well....to show the name change....

And you are making them, citizens who have done no wrong, jump through hoops to register to vote, to stop a crime that virtually, does not exist, massive voter fraud by illegals.

This will not hold up, in the courts....imo.

No way it is unconstitutional. The Constitution limits voting to US citizens. How would trying to enforce that violate it, Dumbass?