I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church

[BreezeWood]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

 

[esalla]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

You have the right to love, hate and marry. The catholic church is now endorsing the hate of communism. Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

 

[ding]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

Tell us ding how do we do it right

Die to self and confront reality.

 

[ding]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

Everything you believe is wrong. With infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. With physical good there exists also physical evil as long as creation has not reached perfection. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow any evil whatsoever to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from evil itself. In time you will discover that God in his almighty providence can bring a good from the consequences of an evil, even a moral evil, caused by his creatures.

 

[ding]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

You have the right to love, hate and marry. The catholic church is now endorsing the hate of communism. Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

You are the last person or at least one of a handful of people - I would ever take advice from.

 

[esalla]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

Tell us ding how do we do it right

Die to self and confront reality.

So once all the people who do not think you are psychologically normal die, then you are in charge of telling the rest what they need to read

 

[esalla]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

You have the right to love, hate and marry. The catholic church is now endorsing the hate of communism. Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

You are the last person or at least one of a handful of people - I would ever take advice from.

The advice was not aimed at you dingbat

 

[ding]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

Tell us ding how do we do it right

Die to self and confront reality.

So once all the people who do not think you are psychologically normal die, then you are in charge of telling the rest what they need to read

I believe that growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth, dummy. So I don't believe I need to do anything other than to present my side. What idiots like yourself do is entirely up to them. I am perfectly fine with others experiencing their predictable surprises. We live in a logical universe where every effect had a cause. You are being pruned by God, not me. At any point in your life you are the sum of your choices. Whatever consequences you suffer are consequences of your own making. In this way you are being pruned. If you keep making the same mistakes your lessons will keep being returned to you until you learn what it was you were supposed to learn.

 

[ding]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

You have the right to love, hate and marry. The catholic church is now endorsing the hate of communism. Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

You are the last person or at least one of a handful of people - I would ever take advice from.

The advice was not aimed at you dingbat

I understood that. So what?

 

[esalla]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

Tell us ding how do we do it right

Die to self and confront reality.

So once all the people who do not think you are psychologically normal die, then you are in charge of telling the rest what they need to read

I believe that growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth, dummy. So I don't believe I need to do anything other than to present my side. What idiots like yourself do is entirely up to them. I am perfectly fine with others experiencing their predictable surprises. We live in a logical universe where every effect had a cause. You are being pruned by God, not me. At any point in your life you are the sum of your choices. Whatever consequences you suffer are consequences of your own making. In this way you are being pruned. If you keep making the same mistakes your lessons will keep being returned to you until you learn what it was you were supposed to learn.

The priest had no right to do that

 

[ding]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

Tell us ding how do we do it right

Die to self and confront reality.

So once all the people who do not think you are psychologically normal die, then you are in charge of telling the rest what they need to read

I believe that growth filled communities should explore all sides of an issue to arrive at objective truth, dummy. So I don't believe I need to do anything other than to present my side. What idiots like yourself do is entirely up to them. I am perfectly fine with others experiencing their predictable surprises. We live in a logical universe where every effect had a cause. You are being pruned by God, not me. At any point in your life you are the sum of your choices. Whatever consequences you suffer are consequences of your own making. In this way you are being pruned. If you keep making the same mistakes your lessons will keep being returned to you until you learn what it was you were supposed to learn.

The priest had no right to do that

Sure. So what?

Read the John Jay report.

 

[Meister]

Please stay on topic going forward, two have been thread banned already

 

[Meriweather]

Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

What is wrong with going to Church? It displays love of God and love of neighbor/community. It is an opportunity to join together in prayer, care, and worship.

 

[BreezeWood]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

You have the right to love, hate and marry. The catholic church is now endorsing the hate of communism. Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

.

You have the right to love, hate and marry. The catholic church is now endorsing the hate of communism. Remember Jesus does not demand you go to church on sunday, he only cares that you love your neighbor

.
do communist marry ... the pretension to this forum is the discussion of religion without reference to the underlying autocratic precepts embedded by established congregations. gun lovers for god. esalla.

 

[BreezeWood]

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected. So they start the fight so that they are ones doing the rejection.

It's so sad.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

try life without a messiah if you want answers.

Anyone who would disrespect the faith of others is no friend of God.

Often times people who are insecure will attack others because they fear being rejected.

And it's the standard MO of Progressives Everywhere!

.
not being a friend with yours is no loss - 4th century forgeries and fallacies go only so far.

oh, and you all are just upset the orange jesus isn't quite reelected yet, don't worry they were just kidding with the pandemic sent from mt high and surly really wanted love boy to win afterall.

and the judges will see to it for the deeply religious they get their man back as soon as possible.

You have no friends.

.

You have no friends.

.
how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

the same as today few and far between they are stepped on by the sinners who flourish. bing.

should I feel less otherwise as having many.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.

Yes. You should. It's a sign that you are doing it wrong.

.
enduring over time what is wrong are who fantasize divine intervention for guidance.

you did not answer the question, christian.
.

how many were there for the religious itinerant their last few days and closing scene of the 1st century events.

.
I've made a major decision about my relationship with the Catholic Church
.
are they related -

Everything you believe is wrong. With infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. With physical good there exists also physical evil as long as creation has not reached perfection. For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow any evil whatsoever to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from evil itself. In time you will discover that God in his almighty providence can bring a good from the consequences of an evil, even a moral evil, caused by his creatures.

.

Everything you believe is wrong ... With physical good there exists also physical evil as long as creation has not reached perfection.

.
you are nuts bing ...

the religion of antiquity is 6 words long, prescribed by the Almighty written in blood - yours is 10000 pages long also written in blood by crucifiers - good lock with yours.

no, neither good nor evil is physical - but satan was killed with the others for the true religion to be prescribed - sink or swim together that's all that's left for humanity.

 

[beautress]

Tonight, I was playing Dungeons & Dragons with my son and his friends. Between sessions, we got into a discussion about religion. My son went into a spiel about Jesus. He said that after Jesus died, he came down the elevator from Earth down to purgatory. He reprogrammed the computer and changed all the rules of the universe. The switch for what happens to unbaptized babies he left in the middle somewhere between heaven and purgatory, so no one could tell where it was. Then he went on to explain that changing water to wine, walking on water, and raise dead were spells in the Players Handbook, and that Jesus never cast any spells higher than a ninth level cleric.

I went into a dark and terrible mood. Later that night, my son took me home. I explained to him that what he had said made me feel that everything I believed, the entire Catholic religion, was a ridiculous theory that couldn't be proved. I told him that I needed the Catholic religion, since I had nothing else but heaven to look forward to. I broke down in tears and my son comforted me. He told me he hadn't been mocking the Catholic religion, just trying to explain in a way his friends would understand. Then he went home.

So I have made a decision.

I have spoken on this forum about how I am divorced and my Catholic faith forbids me to remarry unless I get an annulment.

I have spoken of my disillusionment with the Pope and the bishops.

I have spoken about how the sex scandal has made it hard to be a Catholic.

I have said the Catholic faith is leaving me, I'm not leaving the Catholic religion.

Now I have come to a decision.

I have dallied long enough at the doorway of the Catholic Church, trying to figure out whether to leave permanently or come back inside.

Now, I finally realize that there is no choice for me at all. I must remain a Catholic because if I leave the Church I give up my hope for heaven, and that would be unbearable to me.

And if I go back, I must go all the way back. I must accept all of it, because there's no accepting parts and rejecting other parts. The Catholic faith is either true or untrue, there is no middle ground where part of it is true and part of it isn't.

And the hardest part is I must give up the search for a woman to replace my wife. I cannot remarry, even though it means I will be alone for the rest of my life.

The alternative is finding such a woman, having a relationship with her, and believing I was in a state of adultery. That would be torment to me, and it wouldn't be fair to the woman.

You will note that I called the woman I was married to my wife, because in the eyes of Church, and the eyes of God, we are still married.

It was a sin not to fight for our marriage when she decided to leave me, because now she lives in a state of adultery. According to Jesus, when a man divorces his wife, he is forcing her to commit adultery, so her sin is also on him.

Knowing that, it is my duty as a Catholic to tell my wife that if she ever decides to leave her boyfriend, I will take her back.

All of this may seem weird to you, but it wasn't that long ago that every Christian believed that marriage was for life, and that divorce was impossible for a Christian couple.

Now, every Christian denomination except the Catholic Church allows divorce.

The Episcopalians have made it their mission to recruit divorced Catholics and give them a Catholic-lite experience that will make these Catholics feel they haven't really gone that far away from being Catholic.

The whole thing is a scam. The words of Jesus in the Bible can't be erased by men and women agreeing that sin is no longer sin.

And because I know the truth, I can't go down this road, because if I did, I'd be living a lie and giving up my hope for heaven.

I could get an annulment, but I still feel this is a corrupt practice that the Catholic Church engages in because the bishops want to keep divorced Catholics from leaving. Perhaps, if I spoke to a priest, he could explain it to me and change my mind.

What this means is a radical change in my way of doing things.

I will cancel my subscription to Match.com and other dating websites.

I will no longer date women looking for a replacement for my wife.

I will broach the delicate subject to my wife that I am willing to do what I can to repair our marriage, if that's what she wants. I don't expect her to want to repair our marriage in the immediate future, but maybe some day she will change her mind.

The reason I'm doing this is because there is no other choice for me.

Some people can close off their mind to logic, but I can't.

If the Catholic Church teaches the truth, and I believe it does, I must accept all of the truth or lose my chance for heaven.

After experiencing doubt tonight during my son's little spiel about Jesus on the elevator, I realize that I can't live without my faith.

I simply cannot live knowing that the way I'm living will mean I end up in hell.

If you are not Catholic, you might not understand any of this.

If you are Catholic, I hope that you will understand.

The Pope, the bishops, the priests, many of them are no longer fighting for the truth the Catholic Church stands for.

But that is no excuse for me. I must fight for the truth, in my own life.

My soul is my most precious possession. If I don't fight to save it, who will?

Jesus Christ will forgive you. And it was Roman Catholic priests who wrote the words to a chant whose last sentence declared that Jesus would "surprise the gates of hell" IOW, do your best and leave to Heaven the rest. No, I'm not a Roman Catholic. But I watched the Catholic Church declare a near atheist and mt pa-in-law a heaven-bound soul for a $40,000 contribution to a local Parrish in a state I am not going to mention to anyone. He was a lifelong protestant, but his daughter-in-law's priestly brother suggested a sainthood rank to cement the 3 granddaughters' affinity to be good church citizens. I can't condemn the idea but I do know that Christ himself took a cat o nine tails to some ambitious sellers of sacrificial doves in the House of the Lord a few weeks before they nailed him to a cross and tortured him to death with humility. Please be kind to yourself and do not worry too much if your efforts at reconciliation get stuffed in the crapper by your unforgiving ex. God looks on the heart. All else is dross. Let nothing stand between you and your obvious love and respect for the Lord.

 

[badger2]

Jesus has been dead for some time. There is also no god that looks at your heart.

 

[rightnow909]

Tonight, I was playing Dungeons & Dragons with my son and his friends. Between sessions, we got into a discussion about religion. My son went into a spiel about Jesus. He said that after Jesus died, he came down the elevator from Earth down to purgatory. He reprogrammed the computer and changed all the rules of the universe. The switch for what happens to unbaptized babies he left in the middle somewhere between heaven and purgatory, so no one could tell where it was. Then he went on to explain that changing water to wine, walking on water, and raise dead were spells in the Players Handbook, and that Jesus never cast any spells higher than a ninth level cleric.

I went into a dark and terrible mood. Later that night, my son took me home. I explained to him that what he had said made me feel that everything I believed, the entire Catholic religion, was a ridiculous theory that couldn't be proved. I told him that I needed the Catholic religion, since I had nothing else but heaven to look forward to. I broke down in tears and my son comforted me. He told me he hadn't been mocking the Catholic religion, just trying to explain in a way his friends would understand. Then he went home.

So I have made a decision.

I have spoken on this forum about how I am divorced and my Catholic faith forbids me to remarry unless I get an annulment.

I have spoken of my disillusionment with the Pope and the bishops.

I have spoken about how the sex scandal has made it hard to be a Catholic.

I have said the Catholic faith is leaving me, I'm not leaving the Catholic religion.

Now I have come to a decision.

I have dallied long enough at the doorway of the Catholic Church, trying to figure out whether to leave permanently or come back inside.

Now, I finally realize that there is no choice for me at all. I must remain a Catholic because if I leave the Church I give up my hope for heaven, and that would be unbearable to me.

And if I go back, I must go all the way back. I must accept all of it, because there's no accepting parts and rejecting other parts. The Catholic faith is either true or untrue, there is no middle ground where part of it is true and part of it isn't.

And the hardest part is I must give up the search for a woman to replace my wife. I cannot remarry, even though it means I will be alone for the rest of my life.

The alternative is finding such a woman, having a relationship with her, and believing I was in a state of adultery. That would be torment to me, and it wouldn't be fair to the woman.

You will note that I called the woman I was married to my wife, because in the eyes of Church, and the eyes of God, we are still married.

It was a sin not to fight for our marriage when she decided to leave me, because now she lives in a state of adultery. According to Jesus, when a man divorces his wife, he is forcing her to commit adultery, so her sin is also on him.

Knowing that, it is my duty as a Catholic to tell my wife that if she ever decides to leave her boyfriend, I will take her back.

All of this may seem weird to you, but it wasn't that long ago that every Christian believed that marriage was for life, and that divorce was impossible for a Christian couple.

Now, every Christian denomination except the Catholic Church allows divorce.

The Episcopalians have made it their mission to recruit divorced Catholics and give them a Catholic-lite experience that will make these Catholics feel they haven't really gone that far away from being Catholic.

The whole thing is a scam. The words of Jesus in the Bible can't be erased by men and women agreeing that sin is no longer sin.

And because I know the truth, I can't go down this road, because if I did, I'd be living a lie and giving up my hope for heaven.

I could get an annulment, but I still feel this is a corrupt practice that the Catholic Church engages in because the bishops want to keep divorced Catholics from leaving. Perhaps, if I spoke to a priest, he could explain it to me and change my mind.

What this means is a radical change in my way of doing things.

I will cancel my subscription to Match.com and other dating websites.

I will no longer date women looking for a replacement for my wife.

I will broach the delicate subject to my wife that I am willing to do what I can to repair our marriage, if that's what she wants. I don't expect her to want to repair our marriage in the immediate future, but maybe some day she will change her mind.

The reason I'm doing this is because there is no other choice for me.

Some people can close off their mind to logic, but I can't.

If the Catholic Church teaches the truth, and I believe it does, I must accept all of the truth or lose my chance for heaven.

After experiencing doubt tonight during my son's little spiel about Jesus on the elevator, I realize that I can't live without my faith.

I simply cannot live knowing that the way I'm living will mean I end up in hell.

If you are not Catholic, you might not understand any of this.

If you are Catholic, I hope that you will understand.

The Pope, the bishops, the priests, many of them are no longer fighting for the truth the Catholic Church stands for.

But that is no excuse for me. I must fight for the truth, in my own life.

My soul is my most precious possession. If I don't fight to save it, who will?

if i had read this 2 years ago I would "argue"

but I have seen much evil in the Church... The only worthy thing is the Real Presence and sometimes I think even that has been removed by the evil anti-Christs

"Even now there are many antiChrists"... it says in the Word


sigh

 

[rightnow909]

Jesus has been dead for some time. There is also no god that looks at your heart.

speak for yourself

Jesus is quite alive for me

 

[zaangalewa]

if i had read this 2 years ago I would "argue"

but I have seen much evil in the Church... The only worthy thing is the Real Presence and sometimes I think even that has been removed by the evil anti-Christs

"Even now there are many antiChrists"... it says in the Word


sigh

No one ever will be able to undo what the Christ had done. So what?