Zone1 Who created all things?

onefour1:

the word godhead is a fabrication that showed up in an English translation of the Bible 1,500 years after the Bible was written.


Alter2Ego
Well, the word godhead implies that which makes up God. If we look at the Greek for Colossians 2:9 we get the word "Θεότητος" or Theotētos which is translated as "Diety". The word Diety and Godhead are synonymous. Their meanings are the same. The verse is telling us that Jesus had the fulness of the Diety or Godhead within him.

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Figidweirdo:

It's because energy is a creation, meaning it required a creator.


Alter2Ego

And how do you "know" this?

Any evidence it was created?

And what is God then? If God can create things, he must be something that needed to be created.

If not, then energy doesn't need to have been created

frigidweirdo:

It's known by the fact that energy does not occur on its own; it requires a force to produce it. For instance, below is how energy is produced in the United States according to one source. Focus on the words bolded in red.

"Primary energy sources include fossil fuels (petroleum, natural gas, and coal), nuclear energy, and renewable sources of energy. Electricity is a secondary energy source that is generated (produced) from primary energy sources.."




Alter2Ego
 
And how do you "know" this?

Any evidence it was created?


And what is God then? If God can create things, he must be something that needed to be created.

If not, then energy doesn't need to have been created

frigidweirdo:

Scripture makes it clear that Almighty God Jehovah has always existed.


Psalm 90:2

"Before the mountains were born Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, From everlasting to everlasting, you are God."


FYI: Almighty God is not "something." He is someone.



Alter2Ego
 
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onefour1:

the word godhead is a fabrication that showed up in an English translation of the Bible 1,500 years after the Bible was written.


Alter2Ego


Well, the word godhead implies that which makes up God. If we look at the Greek for Colossians 2:9 we get the word "Θεότητος" or Theotētos which is translated as "Diety". The word Diety and Godhead are synonymous. Their meanings are the same. The verse is telling us that Jesus had the fulness of the Diety or Godhead within him.

onefour1:

I don't care what it implies. The word godhead is a fabricated word that doesn't belong in the Judeo-Christian Bible. What is it about that don't you get?



Alter2Ego
 
onefour1:

I don't care what it implies. The word godhead is a fabricated word that doesn't belong in the Judeo-Christian Bible. What is it about that don't you get?



Alter2Ego
You say the word is fabricated. What do you mean by that? The word "Godhead" has a specific meaning in English and means the head gods or deity. It has the same meaning as the Deity. The word that is translated as "Deity" or "Godhead" is "Θεότητος" or "Theotētos" which is translated by some as Deity and others as Godhead. They have basically the same meaning. So are you claiming that the original Greek text does not have the word, "Θεότητος" or "Theotētos"? What exactly is your argument? From what can find, the original Greek does have the word "Θεότητος" or "Theotētos"!

Colossians 2:9​

9 ὅτι ἐν αὐτῷ κατοικεῖ πᾶν τὸ πλήρωμα τῆς θεότητος σωματικῶς,

For in him all the fullness of the Deity dwells bodily,

This is from Colossians 2:9 - Original Greek Text
 
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frigidweirdo:

It's known by the fact that energy does not occur on its own; it requires a force to produce it. For instance, below is how energy is produced in the United States according to one source. Focus on the words bolded in red.

"Primary energy sources include fossil fuels (petroleum, natural gas, and coal), nuclear energy, and renewable sources of energy. Electricity is a secondary energy source that is generated (produced) from primary energy sources.."




Alter2Ego

Not really what you understand by the term "energy" here.

Atoms are most likely made up of energy. That's all they are. An atom will have various parts of energy that have different functions, most likely based on the way they move (in waves).

So when you have "energy sources", the energy isn't being created, it's being transferred.

So when you have a fire, all that's happening is that energy is going from the wood, or whatever is burning, and it's becoming light, it's becoming heat, it's moving from one thing and going elsewhere.

When you put your hands near the fire, that energy is being transferred to other atoms, like the atoms in your hand and those atoms are then moving faster in your hand because of that transfer of energy.

So, essentially if there were a "Big Bang", chances are that what happened was just a HUGE transfer of energy.

A short while after any supposed Big Bang, that energy formed into atoms because it cooled enough for that energy to be stable enough to be an atom, before that it was just very fast moving energy that wasn't stable.

Nothing suggests this energy was made by some mythical being. How would a God create energy?
 
frigidweirdo:

Scripture makes it clear that Almighty God Jehovah has always existed.


Psalm 90:2

"Before the mountains were born Or you brought forth the earth and the productive land, From everlasting to everlasting, you are God."


FYI: Almighty God is not "something." He is someone.



Alter2Ego
Harry Potter is pretty clear that Quidditch is played by wizards.....

Doesn't mean it's true.
 

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