Jews, Israel push to ban alternative views of Holocaust on Internet

[Sunni Man]

 

[Hollie]

The International Red Cross was stationed in all German labour, internment, concentration and prison camps throughout World War Two. The Red Cross were never given access to any Russian camps before, during or after World War Two. At his trials in Canada, during the 1980s and 1990s, Professor Ernst Zundel finally got the Red Cross to release their records from the German camps despite strong Israeli objections. The Red Cross records seem to suggest that there were no gas chambers, and a total of 271,301 died during World War Two in these camps, mostly from typhus.

In a letter to the US State Department dated November 22nd 1944 The Red Cross, who were stationed in all the camps, stated : “We have not been able to discover any trace of installations for exterminating civilian prisoners.”
Holocaust Or Holohoax 05: Twenty-One Amazing Facts

A cut and paste from someone's personal blog.

It's remarkable how "pointless" seems to define your every cut and pasted / plagiarized post.

 

[fanger]

Wheres your personal blog little old Lady?

 

[Hollie]

Wheres your personal blog little old Lady?

I knew you would shuffle off.

 

[fanger]

Hey, them dill pickles are for eating, not..... oh well no one will eat them now

 

[Roudy]

One of the best ways to fight antisemitism is to tell these free speech hating assholes to fuck off and to become active to remove all holocaust denial laws from so called free nations. There is absolutely no need at all for these ridiculous laws, let alone locking up scholars and historians for researching and then writing about what they have learned.

Truth needs no laws to define it and actually serves quite the opposite purpose.

One of the most disgusting vile antisemites on this board, giving advice on how to fight antisemtism. Achmed must be taking a swipe at comedy while breaking his Ramadan fast. Epic fail.

 

[Roudy]

*sigh* This again.
There is no doubt that Jewish Germans were persecuted in Germany in the 1930’s, including incarceration, brutality and killings, a fact that is beyond rational dispute. There is no doubt that Hitler and his regime wanted all Jewish Germans to leave Germany one way or another, this is evident from contemporary speeches, documents and other recorded events. There is no doubt that after the invasions of Poland and the USSR, the Germans found themselves in control of large native Jewish populations and it is a fact that by 1945 large numbers of these people, along with political prisoners, homosexuals, gypsies and others had been killed or had died whilst under German control.

After the war, the surviving perpetrators were tried and convicted of crimes against Humanity and the survivors from all the above groups either returned home or migrated to other countries to make new lives for themselves and until the 1960’s nobody really cared about what had happened.

Then, as Norman Fincklestein states, a Holocaust™ Industry was created to bolster American support for their “bulwark” against the “Muslim-Communist” hordes (that was before they were re-titled “Islamo-facsists” after the fall of the USSR), Israel.

He states, amongst other things..."Holocaust awareness," the respected Israeli writer Boas Evron observes, is actually "an official propagandistic indoctrination, a churning out of slogans and a false view of the world, the real aim of which is not at all an understanding of the past, but a manipulation of the present." In and of itself, the Nazi holocaust does not serve any particular political agenda. It can just as easily motivate dissent from as support for Israeli policy. Refracted through an ideological prism, however, "the memory of the Nazi extermination" came to serve — in Evron's words — "as a powerful tool in the hands of the Israeli leadership and Jews abroad. The Nazi holocaust became The Holocaust.

Two central dogmas underpin the Holocaust framework:
(1) The Holocaust marks a categorically unique historical event;
(2) The Holocaust marks the climax of an irrational, eternal Gentile hatred of Jews.

Neither of these dogmas figured at all in public discourse before the June 1967 war; and, although they became the centerpieces of Holocaust literature, neither figures at all in genuine scholarship on the Nazi holocaust. On the other hand, both dogmas draw on important strands in Judaism and Zionism.

In the aftermath of World War II, the Nazi holocaust was not cast as a uniquely Jewish — let alone a historically unique — event. Organized American Jewry in particular was at pains to place it in a universalist context. After the June war, however, the Nazi Final Solution was radically reframed. "The first and most important claim that emerged from the 1967 war and became emblematic of American Judaism," Jacob Neusner recalls, was that "the Holocaust . . . was unique, without parallel in human history." In an illuminating essay, historian David Stannard ridicules the "small industry of Holocaust hagiographers arguing for the uniqueness of the Jewish experience with all the energy and ingenuity of theological zealots." The uniqueness dogma, after all, makes no sense.”

I personally have no doubt that huge numbers of innocents, regardless of their religious affiliation or ethnicity were murdered by the Nazi regime, before and during WW2 and this subject 60 years on, needs researching objectively in depth. This cannot happen if there are laws made that stifle such research. If people want to deny this ever happened, fine, but they should be able to present their evidence and those who disagree with them should be able to refute their arguments. That way we will eventually get at what actually happened.

Those who use Holocaust denial as an excuse to vent their hatred of Jewish people or to promote neo-Nazism, by whitewashing the past are a separate case entirely, but does criminalising them really help? Much better to ridicule them, in my view. Holocaust Denial is as bad as the Holocaust industry that promotes it. Laws that deny the deniers, only serve to strengthen their arguments; fortunately there are still 184 countries in the world that don’t have Holocaust denial laws.

And.......yup, nobody read that shit.

 

[K9Buck]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

My father's entire family were killed in the Holocaust. His niece was smashed against a tree and had her head bashed out. Prior to that, when the family had been in hiding, the little girl asked the kind Gentile who hid them, "Why can the cat go outside but not us?" My dad's father and mother and little brother were evacuated to a concentration camp. My dad could not talk about them without choking up. One of his sisters committed suicide. The other sister and brother-in-law joined the partisans, but they were eventually caught and executed. Anyway, what does this disgusting Holocaust denial have to do with the I/P conflict?

did his niece look like this?

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gaza child head blown off - Google Search:
Israelis did this

What does a child in Gaza have to do with my father's niece? Both are tragic.

 

[ForeverYoung436]

My father's entire family were killed in the Holocaust. His niece was smashed against a tree and had her head bashed out. Prior to that, when the family had been in hiding, the little girl asked the kind Gentile who hid them, "Why can the cat go outside but not us?" My dad's father and mother and little brother were evacuated to a concentration camp. My dad could not talk about them without choking up. One of his sisters committed suicide. The other sister and brother-in-law joined the partisans, but they were eventually caught and executed. Anyway, what does this disgusting Holocaust denial have to do with the I/P conflict?

How would you know that and even if true, which I doubt based on the fact you lie here regulary, let's not forget who started that war...

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The Jewish Declaration of War
on Nazi Germany
The Economic Boycott of 1933

Article from The Barnes Review, Jan./Feb. 2001, pp. 41-45.
The Barnes Review, 645 Pennsylvania Ave SE, Suite 100, Washington D.C. 20003, USA.
By M. Raphael Johnson, Ph.D., assistant editor of TBR;
published here with kind permission from TBR.
This digitized version © 2002 by The Scriptorium.

Few people know the facts about the singular event that helped spark what ultimately became known as World War II - the international Jewish declaration of war on Germany shortly after Adolf Hitler came to power and well before any official German government sanctions or reprisals against Jews were carried out. The March 24, 1933 issue of The Daily Express of London (shown above) described how Jewish leaders, in combination with powerful international Jewish financial interests, had launched a boycott of Germany for the express purpose of crippling her already precarious economy in the hope of bringing down the new Hitler regime. It was only then that Germany struck back in response. Thus, if truth be told, it was the worldwide Jewish leadership - not the Third Reich - that effectively fired the first shot in the Second World War. Prominent New York attorney Samuel Untermyer (above right) was one of the leading agitators in the war against Germany, describing the Jewish campaign as nothing less than a "holy war."
Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime.


The Jewish Declaration of War on Nazi Germany: The Economic Boycott of 1933. M. Raphael Johnson, Ph.D.

First of all, I do not lie. I state my opinions. Secondly, my dad somehow got separated from his family during the War. When he returned to Poland afterwards, he received most of the information about what happened to his family from a Polish neighbor, Felix, who had taken upon himself to hide my dad's family. He also received some info from Yad VaShem. And again I ask--what this has got to do with the I/P conflict?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

And yet the one who created this thread about the Holocaust, on a Board dedicated to the I/P conflict was not a Jew, but fanger, who is an anti-Semite.

 

[Challenger]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

Fine, so put them straight with evidence to the contrary, rather than by making laws against them. All you do is drive them underground but you'll never defeat their ideas that way.

 

[K9Buck]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

Fine, so put them straight with evidence to the contrary, rather than by making laws against them. All you do is drive them underground but you'll never defeat their ideas that way.

It's not the right that's trying to silence the speech of morons like fanger.

 

[Roudy]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

Fine, so put them straight with evidence to the contrary, rather than by making laws against them. All you do is drive them underground but you'll never defeat their ideas that way.

It's not the right that's trying to silence the speech of morons like fanger.

I agree, let the world judge how psychotic these antisemites can be.

But it's not up to us. The countries that took part in the Holocaust and know that it happened have created these laws.

I find it extremely entertaining and ludicrous that these antisemites and IslamoNazis are telling the Germans about their history and what actually happened!

 

[Bleipriester]

I wonder if I will survive the Holocaust.

 

[Roudy]

I wonder if I will survive the Holocaust.

You're a bigmouth Syrian refugee with ties to Assad's regime hiding in Germany. What Holocaust are you talking about?

 

[Challenger]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

Fine, so put them straight with evidence to the contrary, rather than by making laws against them. All you do is drive them underground but you'll never defeat their ideas that way.

It's not the right that's trying to silence the speech of morons like fanger.

Never said it was, nor is Fanger a moron or a bigot, however you've posted nothing to refute any of his allegations. Calling him a moron, is a waste of time and effort without demonstrating what he says is "moronic" or "bigotted", that's my point.

 

[K9Buck]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

Fine, so put them straight with evidence to the contrary, rather than by making laws against them. All you do is drive them underground but you'll never defeat their ideas that way.

It's not the right that's trying to silence the speech of morons like fanger.

Never said it was, nor is Fanger a moron or a bigot, however you've posted nothing to refute any of his allegations. Calling him a moron, is a waste of time and effort without demonstrating what he says is "moronic" or "bigotted", that's my point.

If he's not a bigot them bigotry has never existed.

 

[Challenger]

There are a lot of bigots like this fanger idiot here.

Fine, so put them straight with evidence to the contrary, rather than by making laws against them. All you do is drive them underground but you'll never defeat their ideas that way.

It's not the right that's trying to silence the speech of morons like fanger.

Never said it was, nor is Fanger a moron or a bigot, however you've posted nothing to refute any of his allegations. Calling him a moron, is a waste of time and effort without demonstrating what he says is "moronic" or "bigotted", that's my point.

If he's not a bigot them bigotry has never existed.

That's a very bigotted view...

 

[Bleipriester]

I wonder if I will survive the Holocaust.

You're a bigmouth Syrian refugee with ties to Assad's regime hiding in Germany. What Holocaust are you talking about?

My German holo-guilt weighs so heavy on my shoulders, I fear the breakdown is not far away.