Johnson Admits That Shutdown Is About ACA Premiums

[22lcidw]

You guys tried to do that years ago but you never had a better alternative.

Remember, Trump’s plan was due in “2 weeks”, but that was like 7 years ago.

What about your plans? It is not sustainable as the years go by.

 

[Marener]

What about your plans? It is not sustainable as the years go by.

We are covering 40 million people with the ACA. Kicking them off would collapse the healthcare system and harm a lot of people.

 

[martybegan]

We are covering 40 million people with the ACA. Kicking them off would collapse the healthcare system and harm a lot of people.

They wouldn't be kicked off, they would have to pay the premiums that were being subsidized due to COVID, and COVID is no longer a pandemic.

 

[Marener]

They wouldn't be kicked off, they would have to pay the premiums that were being subsidized due to COVID, and COVID is no longer a pandemic.

Without the ACA, insurance companies go back to all the systems that kept people from getting insurance due to preexisting conditions.

 

[Nostra]

So you folks now admit that this IS about keeping ACA premiums lower

You now shift to attacking it with no viable alternative

I suppose that’s a start

Why does the ACA need trillions in tax dollars. Barry said it would pay for itself, and we would all save $2500 per year.

 

[Nostra]

This would have been different if the GQP had said "we've been working with health insurers behind the scenes, they've been recalibrating their plans and premiums to match the new situation, and the people of America can rest easy about their health insurance".

But no, this is the "shoot first and ask questions later" administration. The above would require too much planning, effort and critical thinking.

Barrycare was a sham from the start. Why does it need trillions in tax dollars when Barry said it would pay for itself ?

 

[Nostra]

At least you folks are finally being honest as to what this shutdown is about

Glad those other lies have been put to rest

Yes, Schumer shut down the government to spend trillions more on Barrycare and cover illegals.

Next?

 

[Nostra]

Horseshit. The idea was to reduce medical cost inflation (success) while insuring more people (success).

Lies.

Cost have skyrocketed even with trillions in tax dollars propping it up. And there are still 24 million uninsured. Barry said everyone would be covered and we would all save $2500 per year.

All lies, and you keep spewing them despite the facts.

 

[Nostra]

We are covering 40 million people with the ACA. Kicking them off would collapse the healthcare system and harm a lot of people.

Lies. There were an estimated 35-40 million uninsured before Barrycare. There are still 24 million uninsured.

 

[Woodznutz]

Wasn't obamadon'tcare functioning just fine before the Covid crisis subsidies?

Covid wiped out a lot of older high-cost patients, so healthcare costs should have declined.

 

[berg80]

It hardly reduced medical cost. It drove it up even further.

The pace of medical cost inflation slowed. Lowering MCI was never promised as it is unrealistic.

AI Overview

The ACA has led to a significant increase in insurance coverage, with the uninsured rate dropping from 14.4%14.4 % in 2013 to 7.9%7.9 % in 2023. This represents an increase of over 38 million people with health insurance coverage since 2013.

 

[22lcidw]

We are covering 40 million people with the ACA. Kicking them off would collapse the healthcare system and harm a lot of people.

I am calling the costs as they expand. And it is. If inflation is much lower than the yearly costs this cannot continue after a while.

 

[Delldude]

You guys tried to do that years ago but you never had a better alternative.

Remember, Trump’s plan was due in “2 weeks”, but that was like 7 years ago.

Yeah they did

 

[Delldude]

Covid wiped out a lot of older high-cost patients, so healthcare costs should have declined.

Kinda cool how they figured out putting infected people in old people care homes was a win win.

 

[Hafar1014]

The lie is about Obamascare. The issue at hand is expanded Medicaid coverage.

For illegals

 

[Darkwind]

So you folks now admit that this IS about keeping ACA premiums lower

You now shift to attacking it with no viable alternative

I suppose that’s a start

No, try again.

It is still about opening the government and that means a vote for the CR.

They can then go debate subsidies for the ACA AFTER the government is open.

NOT before.

 

[Woodznutz]

Kinda cool how they figured out putting infected people in old people care homes was a win win.

That's where old people go to die anyway. Life expectancy is pretty short after admission to nursing homes.

 

[Marener]

Yeah they did

Never did.

 

[ThisIsMe]

When you subsidize the health care system and you pay insurance companies more, the prices increase.”

As quoted by speaker johnson.

 

[Woodznutz]

No, try again.

It is still about opening the government and that means a vote for the CR.

They can then go debate subsidies for the ACA AFTER the government is open.

NOT before.

I believe the ball is in the court of the people. They should take better care of their health, and this problem will go away. I'm surprised that Bobby Jr. hasn't addressed this publicly.