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are the "motor bosses" the bosses of that halfTime and time again the workers bail out the corps.
Iremember all the motor bosses going to Washington fortheir handouts.
Every one of them went there to plead poverty in a private jet.
Dont get started on all the banks who were "too big to fail.2
don's carpenters work as independentResidential carpenters here overwhelmingly voted down unions.
Why should I pay dues to keep a job? Especially with a shortage of workers?
Every union worker I know spends a ton of time sitting idle. I can get work the next day.
I am sure they have a rough idea. It depends on what our values are. Prior to Thatcher and Regan we were, certainly in the UK, working towards a country where everyone had a chance and no one was living in absolute poverty which means you do not have enough money for the essential, a roof over your head, food and required heating. Instead at that time we spoke of relative poverty where some people did not have sufficient money to join in what were thought of as the norms of society but did have the essentials. When I heard one of the Tories saying they were no longer going to speak about 'relative poverty' when they first got into power I thought Oh No and we have moved so that sometimes people are dying here for want of a meal or even suicide because of their situation. A lot of those people were the disabled who got their money cut. It goes with democracy to try and give everyone as much of an equal start as possible. We obviously are not born equal so other things need to happen like giving poor families fruit for their kids and giving their kids an early start in education and so on. We were doing that till 2010 when the Tories came in. Acting in such a way allows every hone to feel a part of society and curs down on mental illness and crime. Sadly the Tories only care about letting the Rich get Richer. Half of them went to Etam anyway. Thethanks----I clicked----I find the discussion to be
sorta silly------more money than the POOREST
PEOPLE ON EARTH is a kinda meaningless
comparison-----a huge number of people on earth own NOTHING at all. There are penniless
gypsies and nomads who LIVE OFF THE LAND.
There are penniless families in the USA who live on "welfare" How do you access the "wealth"
of a petty thief? by BANK ACCOUNT? How
do you access the "wealth" of an inner city
prostitute or pimp or even a strong man who
lives off of undeclared odd jobs in the USA---
or a kurd up in the hills of Turkey, Syria, Iraq
or Iran------INCOME TAX RECORDS?
“Governments are not helpless in the face of technological change and market forces. If politicians stop obsessing with GDP, and focus on delivering for all their citizens and not just a wealthy few, a better future is possible for everyone.”
Oxfam’s blueprint for a more human economy includes:
Governments end the extreme concentration of wealth to end poverty. Governments should increase taxes on both wealth and high incomes to ensure a more level playing field, and to generate funds needed to invest in healthcare, education and job creation.
Governments cooperate rather than just compete. Governments should work together to ensure workers are paid a decent wage, and to put a stop to tax dodging and the race to the bottom on corporate tax.
Governments support companies that benefit their workers and society rather than just their shareholders. The multi-billion Euro company Mondragon, is owned by its 74,000 strong workforce. All employees receive a decent wage because its pay structure ensures that the highest paid member of staff earns no more than 9 times the amount of the lowest paid.
Governments ensure economies work for women. They must help to dismantle the barriers to women’s economic progress such as access to education and the unfair burden of unpaid care work.
Oxfam is also calling on business leaders to play their part in building a human economy. The World Economic Forum has responsive and responsible leadership as its key theme this year. They can make a start by committing to pay their fair share of tax and by ensuring their businesses pay a living wage. People around the global can also join the campaign at www.evenitup.org.
Many are, or work for smaller outfits.don's carpenters work as independent
contracters?
Why do you mention those 8 richest people none of whom has anything to do with Britain? The topic is about the UK. I hope you aren't going to organise the world revolution.I am sure they have a rough idea. It depends on what our values are. Prior to Thatcher and Regan we were, certainly in the UK, working towards a country where everyone had a chance and no one was living in absolute poverty which means you do not have enough money for the essential, a roof over your head, food and required heating. Instead at that time we spoke of relative poverty where some people did not have sufficient money to join in what were thought of as the norms of society but did have the essentials. When I heard one of the Tories saying they were no longer going to speak about 'relative poverty' when they first got into power I thought Oh No and we have moved so that sometimes people are dying here for want of a meal or even suicide because of their situation. A lot of those people were the disabled who got their money cut. It goes with democracy to try and give everyone as much of an equal start as possible. We obviously are not born equal so other things need to happen like giving poor families fruit for their kids and giving their kids an early start in education and so on. We were doing that till 2010 when the Tories came in. Acting in such a way allows every hone to feel a part of society and curs down on mental illness and crime. Sadly the Tories only care about letting the Rich get Richer. Half of them went to Etam anyway. The
Any way the Amnesty article suggests this
We don't leave the poorest and most incapable just to die there on their own. We work to make sure no one finds themselves in that position. That really is the choice.....but the Power of the richest 8 what do you think of that? It is about creating a situation where there is the possibility of social mobility. Social Mobility in the UK is pretty much dead. Obviously this is not necessarily talking about Capitalists but about being able to become a Professional.
They are paying for 2007/8 mistakes. Apart from in Iceland where the put them in jail. For everyone else they will be paying it out of their taxes for generations. The working people are again being asked to pay for the inflation this time and indeed have been having to pay for whatever was needed since 2007/8. That means just now while the landlord can still put the rent up and is doing that, the workers according to the Government must not get a pay rise to go with the 9% inflation. They have also paid with their jobs. For several years people were given the choice of a pay rise and some people made redundant or no pay rise. One really big one was that in all these economic deals which were going on between countries there was always a clause to protect the Capitalists from losing their money. It is not Capitalism but it is calling itself that. It is not allowing social mobility so it is not democratic.the "working people" will be "forced to do.."
what? What working people are part of
the "half the world" who are the poorest?
Because that is todays Capitalism. I asked what do you think about 8 people having all that power. It is obscene.Why do you mention those 8 richest people none of whom has anything to do with Britain? The topic is about the UK. I hope you aren't going to organise the world revolution.
What can I think about them? They are smart, lucky, reached what they wanted. Do I think that all their money should be taken away and given to the poor? No. Until they are proved to have gotten their fortunes illegaly.Because that is todays Capitalism. I asked what do you think about 8 people having all that power. It is obscene.
FDR opposed unions? uhm-----was that his
mother's idea? Just government employees?
What are we calling government employees
I have forgotten lots of my Junior High School
Education----what is the name of the law?
Did not read that, sorry if that is true though.tck tck, you been reading the Fail Parts of Britain now poorer than POLAND
Society needs a reset because the balance is all wrong.
Roosevelt didn't oppose unions
What can I think about them? They are smart, lucky, reached what they wanted. Do I think that all their money should be taken away and given to the poor? No. Until they are proved to have gotten their fortunes illegaly.
But as I said above, they have nothing to do with the UK. And you understand that the UK with the rest of Europe got their wealth thanks to capitalism, right?
OH !!!! the UK-----traditionally had very littleI am sure they have a rough idea. It depends on what our values are. Prior to Thatcher and Regan we were, certainly in the UK, working towards a country where everyone had a chance and no one was living in absolute poverty which means you do not have enough money for the essential, a roof over your head, food and required heating. Instead at that time we spoke of relative poverty where some people did not have sufficient money to join in what were thought of as the norms of society but did have the essentials. When I heard one of the Tories saying they were no longer going to speak about 'relative poverty' when they first got into power I thought Oh No and we have moved so that sometimes people are dying here for want of a meal or even suicide because of their situation. A lot of those people were the disabled who got their money cut. It goes with democracy to try and give everyone as much of an equal start as possible. We obviously are not born equal so other things need to happen like giving poor families fruit for their kids and giving their kids an early start in education and so on. We were doing that till 2010 when the Tories came in. Acting in such a way allows every hone to feel a part of society and curs down on mental illness and crime. Sadly the Tories only care about letting the Rich get Richer. Half of them went to Etam anyway. The
Any way the Amnesty article suggests this
We don't leave the poorest and most incapable just to die there on their own. We work to make sure no one finds themselves in that position. That really is the choice.....but the Power of the richest 8 what do you think of that? It is about creating a situation where there is the possibility of social mobility. Social Mobility in the UK is pretty much dead. Obviously this is not necessarily talking about Capitalists but about being able to become a Professional.
The US now has poor social mobility. Them and the UK are usually down among the worst in the Developed world. However during the 60's and 70's the UK had good social mobility. The Nordic Countries followed by much of Europe tend to be the best in the world now. I did not speak about social welfare.OH !!!! the UK-----traditionally had very little
Social Mobility compared to the USA .... HOWEVER
you are claiming that there is no social welfare
in the UK? IDK
I thought I already did that in the post 109.You have refused to answer the question again. What do you think about the Power they have?
I have no idea who this girl is but she gets it completely. Smashes the tory interviewer off the set.
Things can always get wors.e. But, like all socialists, I believe in looking forward. A country that lets a fund manager pay less tax than his cleaner is in urgent need of revision.Be careful for what you wish ... you may actually get it.
Resets have been tried before, they typically end up the worst for those who need it the most.
The problem with believing that things will get better for you if only "one thing" is changed ...
... it doesn't matter if that one thing is "The Great Reset" or "Workers control the means of production" or "If I were only a woman/man instead of a man/woman" or "Kill all the Jews" ...
When that one thing is changed, life still goes on as before and whatever made you wish for that one thing is still there causing all the same problems.
When you realize that, the profound sense of disappointment will often have you believing things are worse than ever before.
The sad truth is, it is Capitalists who provide the means of production, not the workers. The Soviets discovered this when they found out that building "just one more tractor factory" didn't ever bring the "Socialist Worker's Utopia".
The Soviet Union's "great reset" left everyone worse off than before, except for that small group of people with the smarts to grab a bit of power for themselves before the system fell apart. And, when the system finally did find apart, those same persons, be they commissars, or politburo, or KGB, found themselves in a perfect position to pick the carcass of the failed state and become oligarchs.
Remember ... it's very easy to tear down the outhouse. It's much more difficult to install plumbing.
What can I think about them? They are smart, lucky, reached what they wanted. Do I think that all their money should be taken away and given to the poor? No. Until they are proved to have gotten their fortunes illegaly.
But as I said above, they have nothing to do with the UK. And you understand that the UK with the rest of Europe got their wealth thanks to capitalism, right? Post 109
I thought I already did that in the post 109.
What power they have, I don't know. It is a conspiracy theories land.
The 59 Americans whose fortunes have ballooned amid the coronavirus pandemic now have more wealth than half the nation’s population, new data show.
The poorest 50 percent of Americans, or roughly 165 million people, collectively owned about $2.08 trillion in wealth in the second quarter of 2020, according to Federal Reserve data released last week.
That’s less than the net worth of the nation’s 59 richest billionaires, who have a combined fortune of about $2.09 trillion, Bloomberg’s Billionaires Index shows — a number that’s grown this year despite the COVID-19 crisis kneecapping the global economy.
Those elite tycoons are among the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans, who were worth a total of $34.23 trillion in the second quarter — meaning they were more than 16 times richer than the nation’s poorest 50 percent, the Fed’s figures reveal. They include Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos, Microsoft founder Bill Gates and Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg.
The data suggest the stock market plays a key role in the massive wealth gap. Stock prices soared to record highs in recent months even though the pandemic had put millions of people out of work and sparked a record contraction in the US economy.
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