Life imprisonment for career criminals.

[Woodznutz]

Identifying career criminals isn't difficult. Repeated offenses even after repeated incarcerations is pretty good evidence. We would do ourselves a great favor by locking them up fo' evah.

 

[1srelluc]

Three strike rule.....Life on the third felony.....States to determine the qualifying felonies.


Twenty-eight U.S. states and the federal government have some form of a three strikes law, imposing harsher penalties on repeat felony offenders.

Overview​

Three strikes laws, also called habitual offender statutes, are designed to increase prison sentences for individuals convicted of multiple serious or violent felonies. Typically, a third qualifying felony conviction triggers a mandatory life sentence or a long-term prison sentence, though the exact rules vary by state. Some states have refined their laws to focus only on serious or violent crimes, while others still allow certain nonviolent felonies to count as strikes. Federal law also has a three strikes system for serious violent and drug-related offenses.
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Of course states that have it bastardized it by plea-ing down felonies.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Identifying career criminals isn't difficult. Repeated offenses even after repeated incarcerations is pretty good evidence. We would do ourselves a great favor by locking them up fo' evah.

I'd prefer a firing squad and saving us a lot of money.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'd prefer a firing squad and saving us a lot of money.

I would want to get some work out of them first. Maybe work them to death.

 

[1srelluc]

I'd prefer a firing squad and saving us a lot of money.

If it was life with no parole that would be fine with me but in most three strike states the convicts are eligible for parole by and by.

If a habitual offender goes in as a three striker say in his 20s they will let him go up for parole when he reaches his 50s in a lot of cases.....Depends on the state.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Identifying career criminals isn't difficult. Repeated offenses even after repeated incarcerations is pretty good evidence. We would do ourselves a great favor by locking them up fo' evah.

Trump was judged, in court, based on mountains of evidence, to be a career criminal.

 

[toobfreak]

Identifying career criminals isn't difficult. Repeated offenses even after repeated incarcerations is pretty good evidence. We would do ourselves a great favor by locking them up fo' evah.

I disagree. Repeat offenders are indicating two things:

1. That they are not a fit part of society.
2. That they are bound to be habitual problems.

To the first then needs determined one of two things:

1. How much of their sociopathy is endemic to themselves.
2. How much of of their sociopathy is environmental, due to conditions and circumstance. If more than 50% due to circumstances, poverty, opportunity, etc., it behooves the government to fix that to help get these people back on their feet and flying straight and narrow as this will minimize any further long-term cost to society.

But if they are the problem themselves despite opportunity and addressment, and all attempts to correct fail that they become repeat offenders resistant to correction anyway, when do they stop becoming society's problem?

For those whom repeatedly offend, end up in jail and fail at all attempts of reform, there has to be limits. At some point, a person should reach a threshold, I mean, you are only allowed so much healthcare, you are only allowed so much social security; all through life we are faced with limitations, so why then should a person be entitled to unlimited incarceration with unlimited food, clothing, and healthcare? For 80 years??? At some point, a person's benefits must run out and in the case of hardened career criminals, society must admit that at some point, it doesn't pay to house them in jail any longer as there is no possibility of reform and no benefit in further incarceration, and society is better served by simply chucking bad eggs.

There needs to be a change to the law that for instance, three times and you are out: Say, rob a bank, get arrested, get reformed then go out and do it again, you get arrested again with one last chance. Get convicted a THIRD time, establish a pattern, and this time, you go to the glue factory instead of prison.

Just think of the impact on crime if a criminal knew that if he gets arrested and sent up the river again, this time instead of just a jail cell, he gets a legal injection instead.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I disagree. Repeat offenders are indicating two things:

1. That they are not a fit part of society.
2. That they are bound to be habitual problems.

To the first then needs determined one of two things:

1. How much of their sociopathy is endemic to themselves.
2. How much of of their sociopathy is environmental, due to conditions and circumstance. If more than 50% due to circumstances, poverty, opportunity, etc., it behooves the government to fix that to help get these people back on their feet and flying straight and narrow as this will minimize any further long-term cost to society.

But if they are the problem themselves despite opportunity and addressment, and all attempts to correct fail that they become repeat offenders resistant to correction anyway, when do they stop becoming society's problem?

For those whom repeatedly offend, end up in jail and fail at all attempts of reform, there has to be limits. At some point, a person should reach a threshold, I mean, you are only allowed so much healthcare, you are only allowed so much social security; all through life we are faced with limitations, so why then should a person be entitled to unlimited incarceration with unlimited food, clothing, and healthcare? For 80 years??? At some point, a person's benefits must run out and in the case of hardened career criminals, society must admit that at some point, it doesn't pay to house them in jail any longer as there is no possibility of reform and no benefit in further incarceration, and society is better served by simply chucking bad eggs.

There needs to be a change to the law that for instance, three times and you are out: Say, rob a bank, get arrested, get reformed then go out and do it again, you get arrested again with one last chance. Get convicted a THIRD time, establish a pattern, and this time, you go to the glue factory instead of prison.

Just think of the impact on crime if a criminal knew that if he gets arrested and sent up the river again, this time instead of just a jail cell, he gets a legal injection instead.

Sounds like Sharia.

 

[1srelluc]

I disagree. Repeat offenders are indicating two things:

1. That they are not a fit part of society.
2. That they are bound to be habitual problems.

To the first then needs determined one of two things:

1. How much of their sociopathy is endemic to themselves.
2. How much of of their sociopathy is environmental, due to conditions and circumstance. If more than 50% due to circumstances, poverty, opportunity, etc., it behooves the government to fix that to help get these people back on their feet and flying straight and narrow as this will minimize any further long-term cost to society.

But if they are the problem themselves despite opportunity and addressment, and all attempts to correct fail that they become repeat offenders resistant to correction anyway, when do they stop becoming society's problem?

For those whom repeatedly offend, end up in jail and fail at all attempts of reform, there has to be limits. At some point, a person should reach a threshold, I mean, you are only allowed so much healthcare, you are only allowed so much social security; all through life we are faced with limitations, so why then should a person be entitled to unlimited incarceration with unlimited food, clothing, and healthcare? For 80 years??? At some point, a person's benefits must run out and in the case of hardened career criminals, society must admit that at some point, it doesn't pay to house them in jail any longer as there is no possibility of reform and no benefit in further incarceration, and society is better served by simply chucking bad eggs.

There needs to be a change to the law that for instance, three times and you are out: Say, rob a bank, get arrested, get reformed then go out and do it again, you get arrested again with one last chance. Get convicted a THIRD time, establish a pattern, and this time, you go to the glue factory instead of prison.

Just think of the impact on crime if a criminal knew that if he gets arrested and sent up the river again, this time instead of just a jail cell, he gets a legal injection instead.

Nice Newsletter.