James Hansen Wishes he Wasn’t So Right about Global Warming

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You can't change the Earth's temp by moving things around on the surface. You have to change what's entering or leaving the Earth system. You keep dodging that point.

I have never dodged that point. You haven't been reading what I have been writing. You've been so busy quibbling and arguing, you kept missing the point.

 

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Hilarious

It's hilarious you still aren't getting it. The sun's output is constant. AGW people have argued that point. They argue the sun can't be responsible for the planet warming. If the sun can't be responsible for the planet warming, then it can't be responsible for the planet cooling. Yet we know for a fact the planet has cooled and warmed over 30 times in the last 3 million years.

That you still don't get it can only mean you are an idiot; a moron.

 

[otto105]

I have never dodged that point. You haven't been reading what I have been writing. You've been so busy quibbling and arguing, you kept missing the point.

Hilarious

Your finished your kindergarten climate report yet?

 

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Hilarious

Your finished your kindergarten climate report yet?

Call me when you get more intelligent.

 

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You can't change the Earth's temp by moving things around on the surface. You have to change what's entering or leaving the Earth system. You keep dodging that point.

You've kind of painted yourself into a corner with that belief.

The planet cooling for millions of years with CO2 trailing temperature.... you must believe the sun's output was declining, right?

And glacial periods had to have been caused by the sun, interglacial periods had to be caused by the sun and every single warming and cooling trend had to be caused by the sun.

I'm not trying to be a dick here but you need to rethink your position.

 

[otto105]

You've kind of painted yourself into a corner with that belief.

The planet cooling for millions of years with CO2 trailing temperature.... you must believe the sun's output was declining, right?

And glacial periods had to have been caused by the sun, interglacial periods had to be caused by the sun and every single warming and cooling trend had to be caused by the sun.

I'm not trying to be a dick here but you need to rethink your position.

Oooooo a climate toddler posts ^^^^^^^

 

[mamooth]

What's the mechanism for CO2 to lead?

CO2 raises temperature, which causes the oceans to emit more CO2.

Come on, this is basic stuff. Orbital factors give the initial kick, then the CO2 takes over as the driver.

 

[mamooth]

The planet cooling for millions of years with CO2 trailing temperature....

This is incorrect, therefore your theory flops. CO2 is both a forcing and a feedback.

 

[otto105]

CO2 raises temperature, which causes the oceans to emit more CO2.

Come on, this is basic stuff. Orbital factors give the initial kick, then the CO2 takes over as the driver.

Please stop trying to discuss climate with a toddler.

 

[mamooth]

30 years ago the climate screamers were saying half of Florida and Manhattan would be under water by now.​

No, they didn't. Stop making crap up. Nobody outside of your commie cult falls for it, and it just makes you look desperate and dishonest.

Most of your clowns are still screeching that a new ice age will arrive tomorrow. Your side can't even get the direction of the change right. You've all been as wrong as it's possible for humans to be, for over 40 years running now. That's why the whole world laughs at you, and correctly classifies you as corrupt poltiical hacks.

Mainstream climate science, in stark contrast, has gotten everything right since the 1970s. That's why mastream climate scientists have been assigned such credibility by the world, because they've earned it through their record of success.

If right wing politics vanished today, denialism wiould instantly vanish along with it, becuase denialism is entirely politics.

If left wing politics vanished today, climate science wouldn't change a bit, because it's actual science.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

No, they didn't. Stop making crap up. Nobody outside of your commie cult falls for it, and it just makes you look desperate and dishonest.

Most of your clowns are still screeching that a new ice age will arrive tomorrow. Your side can't even get the direction of the change right. You've all been as wrong as it's possible for humans to be, for over 40 years running now. That's why the whole world laughs at you, and correctly classifies you as corrupt poltiical hacks.

Mainstream climate science, in stark contrast, has gotten everything right since the 1970s. That's why mastream climate scientists have been assigned such credibility by the world, because they've earned it through their record of success.

If right wing politics vanished today, denialism wiould instantly vanish along with it, becuase denialism is entirely politics.

If left wing politics vanished today, climate science wouldn't change a bit, because it's actual science.

If I don't want to waste trillions of dollars on more expensive, less reliable energy, does
that make me a denialist? Or am I just a guy who thinks about economics?

 

[tahuyaman]

No, they didn't. Stop making crap up. Nobody outside of your commie cult falls for it, and it just makes you look desperate and dishonest.

Most of your clowns are still screeching that a new ice age will arrive tomorrow. Your side can't even get the direction of the change right. You've all been as wrong as it's possible for humans to be, for over 40 years running now. That's why the whole world laughs at you, and correctly classifies you as corrupt poltiical hacks.

Mainstream climate science, in stark contrast, has gotten everything right since the 1970s. That's why mastream climate scientists have been assigned such credibility by the world, because they've earned it through their record of success.

If right wing politics vanished today, denialism wiould instantly vanish along with it, becuase denialism is entirely politics.

If left wing politics vanished today, climate science wouldn't change a bit, because it's actual science.

This is the strategy the anti capitalist greenies employ. They make wild claims of doom, death and destruction 30 to 50 years in the future. When the conditions on earth remain the same after that time, they deny they made these claims.

One idiot leftist made the mistake of eight years ago saying that we only had 10 to 12 years left before the earth ceases to support life.

Generally they say these things will happen 100 or more years in the future. That way no one will be there to call them out.

In the early 1970’s they were claiming that American industry was forcing the earth into an ice age before the turn of century. They did a 180 on that one by the mid 80’s.

The databon climate change / global warming is not based on the real world. It’s all based on computer models. That’s a result of garbage in, garbage out.

 

[tahuyaman]

CO2 raises temperature, which causes the oceans to emit more CO2.

Come on, this is basic stuff. Orbital factors give the initial kick, then the CO2 takes over as the driver.

CO2 is natural. It’s is requirement in our atmosphere to sustain life. CO2 does not harm our environment.

Remember when the leftists were crying about the Ozone hole?

 

[tahuyaman]

You can't change the Earth's temp by moving things around on the surface. You have to change what's entering or leaving the Earth system. You keep dodging that point.

We can’t change it at all period. The earths climate and weather conditions are normal and cyclical. We can’t start, stop or alter any one cycle. Nature does what it does regardless of what we do. All we can do is react to it and adapt.

 

[tahuyaman]

If I don't want to waste trillions of dollars on more expensive, less reliable energy, does
that make me a denialist? Or am I just a guy who thinks about economics?

We already have a solution to our further energy needs. It’s called nuclear power.

 

[tahuyaman]

When the greenies make these claims you just treat them like a child. Make them a bowl of chicken noodle soup, pat them on the head and tell them to you out and play.

 

[Crick]

We can’t change it at all period.

Of course we can because we already have. We've been doing it for 174 years.

The earths climate and weather conditions are normal and cyclical.

What is that supposed to mean? The Earth's average temperature has been increasing and it has nothing to do with any cycle. It is due to human GHG emissions.

We can’t start, stop or alter any one cycle.

You're babbling.

Nature does what it does regardless of what we do. All we can do is react to it and adapt.

Do you live in a home with an air conditioner and a fire place or heater? Is the temperature in your home the same as the temperature outside? When the sun goes down, are you still able to see where you're going, read a book, get a snack from the refrigerator? It seems to me as if you have very little difficulty avoiding what nature is trying to do to you.

 

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CO2 raises temperature, which causes the oceans to emit more CO2.

Come on, this is basic stuff. Orbital factors give the initial kick, then the CO2 takes over as the driver.

So more CO2 is responsible for more CO2 and less CO2 is responsible for less CO2?

How does that work when CO2 was lagging behind temperature by 800-1000 years as the planet was cooling?

 

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Come on, this is basic stuff. Orbital factors give the initial kick, then the CO2 takes over as the driver.

Aren't orbital cycles 40,000 to 100,000 year cycles? How did orbital cycles cause the planet's temperature to cool for millions of years?

 

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CO2 raises temperature, which causes the oceans to emit more CO2.

Come on, this is basic stuff. Orbital factors give the initial kick, then the CO2 takes over as the driver.

Hey Crick do you believe what she is saying?