Johnson Admits That Shutdown Is About ACA Premiums

[Billiejeens]

Yes, Schumer shut down the government to spend trillions more on Barrycare and cover illegals.

Next?

Do you know who was telling these loons differently?

 

[Delldude]

That's where old people go to die anyway. Life expectancy is pretty short after admission to nursing homes.

Regardless, it was quite Hitlerean in my book.

Government sponsored senicide.

These people knew what they were doing.

 

[Delldude]

Never did.

Nice try.

 

[Darkwind]

I believe the ball is in the court of the people. They should take better care of their health, and this problem will go away. I'm surprised that Bobby Jr. hasn't addressed this publicly.

A better start would be to do away with all insurance, except catastrophic insurance.

Pay for your drugs and doctor visits out of pocket.

As for health, until Big Pharma and Big Ag relax their grip on the FDA, Americans will never get healthy. Our entire diet needs revamping.

 

[Delldude]

A better start would be to do away with all insurance, except catastrophic insurance.

Pay for your drugs and doctor visits out of pocket.

As for health, until Big Pharma and Big Ag relax their grip on the FDA, Americans will never get healthy. Our entire diet needs revamping.

How about relaxing their grip on both houses.

 

[martybegan]

Without the ACA, insurance companies go back to all the systems that kept people from getting insurance due to preexisting conditions.

Unless the new law passed addresses that in not such a "we want this to fail so we can get socialized medicine" way that Obamacare was designed around.

 

[cnm]

Is that the new fearmongering? It will "Double" the premiums?

Why not get rid of it. It's been nothing but a failure since inception.

As for Johnson, he isn't lying. It is about a clean CR to keep the government open.

NOTHING gets added to it. Full stop.

I suppose because there is nothing to replace it. Perhaps in two weeks?

 

[cnm]

The Obamacare Atrocity was supposed to REDUCE costs for all Americans, that's what it was sold to the people by its author B. Hussein O.

Maybe its just time for the libs to give up the ghost on this abomination.

It isn't delivering the $2500 per family windfall that was promised

Congress had a bit to do with that.

 

[Lisa558]

I suppose because there is nothing to replace it. Perhaps in two weeks?

Let’s “replace” it with PRE-COVID Obamacare, with a 400% cap on subsidies. At least that would stem the outrageous cash going to prop up Obama’s main failure.

 

[berg80]

It is still about opening the government and that means a vote for the CR.

They can then go debate subsidies for the ACA AFTER the government is open.

Why don't the Repubs come to the bargaining table in good faith now? A compromise on subsidies opens the government back up.

 

[cnm]

I love the pretzels in which most/many Americans knot themselves by ignoring/denying/deflecting how well single payer systems serve the rest of the developed world.

 

[Delldude]

Why don't the Repubs come to the bargaining table in good faith now? A compromise on subsidies opens the government back up.

To be discussed after the cr passes.

 

[cnm]

Let’s “replace” it with PRE-COVID Obamacare, with a 400% cap on subsidies. At least that would stem the outrageous cash going to prop up Obama’s main failure.

Yeah.

Why should poor people live?

 

[Hellokitty]

So you folks now admit that this IS about keeping ACA premiums lower

You now shift to attacking it with no viable alternative

I suppose that’s a start

Why do dems expect the tax payers to pay more to keep premiums lower?
Why aren't dems going after the greedy hospitals/medical community and shouting about price gouging....
You all are sh!ting bricks whining about tariffs raising prices, yet don't see the problem with Obamacare needing over 50% cost subsidized?

 

[Darkwind]

Why don't the Repubs come to the bargaining table in good faith now? A compromise on subsidies opens the government back up.

We ARE at the table in good faith.

Wipe your runny nose, sit down and vote to open the government.

 

[martybegan]

Why don't the Repubs come to the bargaining table in good faith now? A compromise on subsidies opens the government back up.

The Dems waiting until the actual budget negotiations and allowing the CR to pass does the same thing.

 

[Marener]

Unless the new law passed addresses that in not such a "we want this to fail so we can get socialized medicine" way that Obamacare was designed around.

What new law? Saying they have to cover preexisting conditions but can charge people anything they want so it's unaffordable?

 

[Delldude]

Why do dems expect the tax payers to pay more to keep premiums lower?
Why aren't dems going after the greedy hospitals/medical community and shouting about price gouging....
You all are sh!ting bricks whining about tariffs raising prices, yet don't see the problem with Obamacare needing over 50% cost subsidized?

A lot of the costs the greedy HC community charge are for government forced low ball payments for services under Medicare and Medicaid.
Notice many don't participate in those programs now. There's the reason.

 

[martybegan]

What new law? Saying they have to cover preexisting conditions but can charge people anything they want so it's unaffordable?

The law that would replace Obamacare with something that might actually work instead of something designed to fail and pave the way towards government controlled healthcare.

 

[Marener]

The law that would replace Obamacare with something that might actually work instead of something designed to fail and pave the way towards government controlled healthcare.

Oh, your magical fantasy law that doesn't actually exist, right?