Jesus Was A Capitalist

[PoliticalChic]

he was just another man like anyone else

So you're a government school grad?

 

[initforme]

Proverbs..he who hastens to be rich will not go unpunished.

 

[Erinwltr]

Jesus is a Fag. And a Capitalist. Figure that one out, PC.

 

[harmonica]

he was just another man like anyone else

So you're a government school grad?

hahahh I went to a pre-seminary high school
please prove jesus was not a man--not human

 

[PoliticalChic]

Jesus would not be a Capitalist or a Marxist and would be very upset that his teachings have been twisted for Political gain from any side...

Jesus was above politics and his teachings should be taken to heart but alas so many are blind why do I preach...

I'm gonna prove quite the opposite......stay with the thread.

No, you are going to prove Mac correct because Jesus did not care about your wealth or status but about your soul.

Why must radicals twist his teachings to fit their agenda.

As you wrote it is generosity that is the answer but remember hogging your money and saying mine is no better than a man who does not work and wishes to take society for granted...

Remember Greed is as much of a sin as Sloth...

Why don't you wait and see......


I'm pretty good at this.



But now I must go back to spinning straw into gold.....

 

[initforme]

We are to be rich in our faith and faith alone. We cannot serve big $$$$ and Jesus at the same time.

 

[harmonica]

he was just another man like anyone else

So you're a government school grad?

and what does that even mean???!!!! please explain

 

[harmonica]

he was just another man like anyone else

So you're a government school grad?

..I grew up brainwashed like a lot of children are--my parents were religious and we went to mass everyday....but I can think for myself and not be led around like a sheep

 

[PoliticalChic]

Mark 10:25

It is easier for a camel to pass thru the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven.
While Jesus taught about labor and work he also taught about the fallacy of being wealthy and how desiring to be wealthy was a sinful thing.

Greed, Envy and Lust along with Sloth and yet all sides forget these things are sins...

You may be interested in this Bosch painting.....


Cave Cave Deus Videt ("Beware, Beware, God Sees"). Hieronymus Bosch, in the painting 'The Seven Deadly Sins'

"The Seven Deadly Sins and the Four Last Things" is a painting that has traditionally been attributed to Hieronymus Bosch, …
Four small circles, detailing the four last things — "Death of the Sinner", "Judgment", "Hell" and "Glory" — surround a larger circle in which the seven deadly sins are depicted: wrath at the bottom, then (proceeding clockwise) envy, greed, gluttony, sloth, extravagance (later replaced with lust), and pride, in scenes from life rather than in allegorical representations of the sins.
At the centre of the large circle, which is said to represent the eye of God, is a "pupil" in which Christ can be seen emerging from his tomb. Below this image is the Latin inscription Cave Cave Deus Videt ("Beware, Beware, God Sees").”
Hieronymus Bosch «The Seven Deadly Sins and the Four Last Things» around 1500, Museo del Prado, Madrid

See the painting here: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Four Last Things - Wikipedia

All-seeing is an essential element in the definition of God, as it reminds believers that what they do, good or evil, will not go unnoticed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Don't you just love it when the atheistic Militant Secularist suddenly appeal to religion?

So the Mail Order Bride from Hell has it right and the Pope has it wrong?

Yeah, this pope has it VERY wrong

That would be 'The Marxist Pope.'

 

[initforme]

Helping the least among us was a huge part of Jesus teachings. Garnering wealth did not.

 

[PoliticalChic]

he was just another man like anyone else

So you're a government school grad?

..I grew up brainwashed like a lot of children are--my parents were religious and we went to mass everyday....but I can think for myself and not be led around like a sheep

Relax.....while long overdue, your education is on the way.

 

[occupied]

Jesus was an illiterate rabble-rouser that lived a 1500 years before anything that resembles modern capitalism existed. What did exist was exploitation of the weak by the strong. Clearly he thought that was wrong. Can capitalism exist without exploitation? It certainly can but exploitation is just so damned profitable.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Master," the man says to Jesus, "tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me." Jesus replies, "Man, who made me a judge or divider over you?" and then he rebukes the man for being envious of his sibling.” Was Jesus a Socialist?


Jesus gives evidence in Luke: 13Someone in the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” 14But Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed Me judge or executor between you?”

15And He said to them, “Watch out! Guard yourselves against every form of greed, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”…


But Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed Me judge or executor between you?”

If Jesus says He shouldn't appropriate the power to make such decisions for the individual.….how can government?




6. Who, or what, then, should be responsible for exactly how and when one’s earnings should be dispensed….or, if you’d rather use the term, ‘re-distributed’?

The answer redounds to the ideas of our Founders, and of conservatives today: the individual makes that decision, not the government, i.e., the ‘collective’ which has no such rights….at least not according to Jesus.



Conservativism: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


7. To be more specific to the American situation, our Constitution is the law of the land, the only document Americans have agreed to be governed by. In Article 1, section 8, the founders list exactly what the federal government is authorized to do….and charity, and insurance, and responsibility for being generous with other people’s earnings is not found in the list.

Everyone is free to give any part of their earning to whomsoever they choose....not to reach into their neighbor's pocket.


So saith Jesus.....the capitalist.

 

[playtime]

' render onto caesar....'

 

[initforme]

Garnering immense wealth is a sin. Rich men may very well not enter the kingdom of heaven.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

"Master," the man says to Jesus, "tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me." Jesus replies, "Man, who made me a judge or divider over you?" and then he rebukes the man for being envious of his sibling.” Was Jesus a Socialist?


Jesus gives evidence in Luke: 13Someone in the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” 14But Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed Me judge or executor between you?”

15And He said to them, “Watch out! Guard yourselves against every form of greed, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”…


But Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed Me judge or executor between you?”

If Jesus says He shouldn't appropriate the power to make such decisions for the individual.….how can government?




6. Who, or what, then, should be responsible for exactly how and when one’s earnings should be dispensed….or, if you’d rather use the term, ‘re-distributed’?

The answer redounds to the ideas of our Founders, and of conservatives today: the individual makes that decision, not the government, i.e., the ‘collective’ which has no such rights….at least not according to Jesus.



Conservativism: individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


7. To be more specific to the American situation, our Constitution is the law of the land, the only document Americans have agreed to be governed by. In Article 1, section 8, the founders list exactly what the federal government is authorized to do….and charity, and insurance, and responsibility for being generous with other people’s earnings is not found in the list.

Everyone is free to give any part of their earning to whomsoever they choose....not to reach into their neighbor's pocket.


So saith Jesus.....the capitalist.

you are falling trap of the false dichotomy fallacy, since Jesus was not a socialist he must have been a capitalist.

This is false, but you lack the basic intelligence to understand that.

It is not your fault though, God made you the way that you are.

 

[Jitss617]

Jesus was made of the image of God blonde and blue eyes and white.. and most definitely was a capitalist

 

[rightwinger]

Jesus was a Liberal

 

[Lesh]

Don't you just love it when the atheistic Militant Secularist suddenly appeal to religion?

“The New York Times on Ash Wednesday displayed more sudden respect for religion, at least of the left-wing variety, in an opinion piece by veteran journalist, presidential historian, and former editor-in-chief of Newsweek Jon Meacham, “Jesus May Be the Best Hope Against an Amoral President.” The text box: “Religious history can inspire activists in the Trump resistance.”
Meacham, NY Times Get Religion: ‘Jesus May Be the Best Hope Against an Amoral President’ | NewsBusters


In this era of Bernie and the Socialist Party that he heads, this is an important…revelation: there is no support for socialism/communism in the Bible.


1.Although communism, socialism, Progressivism and Liberalism are all atheistic forms of Militant Secularism, they all use religion to sway the argument for government-as-god, in their favor. At its most basic level, the argument is that government will take care of the poor and the helpless, from cradle to grave, and hence the validity of over-taxation to grow government.

After all…".isn’t that what the Bible says to do?"


2. Let me provide the Bible quotes that the sophists might point to to support the idea that socialism/communism is advanced by scripture.

Luke 3:11 “Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same.”

1 John 3:17 " But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?"

Communism? Liberalism? Socialism?
Not hardly. An accurate understanding of the Bible requires the distinction between 'redistribution' and 'generosity.'

"Some people conclude from these verses that the Bible supports government-enforced wealth redistribution. But what these verses really show is that the Bible advocates generosity.
These are two very different concepts.
Generosity springs from free will....not force, coercion, or threats.


3. “To get an accurate answer to our question, we need to define socialism. Socialism is the concentration of power into the hands of government elites to achieve the following purposes: central planning of the economy and the radical redistribution of wealth. Jesus never called for any of that.

4. Nowhere in the New Testament does he advocate for the government to punish the rich – or even to use tax money to help the poor. Nor does he promote the ideas of state ownership of businesses or central planning of the economy. In Luke 12, Jesus is confronted by a man who wants him to redistribute wealth. "Master," the man says to Jesus, "tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me." Jesus replies, "Man, who made me a judge or divider over you?" and then he rebukes the man for being envious of his sibling.” Was Jesus a Socialist?



5.Jesus gives evidence in Luke: 13Someone in the crowd said to Him, “Teacher, tell my brother to divide the inheritance with me.” 14But Jesus replied, “Man, who appointed Me judge or executor between you?”

15And He said to them, “Watch out! Guard yourselves against every form of greed, for one’s life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions.”…


The Leftists should stick to quoting Marx, Stalin, and Sanders.

Wow.

You argue the difference between generosity and socialism and this supposedly makesd Jesus a capitalist?

Huh?

He was definitely NOT that.

There is no doubt that he was absolutely against the accumulation of wealth

"easier to pass a camel through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven"