Joe McCarthy's HUAC Blacklisted Innocent Hollywood Writers and Actors

[CrusaderFrank]

Easy question

 

[regent]

McCarthy was a Senator but it was a House sub-committee that did old Joe in by letting him perform before a TV audience.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah, considering the H in HUAC stands for "House", it's not easy to link it with a senator.

HUAC's thoughtcrime witch hunt preceded and inspired McCarthy's. Mouth Runner Joe never had an original idea in his life; he just piled on when he saw opportunity.

The blacklisting had a lot more to do with Red Channels.

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This marvelously heartwarming ode to the First Amendment was put out by a right-wing John Bircher in 1950, piling on to the McCarthy's own piling-on hysteria, four months after Tale Teller Joe's speech to little old ladies about what he had in his hand.

Hard to believe this shit actually got taken seriously by anybody, but it did. And it was a lot more than "Hollywood", it was television, radio and music too.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Easy question

As already correctly noted, McCarthy was in the Senate, HUAC was not within his purview.

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Wasn't he a Beatle?

 

[PratchettFan]

Easy question

McCarthy was the chair of the Senate Committee on Government Operations, which included the sub-committee on investigations. That ended up the Senate's version of HUAC. However, in answer to your question, yes... innocent people were definitely black balled. In fact, assuming you don't think the government should be telling you what political positions you should be allowed to have, pretty much all of the black balled people were innocent.

 

[Pogo]

Wasn't he a Beatle?

Yeah, him and I think Jack Lemon, Rex Harrison and that drummer Rin Tin Tin.

 

[regent]

The greatest hoax, and I don't think McCarthy was involved, was the fluoridation of water thing in the fifties. Commies were putting fluoride in the water and it turned people's brains to mush, allowing them to be made into commies. Arguments by adults took place over the validity of the charges.

 

[Pogo]

The greatest hoax, and I don't think McCarthy was involved, was the fluoridation of water thing in the fifties. Commies were putting fluoride in the water and it turned people's brains to mush, allowing them to be made into commies. Arguments by adults took place over the validity of the charges.

Like Red Channels, that too was the John Birchers -- Fred Koch and his ilk. That was roughly conurrent with their witch-hunting of "communists" before they went on to fight the Civil Rights Act.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Easy question

McCarthy was the chair of the Senate Committee on Government Operations, which included the sub-committee on investigations. That ended up the Senate's version of HUAC. However, in answer to your question, yes... innocent people were definitely black balled. In fact, assuming you don't think the government should be telling you what political positions you should be allowed to have, pretty much all of the black balled people were innocent.

But McCarthy never even mentioned any Hollywood actors or writers, so who did he "Black ball"?

 

[Syriusly]

Easy question

McCarthy was the chair of the Senate Committee on Government Operations, which included the sub-committee on investigations. That ended up the Senate's version of HUAC. However, in answer to your question, yes... innocent people were definitely black balled. In fact, assuming you don't think the government should be telling you what political positions you should be allowed to have, pretty much all of the black balled people were innocent.

But McCarthy never even mentioned any Hollywood actors or writers, so who did he "Black ball"?

As noted at the beginning- HUAC was a House committee- and Joe was in the Senate- so from the beginning your question was a false question- however

The first systematic Hollywood blacklist was instituted on November 25, 1947, the day after ten writers and directors were cited for contempt of Congress for refusing to testify to the House Committee on Un-American Activities. A group ofstudio executives, acting under the aegis of the Motion Picture Association of America, fired the artists—the so-called Hollywood Ten—and made what has become known as the Waldorf Statement

 

[whitehall]

The U.S. government had no power to "blacklist" any citizen from engaging in lawful employment. It's ironic that the FDR administration actually incarcerated American citizens under the cover of an executive order but the radical left invented a gigantic fraudulent claim about "blacklisting" that overshadows even the illegal incarceration of Japanese Americans. History tells us that Communism was the greatest threat to America after WW2 and the democrat administration of Harry Truman created HUAC (House UnAmerican Activities Committee) to ferret out communist influence in American culture. The only power the various congressional committees had was to subpoena witnesses. Now here's the key, Hollywood blacklisted it's own because the movie moguls were afraid of losing money if employees were identified as communists and then the media managed to blame a single freaking republican for the inconvenience that the commie writers endured. The whole McCarthy (era) is the greatest left wing propaganda victory in history.

 

[Pogo]

... the media managed to blame a single freaking republican for the inconvenience that the commie writers endured. The whole McCarthy (era) is the greatest left wing propaganda victory in history.

"The media" didn't do that -- CrusaderFrank did with his trick question.
If McCarthyism was a "left wing propaganda victory" it can only be because its figurehead dug his own hole and buried himself. Or as Eisenhower called it when it fizzled out, "McCarthy-wasm"

 

[whitehall]

... the media managed to blame a single freaking republican for the inconvenience that the commie writers endured. The whole McCarthy (era) is the greatest left wing propaganda victory in history.

"The media" didn't do that -- CrusaderFrank did with his trick question.
If McCarthyism was a "left wing propaganda victory" it can only be because its figurehead dug his own hole and buried himself. Or as Eisenhower called it when it fizzled out, "McCarthy-wasm"

The notion that (republican) senator Joe McCarthy was the "figurehead" of the Truman administration's attempt to identify communist influence in America's social structure is in itself a victory for left wing propaganda efforts.

 

[Pogo]

... the media managed to blame a single freaking republican for the inconvenience that the commie writers endured. The whole McCarthy (era) is the greatest left wing propaganda victory in history.

"The media" didn't do that -- CrusaderFrank did with his trick question.
If McCarthyism was a "left wing propaganda victory" it can only be because its figurehead dug his own hole and buried himself. Or as Eisenhower called it when it fizzled out, "McCarthy-wasm"

The notion that (republican) senator Joe McCarthy was the "figurehead" of the Truman administration's attempt to identify communist influence in America's social structure is in itself a victory for left wing propaganda efforts.

He didn't start the fire, but he certainly piled on in the quest for egomania. When you get that bombastic about what you pile on to, your image is going to become the image of that cause. And it came back to bite him in the ass. That's why one has to choose one's battles wisely.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

... the media managed to blame a single freaking republican for the inconvenience that the commie writers endured. The whole McCarthy (era) is the greatest left wing propaganda victory in history.

"The media" didn't do that -- CrusaderFrank did with his trick question.
If McCarthyism was a "left wing propaganda victory" it can only be because its figurehead dug his own hole and buried himself. Or as Eisenhower called it when it fizzled out, "McCarthy-wasm"

Here's what actually happened: In early 1950, 6 months after the USSR tried to start WWIII in Berlin and 4 months before ChiComs were killing US Soldiers and Marines, McCarthy claimed that many people in the Administration were in fact Communist spies. Because he was right and actually somewhat understated the extent of the infiltration, he was subject to a vicious counter assault from the Communist spies and sympathizers throughout the American media and political structure. He never had a single person in Hollywood or the arts Blacklisted. That was a whole other Committee in the US House that started ages before McCarthy even came to town. In other words, the Progressive Big Lie is that McCarthy started "McCarthyism" years BEFORE his first speech

A full court campaign was started to discredit McCarthy's understated warning that many in the government were working for Stalin and Mao. I grew up believing it but it turns out to be a Progressive Big Lie that would make Gobbels proud

Blacklisted by History The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy -- M Stanton Evans US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

 

[Pogo]

Oh horseshit. Your own thread implied that a Senator was somehow a part of the House. Man up and admit it.

 

[Staidhup]

Someone actually knows the history of the period. In fact one of the most staunch anti communists was non other than that of JFK. So Alger Hiss and Whittaker Chambers were not communist sympathizers? not according to the KGB and GRU. All a plot hatched by the evil right wing, haha

 

[whitehall]

The bottom line is that everyone knows that the federal government does not have the Constitutional authority to "blacklist" anyone from legal employment. The myth is still promoted, mostly by the radical left and their low information minions, that a single republican senator who didn't even head a committee in a democrat controlled congress somehow blacklisted the poor commies who worked for H'wood moguls.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Oh horseshit. Your own thread implied that a Senator was somehow a part of the House. Man up and admit it.

Admit what?

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