I've Decided To Start My Own Politcal Party -- Who Wants In?

It's also not their job to be hiring illegal aliens in the first place -- yet they do. Cheap labor is just too hard to resist for business owners with no integrity. It's a fairly humane approach, I think. Maybe not perfect, but I think it could be a bit more refined and even more effective.

Obviously, the Geico stuff isn't serious.
Well what you've basically told me is that what they're doing is wrong. Agreed. But I still don't get though how it's their job to encourage citizenship.

It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.
 
Well what you've basically told me is that what they're doing is wrong. Agreed. But I still don't get though how it's their job to encourage citizenship.

It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.
But you just said that it would apply to conservative business owners.
 
Well...that wouldn't be constitutional as I'm fairly sure that the adverts are protected as free speech. As for your immigration policy it's a little ridiculous. It's not a businesses job to meddle in the personal lives of employees and frankly people who are here illegally shouldn't just be let off free of charge. Otherwise though it seems like a pretty standard more leftist approach. It just doesn't seem like this party is selling a unique enough product.

It's also not their job to be hiring illegal aliens in the first place -- yet they do. Cheap labor is just too hard to resist for business owners with no integrity. It's a fairly humane approach, I think. Maybe not perfect, but I think it could be a bit more refined and even more effective.

Obviously, the Geico stuff isn't serious.
Well what you've basically told me is that what they're doing is wrong. Agreed. But I still don't get though how it's their job to encourage citizenship.

It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?

If the brown person is cheaper than an American, sure they would make do what it takes to make him legal. The question is, why should people who came here illegally get to sidestep the process that legal immigrants have to go through? The only way to become a legal immigrant should be through through the process we have already established, and even many of those should be curtailed.

If you believe it's not going to work, then why did you propose it in the first place?
 
Well what you've basically told me is that what they're doing is wrong. Agreed. But I still don't get though how it's their job to encourage citizenship.

It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.

And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?
 
It's also not their job to be hiring illegal aliens in the first place -- yet they do. Cheap labor is just too hard to resist for business owners with no integrity. It's a fairly humane approach, I think. Maybe not perfect, but I think it could be a bit more refined and even more effective.

Obviously, the Geico stuff isn't serious.
Well what you've basically told me is that what they're doing is wrong. Agreed. But I still don't get though how it's their job to encourage citizenship.

It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

It still seems like you're making two wrongs to make a right. Frankly I don't see any reason why we should feel any obligation to help these people. Why not just deport them and then seize the company's assets on the ground that the company was acting against the best interests of the people of this country?

Way, way too fascist. Sieze the company's assets? lol, wow.
Too fascist? As opposed to moderately fascist? Hmmm...well personally I think private property and the greater wellbeing of the masses are two ideas that are inherently opposed.

That's because you're an idiot. How did the masses fair in places where private property was abolished?
 
It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.
But you just said that it would apply to conservative business owners.

Because conservative biz owners would be the ones who decide to refuse to hire them to begin with. Liberal business owners would be more likely to help them become legal. So, the selfish, greedy conservative pigs who only wanted to HIRE illegal aliens under the table -- yet wouldn't ever in a million years actually help their illegal employee to become legal, would effectively act as a "brake."
 
All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.
But you just said that it would apply to conservative business owners.

Because conservative biz owners would be the ones who decide to refuse to hire them to begin with. Liberal business owners would be more likely to help them become legal. So, the selfish, greedy conservative pigs who only wanted to HIRE illegal aliens under the table -- yet wouldn't ever in a million years actually help their illegal employee to become legal, would effectively act as a "brake."

so you admit your plan is intended to convert illegals to legal as fast as possible. Why would any rational native born American support this plan?
 
No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.
But you just said that it would apply to conservative business owners.

Because conservative biz owners would be the ones who decide to refuse to hire them to begin with. Liberal business owners would be more likely to help them become legal. So, the selfish, greedy conservative pigs who only wanted to HIRE illegal aliens under the table -- yet wouldn't ever in a million years actually help their illegal employee to become legal, would effectively act as a "brake."

so you admit your plan is intended to convert illegals to legal as fast as possible. Why would any rational native born American support this plan?

When did I "admit" that? I came up with this in order to curtail illegal immigration. You don't stop the problem by building a wall, lol that's just a solution for low IQ idiots who don't understand how the world works. You slow the problem by decreasing incentive for illegals coming here in the first place. Right now they come here because they know that business owners will be willing to hire them. They come here knowing that they'll be able to find work somehow. But what if that were changed? If they know in advance that employers take a substantial risk in hiring them as the fines will be YUUUUGE, they'll know that only a handful of business owners might be willing to actually take them on and help them through the process. Those spots will be filled quickly, leaving many illegals no choice but to return home. They simply won't find enough work here. The next logical step would be to decide to go through the immigration process legally on their own.

Pretty genius, right?
 
It really isn't, but since so many people fucked it up for all of us, we're gonna make it their job. You have to appeal to their greed since we already know that greed is the reason why they hire cheap illegal labor in the first place. It's the old "carrot and stick" approach. Threatening with a punishment only won't work, you have to offer a reward for doing something positive, for doing the right thing.

It would also force them to think long and hard about hiring an illegal alien to begin with. The risk/reward ratio just might not be worth it for a lot of them. "If I hire Juan to wash dishes, I'm gonna have to help him become a legal citizen. If I hire him, pay him under the table, eventually I'll get caught and have to pay an enormous fine, and I can't afford a huge fine. Dammit! Arrggghhhhh why can't we have a Republican back in office like the good old days when we got away with this stuff?"

All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.

And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?

Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
 
All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.

And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?

Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
So open fire.
 
So, I decided that I'm gonna start my own party. I'm gonna call it, the "Squeegee Your Third Fucking Eye" party. Has a nice ring to it, right?

Here it is, in all its glory…

Bring Back The Middle Class:

Obviously, wall street and big corp will pay their fair share of taxes. American businesses that outsource manufacturing (like Trump’s businesses) will be punished relentlessly in taxes. Want to make your products in China? Fine, then move your business there. You won’t be operating in America, you greedy fucking pigs.

Universities raping students with outrageous tuitions that they can never pay off will be a distant memory. Universities charging such tuitions will be faced with usury fines as well as losing their educational status and will only be seen as for-profit corporations.

$15.00 and hour national minimum wage. Can’t afford to pay your workers fifteen bucks an hour? Then stop pretending to be a business owner, enroll in some basic business classes, and learn how to run a business ya twat. Or get the fuck out of here and start your business in Bangladesh were you belong.​

Immigration:

There will not -- and never will be -- a stupid fucking wall. However, things can be done a lot better in terms of immigration and curbing illegal immigration. Here's what I propose:

Illegal aliens from Mexico only come here because they KNOW they'll be able to find work. They don't come here to get on welfare or to use hospital ER's, or any other stupid right wing talking point. They come here because Mexico sucks balls and they come here as an act of desperation to get money to feed themselves and their families. Since it would be nearly impossible to police every business who knowingly hire illegal aliens, a better solution would be to offer a tax incentive for every illegal employee that they help to attain legal status, and to punish them if they don’t. If it is determined that an employer is knowingly employing an illegal alien longer than 30 days without helping them become legal, they will pay substantial fines. Such fines go towards health care.​

Health Care:

We're gonna have single payer health coverage. Period. End of story. However, the government may purchase services from private organizations. The fact that the USA does not have national health coverage is ridiculous. The days of patients and families being bankrupted by outrageous hospital bills are over. Big pharma will not be allowed to run commercials or advertise to the public, and the days of ripping off people (such as EpiPen) are fucking over.​

Death Penalty: Buh-bye death penalty. It’s been nice knowing you. You’re gone.

Sustainable Energy:

Huge incentives for innovations in the areas of clean energy and sustainability. The idea is to be 100% petroleum free within 15 years. We will do it with my plan. Fracking will also be eliminated.​

End the militarization of the police as well as police brutality.

We’re gonna end all imperialistic ventures, maintain a fairly strict policy of non-intervention unless absolutely necessary, take most of the money we spend on military defense and all of the money we spend on imprisoning citizens for petty drug offenses, and spend all of that money on feeding the poor and on education, so that no child ever goes hungry in this country ever again. We will decriminalize most drugs, like in Portugal, and drug abusers will be treated because they are sick -- not criminals.

Geico will not be allowed, ever, under any circumstances to run another commercial again.

If you drive slower than 75mph in the fast lane, you will be given a ticket for being an asshole. Second time offenses will require a 1 week drivers ed course, so you can learn how to fucking drive.

Texting and driving will result in a public spanking. These spankings will be televised. A little bit of humiliation is a good thing, especially if it keeps your disrespectful ass from swerving into my lane like a drunken Chinaman.

Sponsored links by Taboola will be outlawed from all websites.

Pass
 
No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.

And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?

Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
So open fire.

I'm starting to see how you used to belong to the alt-right..
 
All your plan would do is create a guaranteed process for turning illegal into legals. That isn't the aim of people who want to deport illegal aliens. We don't want them here in the first place, not turn them into voters at the fastest rate possible and encourage a flood of new illegals to cross the border.

You're an open borders douche bag traitor. If you think living around Mexicans is so great, then why don't you move to Mexico?

No, it wouldn't be a "guaranteed process for turning illegals into legals" because conservative business owners would simply decide not to hire them anymore, as they are all selfish assholes who would rather DIE than help a brown person from Mexico become legal. Get it?
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.
But you just said that it would apply to conservative business owners.

Because conservative biz owners would be the ones who decide to refuse to hire them to begin with. Liberal business owners would be more likely to help them become legal. So, the selfish, greedy conservative pigs who only wanted to HIRE illegal aliens under the table -- yet wouldn't ever in a million years actually help their illegal employee to become legal, would effectively act as a "brake."
Do you have any statistics to back this?
 
So if I registered as a democrat and did this I would be exempt or? How does this work? I mean I don't really see why we're obligated to help these people in any way.

No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.

And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?

Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
So open fire.

I'm starting to see how you used to belong to the alt-right..
Not an argument.
 
No, it doesn't matter what party you register as. If you are willing to break the law and hire an illegal alien, then you better be willing to either pay the fine for doing so, or be willing to help them become legal. Simple stuff dude. Get on board the SYTFE train.

And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?

Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
So open fire.

I'm starting to see how you used to belong to the alt-right..
Not an argument.

Sorry, is there an argument to "open fire?"

Nope.
 
When will you start lining people up on the beach who don't follow your faith? You left that part out.
 
And why shouldn't the illegal pay a penalty, like getting deported back to Mexico?

Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
So open fire.

I'm starting to see how you used to belong to the alt-right..
Not an argument.

Sorry, is there an argument to "open fire?"

Nope.
They are attempting a ground based invasion of a sovereign nation, and they're in flagrant violation of the law. Additionally this will prevent repeat offenses.
 
Because that doesn't work, obviously. They get deported back to Mexico, they simply just try to come here again.
So open fire.

I'm starting to see how you used to belong to the alt-right..
Not an argument.

Sorry, is there an argument to "open fire?"

Nope.
They are attempting a ground based invasion of a sovereign nation, and they're in flagrant violation of the law. Additionally this will prevent repeat offenses.

It's also unconstitutional as fuck, not that the alt-right cares about that stuff though.
 

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