Joe Biden's Covid death toll passes 400,000

[struth]

Of course Flynn was convicted. And he was pardoned. You really have no idea what you're talking about.

And again, a president would have no need to pardon anyone if they could just order the DoJ to drop charges.

And again, according to you, Trump lied about election fraud since his DoJ said ghey hadn't found any widespread fraud which would overturn the election.

um no he was not convicted...what are you even talking about? There was never a trial....the DOJ moved to dismiss the case after the Mueller team was forced to turn over all the brady evidence.

Geez...you are clueless

The DOJ did move to drop the charges....

The pardon power, as I highlighted has a propose, because it keeps future admins from bringing the charges back

I don't disagree there wasn't widespread fraud...trump never claimed widespread fraud either

 

[Faun]

um no he was not convicted...what are you even talking about? There was never a trial....the DOJ moved to dismiss the case after the Mueller team was forced to turn over all the brady evidence.

Geez...you are clueless

The DOJ did move to drop the charges....

The pardon power, as I highlighted has a propose, because it keeps future admins from bringing the charges back

I don't disagree there wasn't widespread fraud...trump never claimed widespread fraud either

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes, Flynn was convicted...

​

... and yes, Trump claimed there was widespread fraud...

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims Widespread Fraud In Latest Election Speech

President Trump spoke from the White House briefing room on Thursday night as the presidential race remains tight and uncalled, falsely claiming that Democrats were trying to rig the election.

www.npr.org

 

[struth]

You really have no idea what you're talking about.

Yes, Flynn was convicted...

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... and yes, Trump claimed there was widespread fraud...

FACT CHECK: Trump Falsely Claims Widespread Fraud In Latest Election Speech

President Trump spoke from the White House briefing room on Thursday night as the presidential race remains tight and uncalled, falsely claiming that Democrats were trying to rig the election.

www.npr.org

hahha that was a plea hearing, witch was withdrawn before the Court convicted and sentenced him...the DOJ then moved to dismiss.

Geez.

Yes, Trump pardoned him, after he lost the election, to keep the next admin from being able to prosecute him.

The President has that much control over the DOJ...as Art 2 Section 1 highlights, the power of the executive vest in A President...nobody else....just a President. He has total control over enforcing federal law.

 

[Faun]

hahha that was a plea hearing, witch was withdrawn before the Court convicted and sentenced him...the DOJ then moved to dismiss.

Geez.

Yes, Trump pardoned him, after he lost the election, to keep the next admin from being able to prosecute him.

The President has that much control over the DOJ...as Art 2 Section 1 highlights, the power of the executive vest in A President...nobody else....just a President. He has total control over enforcing federal law.

Holy shit.

Moron, a defendant is convicted when they plead guilty. And no, his guilty plea was never withdrawn. Flynn filed a motion to withdraw but the judge rejected it.

You really have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

And no, they have no such control over the DoJ. If they did, Barr would not have said no widespread fraud had been found.

 

[struth]

Holy shit.

Moron, a defendant is convicted when they plead guilty.

You really have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

And no, they have no such control over the DoJ. If they did, Barr would not have said no widespread fraud had been found.

hahaha no they aren't! it's a plea hearing...they aren't convicted until sentencing dumbass

Geez.,

Yes, they do...I literally just sent you the text from the US Constitution.

The DOJ is part of the executive branch, and exist only to help the President, who has all the executive power, to fulfill he's job.

Geez....

 

[Faun]

hahaha no they aren't! it's a plea hearing...they aren't convicted until sentencing dumbass

Geez.,

Yes, they do...I literally just sent you the text from the US Constitution.

The DOJ is part of the executive branch, and exist only to help the President, who has all the executive power, to fulfill he's job.

Geez....

LOLOL

Holy fuck, are you ever retarded.

A defendant is convicted when they're found guilty. According to you, judges sentence people to jail who have not been convicted.

 

[struth]

LOLOL

Holy fuck, are you ever retarded.

A defendant is convicted when they're found guilty. According to you, judges sentence people to jail who have not been convicted.

No, they get convicted at the sentencing hear.

The judge can take a plea, at a plea hearing...and delay the sentencing hear, as they did here.

It's really not that complex...hence why he can withdraw his plea, as he did, before the Judge accepted it...and the DOJ can move to dismiss, as the DOJ did here, before he was convicted.

 

[Faun]

No, they get convicted at the sentencing hear.

The judge can take a plea, at a plea hearing...and delay the sentencing hear, as they did here.

It's really not that complex...hence why he can withdraw his plea, as he did, before the Judge accepted it...and the DOJ can move to dismiss, as the DOJ did here, before he was convicted.

Moron...

Conviction

A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant’s guilt; specifically, it is the act or judicial process of finding a criminal defendant guilty of a charged offense.​

You'll note there's nothing in there about sentencing. Sentencing occurs after a defendant is convicted, not before. Again, we don't sentence non-convincted people to jail. That's just absurd.

And the judge never accepted Flynn's plea to withdraw. That's yet more you don't know anything about.

 

[struth]

Moron...

Conviction​

​

A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant’s guilt; specifically, it is the act or judicial process of finding a criminal defendant guilty of a charged offense.​

You'll note there's nothing in there about sentencing. Sentencing occurs after a defendant is convicted, not before. Again, we don't sentence non-convincted people to jail. That's just absurd.

And the judge never accepted Flynn's plea to withdraw. That's yet more you don't know anything about.

i k is what it is, flynn was never adjudicated guilty

he entered a plea, the judge and doj delayed adjudication and sentencing

please stop acting like you have a clue

especially when you are over here suggesting the DOj has some secret independent power of the executive branch

 

[Brick Gold]

The plandemic was going to happen no matter what. Since the election was also rigged you could say that theyre using his name as a rubber stamp to officiate the plandemic for Biden. Regardless of who has the seat, everything would have played the same. So truly, I wouldnt blame since its all a setup.

 

[Faun]

i k is what it is, flynn was never adjudicated guilty

he entered a plea, the judge and doj delayed adjudication and sentencing

please stop acting like you have a clue

I can do this all day until you learn...

Conviction

A guilty plea results in conviction. By pleading guilty, the defendant admits to all elements of the crimes to which he is pleading. Likewise, the defendant admits that all material facts alleged in the charges are true. Therefore, a guilty plea serves as an adjudication on the merits of a case.​

especially when you are over here suggesting the DOj has some secret independent power of the executive branch

LOL

Idiot...

if the president controls the Justice Department, there never would have been a Mueller investigation.

 

[struth]

I can do this all day until you learn...

Conviction​

​

A guilty plea results in conviction. By pleading guilty, the defendant admits to all elements of the crimes to which he is pleading. Likewise, the defendant admits that all material facts alleged in the charges are true. Therefore, a guilty plea serves as an adjudication on the merits of a case.​

LOL

Idiot...

if the president controls the Justice Department, there never would have been a Mueller investigation.

yes a guilty plea will more then likely end up in a conviction.

But he took a plea, he was not adjudicated guilty...that happens often as well. Because the Court delayed the hearing to get a presentence report, and the DOJ wanted or thought they could use him for other stuff...that was delayed....during that time frame he moved to withdraw his plea, and got new attorneys, and the Brady evidence was turned over

He was never convicted....please if you think he was provide us with the transcript where he was found guilty.

This really isn't hard to grasp....if you are willing to accept reality.

 

[Faun]

yes a guilty plea will more then likely end up in a conviction.

But he took a plea, he was not adjudicated guilty...that happens often as well. Because the Court delayed the hearing to get a presentence report, and the DOJ wanted or thought they could use him for other stuff...that was delayed....during that time frame he moved to withdraw his plea, and got new attorneys, and the Brady evidence was turned over

LOL

Your tenacity to cling to stupidity is amusing...

Therefore, a guilty plea serves as an adjudication on the merits of a case.

A conviction is an adjudication of a criminal defendant’s guilt;

He was never convicted....please if you think he was provide us with the transcript where he was found guilty.

He was found guilty when he pleaded guilty.

Flynn pleads guilty to lying to the FBI

The charge brings the criminal case into the Trump White House and raises questions about who else in the administration Mueller could be eyeing.

www.politico.com

The guilty plea, accepted by a federal court in Washington Friday morning...​

 

[billyerock123]

So, law enforcement only catches the crimes that actually take place....interesting theory....but very naive....

what's naive is your answer ... here's the problem with your pathetic response ... not only have republicans looked into it so has democrats, so has every lawyer and judge .... there's no violation there... wishful thinking on your part ... you see trump's complain was about mail-in ballots... his complaint was they ran them through many times and they had forged ballots ... this is where your naive runs into trouble ... on every mail-in ballot there is an SKU number... when the ballot arrives they send them through the counter then counter reads the SKU number ...it can only go through once ...if a person tries to run it through a second time the ballot is kicked out and not counted... so there goes your naive remark again ...even if they ran it through 10 times that will never happen because of the SKU number.... the forged document it too has to have a SKU number on it if it is a copy of your ballot it will kick the forged ballot out to determine why it got kicked out ... there's your second protection for mail-in ballots now whos the naive one... that would be you ...

 

[billyerock123]

i’m not sure where you are getting this only 10 votes were found crap…

regardless…what about the ones not found?

irregardless…what’s the big issue if you are gonna win? why are you so opposed to people having to prove who they are and that they can vote?

answer ed once is enough ...

 

[billyerock123]

Holy shit.

Moron, a defendant is convicted when they plead guilty. And no, his guilty plea was never withdrawn. Flynn filed a motion to withdraw but the judge rejected it.

You really have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.

And no, they have no such control over the DoJ. If they did, Barr would not have said no widespread fraud had been found.

he deals in half-truths to justify his post ...

 

[Turtlesoup]

thats because you don't know what fascist is ... let me make myself very clear ... fascist hate democrats and liberals ... in a fascist state they are killing democrats and liberals ... so Biden, Obama, nancy, would never be known as fascist ... you republicans prove every day how stupid you really are ...

Fascists hate democrats and liberals? What are you smoking? Democrats and liberals are FASCIST--look at the lock downs for proof of this nonsense. Fascism is the forceful suppression of any opposition---the dems have corrupted the DOJ and IRS to go after political enemies...you just don't get any more fascist than that.

Oh and FYI-------Pelosi set up and then covered for her capital police to kill atleast 1 woman and probably a second on 1/6.

 

[struth]

what's naive is your answer ... here's the problem with your pathetic response ... not only have republicans looked into it so has democrats, so has every lawyer and judge .... there's no violation there... wishful thinking on your part ... you see trump's complain was about mail-in ballots... his complaint was they ran them through many times and they had forged ballots ... this is where your naive runs into trouble ... on every mail-in ballot there is an SKU number... when the ballot arrives they send them through the counter then counter reads the SKU number ...it can only go through once ...if a person tries to run it through a second time the ballot is kicked out and not counted... so there goes your naive remark again ...even if they ran it through 10 times that will never happen because of the SKU number.... the forged document it too has to have a SKU number on it if it is a copy of your ballot it will kick the forged ballot out to determine why it got kicked out ... there's your second protection for mail-in ballots now whos the naive one... that would be you ...

yes and folks like say a court i. PA said the election was rigged

 

[billyerock123]

Fascists hate democrats and liberals? What are you smoking? Democrats and liberals are FASCIST--look at the lock downs for proof of this nonsense. Fascism is the forceful suppression of any opposition---the dems have corrupted the DOJ and IRS to go after political enemies...you just don't get any more fascist than that.

Oh and FYI-------Pelosi set up and then covered for her capital police to kill atleast 1 woman and probably a second on 1/6.

this is how stupid Republicans are... The House and Senate sergeants-at-arms, who are nominated by each chamber’s leader and elected by chamber members, serve as the Capitol’s chief law enforcement officers for their respective chambers. Each makes decisions for the Capitol Police Board, which oversees the Capitol’s police force in concert with several House and Senate committees, including one on which Davis sits.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker just as the Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, but there is no indication Pelosi controls day-to-day security operations. So we reached out to Davis’ office to ask what he was talking about.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the House speaker just as the Senate sergeant-at-arms reports to the Senate majority leader, but there is no indication Pelosi controls day-to-day security operations. So we reached out to Davis’ office to ask what he was talking about.


Citing a Feb. 1 letter from Sund to Pelosi, Davis spokesman Aaron DeGroot responded in an email that the former police chief “alone could not request National Guard support because he ‘had no authority to do so without an Emergency Declaration by the Capitol Police Board.’ Requesting National Guard support is a major security decision, and it’s one that even the Speaker’s office admits they were involved in.”


That description is accurate. According to a bipartisan Senate report on the Jan. 6 attack, the Capitol police chief “has no unilateral authority to request assistance from the National Guard” and “must submit a request for assistance to the Capitol Police Board for approval.” Likewise, as DeGroot noted, Pelosi’s office has said Irving did request the speaker’s permission to call on the National Guard.


However, those facts do not prove Pelosi made all the calls on how Sund, Irving, and the other members of the Capitol Police Board responded to the crisis — most notably because then-Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger, who reported to then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell at the time, also played an active role.


As Sund noted in his letter to Pelosi, the police chief “notified the two Sergeant at Arms” around 1 p.m. on Jan. 6 that he “urgently needed support.” Despite confusion over the statutory process for requesting National Guard assistance, both Irving and Stenger eventually approved Sund’s request to call for backup at 2:10 p.m., according to the Senate report.


Prior to that approval being granted, the New York Times reported, aides to both congressional leaders “were perplexed to learn that the two sergeants-at-arms had not yet approved the request for troops, according to spokesmen for Mr. McConnell and Ms. Pelosi.”

“The speaker expects security professionals to make security decisions and to be informed of those decisions,” Pelosi spokesman Drew Hammill told the Times.

Our ruling​

Davis said “we know that the speaker’s office was calling the shots on all of” the actions taken by the officials in charge of Capitol security on Jan. 6.


As evidence, his office highlighted the fact that then-House Sergeant-at-Arms Irving requested approval from Pelosi before greenlighting the Capitol police chief’s request to call in the National Guard.


But Davis and his spokesman ignored a critical detail: the decision to approve that request and call for backup was not Irving’s call alone. It was made in conjunction with the Senate sergeant-at-arms, who reports to the Senate majority leader. At the time, that was McConnell.


those are the facts

 

[billyerock123]

yes and folks like say a court i. PA said the election was rigged

nobody from the state said the election was rigged period ...they all said, not some, but all of them said the election was not rigged and they had no evidence it was ... what you are doing here is lying to save face ... right now we are finding out that Trump and his administration were going out to the states and filing to the state forged documents say they were electoral votes from all those states ... they were forged documents ... sign by republicans ...the AG barr said there was no evidence ... he became aware they were going to start taking voting machines offline ... each and every day we are finding what trump was doing by trying to take over the government ... I can't wait for the house to start airing the January 6 hearings in primetime where we all will see how Trump was trying to turn this government into an oligarchy ... you don't realize how close we came to be a communist country ...if pence said the election was a fraud and all these forged documents started showing up we all would lose our freedoms ...