Jesus is the Christ

[TNHarley]

Sounds like you are criticizing what you don't believe, TN.

It isnt my fault it doesnt make sense.

Maybe to you but that's because you don't have a perception of God that is realistic.

Can you make an argument for your beliefs that isn't criticizing what you don't believe?

Meaning, i didnt make up a god in my mind like you did?

 

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Sounds like you are criticizing what you don't believe, TN.

It isnt my fault it doesnt make sense.

Maybe to you but that's because you don't have a perception of God that is realistic.

Can you make an argument for your beliefs that isn't criticizing what you don't believe?

Meaning, i didnt make up a god in my mind like you did?

You just can't make an argument for your beliefs that isn't criticizing what you don't believe.

So maybe you did make up something in your mind.

 

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TNHarley Critical theory is the Cultural Marxist practice of criticizing what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

You are in great company and don't even know it.

 

[TNHarley]

How can you not believe in god without criticisms?
This is stupid.

 

[TNHarley]

And now im like a marxist because i dont believe a book written by desert savages LOL

 

[Taz]

I like Krishna better.

Krishnas story is more believable than the abrahamic god. Thats for sure.

How so?

Abrahamic religions are creation based. Hinduism is not.
Ergo, Abrahamic religions have been forced to "rebrand" if you will. Adapt to science.
Hinduism doesnt have to compete with Galileo or Hawking.
Not to mention, the abrahamic religions were derived from sumeria.
Hinduism, in the very least, is original.

The universe was created, TN. Put this in perspective, Abraham deviated from polytheism in a time of polytheism. Everyone at that time believed there were many gods and each did a specific thing. Judaism states existence had a beginning. Everything we see evolved over time and man is not only a product of that creation but stands alone because he has a mind and can conceptualize right and wrong.

Nothing is what you think it is.

Ok boomer

I wouldn't believe the God you perceive exists either.

Better than making up one in my mind like you religious people do.

Divine providence and peace through the storm says otherwise.

Dont believe in divine providence. And my peace is perfectly fine. Thats despite worshipping the god you made you up in your head.

I've experienced it so there's that.

Anyone can find peace in blue skies and sunshine, TN. But best of luck with that.

Schizos experience being the president as well. Doesnt mean anything.
I have peace with my past, my present and especially my future. And when i die? Im ok with rotting in the ground. Might even have myself cremated and buried with a tree

If you had peace you wouldn't be trolling the religious forum seeking out arguments over God, TN.

Faith isn't about dying, faith is about living the right way.

I wasnt seeking an argument. You gave me one.

Why is this rain yellow?

God's having a wizz?

More like TN pissing on me and telling me it's rain.

I wouldnt lie to you

You lie to yourself.

Amazing how you keep telling me whats going on in my head

You practice critical theory, TN. It's not hard for me to figure out.

What do you mean?

You don't have arguments for what you believe. You have arguments for what you don't believe. So you arrive at what you believe by criticizing what you don't believe without ever having to examine what you believe.

I dont believe in your god. However, i dont discount a supreme being.
I have lots of reasons for both.

Ok, tell me about the reasons why you believe God does not exist without criticizing the reasons why people believe God does exist. Make a positive case for your beliefs.

I see no empirical proof that points to an invisible superbeing.

 

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I like Krishna better.

Krishnas story is more believable than the abrahamic god. Thats for sure.

How so?

Abrahamic religions are creation based. Hinduism is not.
Ergo, Abrahamic religions have been forced to "rebrand" if you will. Adapt to science.
Hinduism doesnt have to compete with Galileo or Hawking.
Not to mention, the abrahamic religions were derived from sumeria.
Hinduism, in the very least, is original.

The universe was created, TN. Put this in perspective, Abraham deviated from polytheism in a time of polytheism. Everyone at that time believed there were many gods and each did a specific thing. Judaism states existence had a beginning. Everything we see evolved over time and man is not only a product of that creation but stands alone because he has a mind and can conceptualize right and wrong.

Nothing is what you think it is.

Ok boomer

I wouldn't believe the God you perceive exists either.

Better than making up one in my mind like you religious people do.

Divine providence and peace through the storm says otherwise.

Dont believe in divine providence. And my peace is perfectly fine. Thats despite worshipping the god you made you up in your head.

I've experienced it so there's that.

Anyone can find peace in blue skies and sunshine, TN. But best of luck with that.

Schizos experience being the president as well. Doesnt mean anything.
I have peace with my past, my present and especially my future. And when i die? Im ok with rotting in the ground. Might even have myself cremated and buried with a tree

If you had peace you wouldn't be trolling the religious forum seeking out arguments over God, TN.

Faith isn't about dying, faith is about living the right way.

I wasnt seeking an argument. You gave me one.

Why is this rain yellow?

God's having a wizz?

More like TN pissing on me and telling me it's rain.

I wouldnt lie to you

You lie to yourself.

Amazing how you keep telling me whats going on in my head

You practice critical theory, TN. It's not hard for me to figure out.

What do you mean?

You don't have arguments for what you believe. You have arguments for what you don't believe. So you arrive at what you believe by criticizing what you don't believe without ever having to examine what you believe.

I dont believe in your god. However, i dont discount a supreme being.
I have lots of reasons for both.

Ok, tell me about the reasons why you believe God does not exist without criticizing the reasons why people believe God does exist. Make a positive case for your beliefs.

I see no empirical proof that points to an invisible superbeing.

That's not a reason to believe God doesn't exist. That's criticizing the reasons why people believe God exists because the empirical evidence is creation itself.

 

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And now im like a marxist because i dont believe a book written by desert savages LOL

No.

You are like a Marxist in that you criticize what you don't believe to arrive at what you do believe.

You are like a Marxist in that you attempt to subordinate religion.

Throughout our nation's history, churches have done what no government can ever do, namely teach morality and civility. Moral and civil individuals are largely governed by their own sense of right and wrong, and hence have little need for external government. This is the real reason the collectivist Left hates religion: Churches as institutions compete with the state for the people's allegiance, and many devout people put their faith in God before putting their faith in the state. Knowing this, the secularists wage an ongoing war against religion, chipping away bit by bit at our nation's Christian heritage. Dr. Ron Paul

...in order to charm the golden birds, out of the pockets of his dearly beloved neighbours in Christ. He puts himself at the service of the other’s most depraved fancies, plays the pimp between him and his need, excites in him morbid appetites, lies in wait for each of his weaknesses – all so that he can then demand the cash for this service of love. (Every product is a bait with which to seduce away the other’s very being, his money; every real and possible need is a weakness which will lead the fly to the glue-pot. General exploitation of communal human nature, just as every imperfection in man, is a bond with heaven – an avenue giving the priest access to his heart; every need is an opportunity to approach one’s neighbour under the guise of the utmost amiability and to say to him: Dear friend, I give you what you need, but you know the conditio sine qua non; you know the ink in which you have to sign yourself over to me; in providing for your pleasure, I fleece you.) Karl Marx, Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts of 1844, 3rd paragraph,
Human Requirements and Division of Labour, Marx, 1844

It is especially easy for us to observe socialism's hostility to religion, for this is inherent, with few exceptions, in all contemporary socialist states and doctrines. Only rarely is the abolition of religion legislated, as it was in Albania. But the actions of other socialist states leave no doubt that they are all governed by this very principle and that only external difficulties have prevented its complete implementation. This same principle has been repeatedly proclaimed in socialist doctrines, beginning with the end of the seventeenth century. Sixteenth- and seventeenth-century doctrines are imbued with cold skeptical and ironic attitudes toward religion. If not consciously, then "objectively," they prepared humanity for the convergence of socialist ideology and militant atheism that took place at the end of the seventeenth century and during the course of the eighteenth. The Socialist Phenomenon

 

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How can you not believe in god without criticisms?
This is stupid.

That's a pretty confusing statement.

Yes, you should question everything, but that's not what you are doing. You should be questioning your disbelief as much as you question your belief. Only then are you questioning everything.

 

[TNHarley]

How can you not believe in god without criticisms?
This is stupid.

That's a pretty confusing statement.

Yes, you should question everything, but that's not what you are doing. You should be questioning your disbelief as much as you question your belief. Only then are you questioning everything.

My disbelief is centered around the book being found to being a bunch of bullshit.
Its crazy the lengths you go to, to defend the god you made up in your head.
Im like a marxist because your god isnt real

 

[ding]

How can you not believe in god without criticisms?
This is stupid.

That's a pretty confusing statement.

Yes, you should question everything, but that's not what you are doing. You should be questioning your disbelief as much as you question your belief. Only then are you questioning everything.

My disbelief is centered around the book being found to being a bunch of bullshit.
Its crazy the lengths you go to, to defend the god you made up in your head.
Im like a marxist because your god isnt real

Why are you worrying about what a book says?

What crazy lengths am I going to?

You are like a Marxist for the reasons I listed. They attack religion just as you do. It matters not that your reasons for doing so are different. The end result is exactly the same.

 

[Taz]

I like Krishna better.

Krishnas story is more believable than the abrahamic god. Thats for sure.

How so?

Abrahamic religions are creation based. Hinduism is not.
Ergo, Abrahamic religions have been forced to "rebrand" if you will. Adapt to science.
Hinduism doesnt have to compete with Galileo or Hawking.
Not to mention, the abrahamic religions were derived from sumeria.
Hinduism, in the very least, is original.

The universe was created, TN. Put this in perspective, Abraham deviated from polytheism in a time of polytheism. Everyone at that time believed there were many gods and each did a specific thing. Judaism states existence had a beginning. Everything we see evolved over time and man is not only a product of that creation but stands alone because he has a mind and can conceptualize right and wrong.

Nothing is what you think it is.

Ok boomer

I wouldn't believe the God you perceive exists either.

Better than making up one in my mind like you religious people do.

Divine providence and peace through the storm says otherwise.

Dont believe in divine providence. And my peace is perfectly fine. Thats despite worshipping the god you made you up in your head.

I've experienced it so there's that.

Anyone can find peace in blue skies and sunshine, TN. But best of luck with that.

Schizos experience being the president as well. Doesnt mean anything.
I have peace with my past, my present and especially my future. And when i die? Im ok with rotting in the ground. Might even have myself cremated and buried with a tree

If you had peace you wouldn't be trolling the religious forum seeking out arguments over God, TN.

Faith isn't about dying, faith is about living the right way.

I wasnt seeking an argument. You gave me one.

Why is this rain yellow?

God's having a wizz?

More like TN pissing on me and telling me it's rain.

I wouldnt lie to you

You lie to yourself.

Amazing how you keep telling me whats going on in my head

You practice critical theory, TN. It's not hard for me to figure out.

What do you mean?

You don't have arguments for what you believe. You have arguments for what you don't believe. So you arrive at what you believe by criticizing what you don't believe without ever having to examine what you believe.

I dont believe in your god. However, i dont discount a supreme being.
I have lots of reasons for both.

Ok, tell me about the reasons why you believe God does not exist without criticizing the reasons why people believe God does exist. Make a positive case for your beliefs.

I see no empirical proof that points to an invisible superbeing.

That's not a reason to believe God doesn't exist. That's criticizing the reasons why people believe God exists because the empirical evidence is creation itself.

If you're walking in the desert and come across a house but there's nobody around, do you say: it must have been made by an invisible dude because the proof is the house? No, not even you would say that, or would you?

 

[ding]

I like Krishna better.

Krishnas story is more believable than the abrahamic god. Thats for sure.

How so?

Abrahamic religions are creation based. Hinduism is not.
Ergo, Abrahamic religions have been forced to "rebrand" if you will. Adapt to science.
Hinduism doesnt have to compete with Galileo or Hawking.
Not to mention, the abrahamic religions were derived from sumeria.
Hinduism, in the very least, is original.

The universe was created, TN. Put this in perspective, Abraham deviated from polytheism in a time of polytheism. Everyone at that time believed there were many gods and each did a specific thing. Judaism states existence had a beginning. Everything we see evolved over time and man is not only a product of that creation but stands alone because he has a mind and can conceptualize right and wrong.

Nothing is what you think it is.

Ok boomer

I wouldn't believe the God you perceive exists either.

Better than making up one in my mind like you religious people do.

Divine providence and peace through the storm says otherwise.

Dont believe in divine providence. And my peace is perfectly fine. Thats despite worshipping the god you made you up in your head.

I've experienced it so there's that.

Anyone can find peace in blue skies and sunshine, TN. But best of luck with that.

Schizos experience being the president as well. Doesnt mean anything.
I have peace with my past, my present and especially my future. And when i die? Im ok with rotting in the ground. Might even have myself cremated and buried with a tree

If you had peace you wouldn't be trolling the religious forum seeking out arguments over God, TN.

Faith isn't about dying, faith is about living the right way.

I wasnt seeking an argument. You gave me one.

Why is this rain yellow?

God's having a wizz?

More like TN pissing on me and telling me it's rain.

I wouldnt lie to you

You lie to yourself.

Amazing how you keep telling me whats going on in my head

You practice critical theory, TN. It's not hard for me to figure out.

What do you mean?

You don't have arguments for what you believe. You have arguments for what you don't believe. So you arrive at what you believe by criticizing what you don't believe without ever having to examine what you believe.

I dont believe in your god. However, i dont discount a supreme being.
I have lots of reasons for both.

Ok, tell me about the reasons why you believe God does not exist without criticizing the reasons why people believe God does exist. Make a positive case for your beliefs.

I see no empirical proof that points to an invisible superbeing.

That's not a reason to believe God doesn't exist. That's criticizing the reasons why people believe God exists because the empirical evidence is creation itself.

If you're walking in the desert and come across a house but there's nobody around, do you say: it must have been made by an invisible dude because the proof is the house? No, not even you would say that, or would you?

If the house self assembled itself you might.

 

[TNHarley]

How can you not believe in god without criticisms?
This is stupid.

That's a pretty confusing statement.

Yes, you should question everything, but that's not what you are doing. You should be questioning your disbelief as much as you question your belief. Only then are you questioning everything.

My disbelief is centered around the book being found to being a bunch of bullshit.
Its crazy the lengths you go to, to defend the god you made up in your head.
Im like a marxist because your god isnt real

Why are you worrying about what a book says?

What crazy lengths am I going to?

You are like a Marxist for the reasons I listed. They attack religion just as you do. It matters not that your reasons for doing so are different. The end result is exactly the same.

"if you dont believe the word of desert savages, or make god in your own image, you are a marxist! mmmkay?"

 

[TNHarley]

Why are you worrying about what a book says?

Exactly why i say you made up your god in your head. Not the god of the bible.
You worship your imagination

 

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How can you not believe in god without criticisms?
This is stupid.

That's a pretty confusing statement.

Yes, you should question everything, but that's not what you are doing. You should be questioning your disbelief as much as you question your belief. Only then are you questioning everything.

My disbelief is centered around the book being found to being a bunch of bullshit.
Its crazy the lengths you go to, to defend the god you made up in your head.
Im like a marxist because your god isnt real

Why are you worrying about what a book says?

What crazy lengths am I going to?

You are like a Marxist for the reasons I listed. They attack religion just as you do. It matters not that your reasons for doing so are different. The end result is exactly the same.

"if you dont believe the word of desert savages, or make god in your own image, you are a marxist! mmmkay?"

No. I already told you why you are like a Marxist. The fact that you can't address what I actually wrote is another way you are like a Marxist.

 

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Why are you worrying about what a book says?

Exactly why i say you made up your god in your head. Not the god of the bible.
You worship your imagination

I don't care how you perceive God, TN. You can't negate God because you don't agree with someone else's perception of God. No one is forcing you to follow their perception. That's one of the things this country was founded upon.

 

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You worship your imagination

No. I just don't read the Bible literally because I know - and you know - it doesn't make any sense to do so. I wouldn't believe it either if I read it literally. So rather than reading Genesis literally this is what I take from reading Genesis allegorically. I challenge you to disagree with any of it.

God created existence. Everything he created is good. What he created was done in steps. Man is a product of that creation. Man is unlike any other creature in creation. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful. Man knows right from wrong. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure. Don't rationalize your failures, mistakes and errors. Own them. Pass it down to the next generation.

 

[BreezeWood]

You worship your imagination

No. I just don't read the Bible literally because I know - and you know - it doesn't make any sense to do so. I wouldn't believe it either if I read it literally. So rather than reading Genesis literally this is what I take from reading Genesis allegorically. I challenge you to disagree with any of it.

God created existence. Everything he created is good. What he created was done in steps. Man is a product of that creation. Man is unlike any other creature in creation. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful. Man knows right from wrong. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure. Don't rationalize your failures, mistakes and errors. Own them. Pass it down to the next generation.

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Everything he (they) created is good.

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what about you, bing. christianity ... who created that.

 

[ding]

You worship your imagination

No. I just don't read the Bible literally because I know - and you know - it doesn't make any sense to do so. I wouldn't believe it either if I read it literally. So rather than reading Genesis literally this is what I take from reading Genesis allegorically. I challenge you to disagree with any of it.

God created existence. Everything he created is good. What he created was done in steps. Man is a product of that creation. Man is unlike any other creature in creation. Man is made in God’s image in that he is a being which knows and creates. Man was told to go forth and be fruitful. Man knows right from wrong. Rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong when man does wrong, he rationalizes he didn’t do wrong. Successful behaviors naturally lead to success. Failed behaviors naturally lead to failure. Don't rationalize your failures, mistakes and errors. Own them. Pass it down to the next generation.

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Everything he (they) created is good.

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what about you, bing. christianity ... who created that.

Mathew 16:18