“It will be my objective to phase out Social Security." - Sen. Mike Lee says the quiet part out loud.
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Doc7505
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When The Brits turn their monetary system to the decimal system, they also fazed out their Collective Defined Contribution (CDC) pension provision, (equivalent to Social Security) and replaced it with an updated plan which benefit those of age.
Now I'm not saying that we adopt the British plan.
What I'm saying that it's necessary to update our Social Security and Health program to suit the needs of present day Americans.
If the Brits could do it, why can't we?
Read more:
Millions of workers to benefit from modernised new pensions system
Millions of workers stand to benefit from greater financial security in later life following a consultation launched today.
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Labour to overhaul pension system with Britons in line for £11,000 retirement savings boost
The bill aims to raise the amount available for pension savers
www.gbnews.com
Irrelevant. Doesn't matter if I have a 5 million dollar nestegg waiting for me. My share of SS is due to me since I paid in to it.
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Gosh, I hope so. The old folks in Utah will flush him.
kyzr
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Most people should start a 401k, if they don't that is their problem.
SS is not a joke, it works. There is nothing better.
As I said back on post #8, most SS money coming in gets paid out as benefits, there is no money to invest in Bitcoin, or the stock market.
Those are the ponzi schemes.
Looks like the Democratic party meeting in 2024. This is why you lost.
pknopp
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The stock market only still exists because of constant bail outs. Bail out that create inflation.
WEATHER53
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So you don’t own any
Thanks for complaining jealously
pknopp
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Why not address what I actually said? (No need to answer as it's a rhetorical question). If confused get someone to explain that to you.
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That is factual. Bush had 6 ways to change social security to guarantee it survives. Biden and Obama have not come up with any solutions other than watch SS go bankrupt.
Toddsterpatriot
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Oh, so now it's welfare.
Toddsterpatriot
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That's awful!
What Social Security cutting legislation has he introduced in the Senate? Link?
Toddsterpatriot
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They'd better hurry, the funds are running out.
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Dollars falling from the sky would be a good thing too.
“In repeatedly quoting my 2010 remarks today, President Biden conveniently left out that critical detail – that even when I voiced that position, I insisted that we honor the reliance interests of those who have paid into the system,” said Lee. “He also ignored in my 12 years in the Senate, I have never proposed abolishing Social Security, Medicare, or Medicaid benefits. Instead, I have offered solutions to improve those programs and move them toward solvency.”
The devil is in the details. What is his plan for "improve those programs and move them toward solvency.”?
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President Bush worked hard on this problem. This is from former President Bush. GW that is.
President Acts to Protect Pensions and Retirement Security
Radio Address by the President to the Nation
Fact Sheet
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. I want to discuss with you steps we are taking to help strengthen the retirement security of America's workers. More than 40 million Americans save for retirement through 401(k) accounts, making regular contributions and building economic security over a lifetime. A 401(k) provides a chance to invest in the long-term growth of the American economy and an opportunity to build wealth and independence.
Today's workers own more then $1.5 trillion in assets through their 401(k)s. Younger workers have an average of about $10,000 in their accounts, while workers near retirement hold closer to $100,000 in their 401(k)s. This is real money for real workers and we must do all we can to help make sure it's there for them when they retire.
Turbulence in the financial markets reminds us that every investment carries some risk. Yet American workers also have rights which must be respected and enforced. I've made five common-sense proposals to help protect the retirement savings of American workers.
First, every worker should get 30 days advance notice before any blackout period -- the time when they cannot sell, buy or borrow from their 401(k)s.
Second, corporate executives should have to follow the same rules that every other employee must follow during blackout periods. If you can't sell on the shop floor, you should not be able to sell on the top floor.
Third, workers should be able to sell their company stock after holding it for three years so that no one's nest egg is tied up in the stock of a single company.
Fourth, investors should receive better information, including quarterly -- not just yearly -- reports on how their 401(k)s are performing.
And, fifth, workers should have access to professional investment advice so they can make more informed decisions about their savings.
The United States Congress has passed only two of these proposals -- giving workers advance notice of blackout periods and holding executives to the same rules as their employees. I signed these reforms into law.
On Monday my administration is implementing that law with tough new rules to require that companies give their workers 30 days notice before any blackout period. Under the new rule, employees will have time to buy or sell stock or borrow from their accounts before the accounts are temporarily frozen. This important protection will help ensure that workers don't get stuck in a bad investment simply because their employers block them from accessing their own accounts.
The Securities and Exchange Commission is also working on a new rule to prevent corporate executives from selling off their own holdings of company stock when employees are kept from doing so. Corporate executives will no longer be able to sell off their company's declining stock while employees are left holding the bag. Both of these rules will take effect early next year and give workers greater protections against corporate fraud or abuse.
These rules are a step forward in protecting the rights of investors. More steps are needed. My three additional proposals -- allowing more diversity in 401(k) accounts, and more frequent account updates, and advice for workers -- have already passed in the House. But after six months, the Senate has not acted. For the sake of American workers who are concerned about their retirement security I urge the Senate to pass the rest of my proposals into law. People who work hard and save for the future deserve every protection we can give them.
Thank you for listening.
President Acts to Protect Pensions and Retirement Security
Radio Address by the President to the Nation
THE PRESIDENT: Good morning. I want to discuss with you steps we are taking to help strengthen the retirement security of America's workers. More than 40 million Americans save for retirement through 401(k) accounts, making regular contributions and building economic security over a lifetime. A 401(k) provides a chance to invest in the long-term growth of the American economy and an opportunity to build wealth and independence.
Today's workers own more then $1.5 trillion in assets through their 401(k)s. Younger workers have an average of about $10,000 in their accounts, while workers near retirement hold closer to $100,000 in their 401(k)s. This is real money for real workers and we must do all we can to help make sure it's there for them when they retire.
Turbulence in the financial markets reminds us that every investment carries some risk. Yet American workers also have rights which must be respected and enforced. I've made five common-sense proposals to help protect the retirement savings of American workers.
First, every worker should get 30 days advance notice before any blackout period -- the time when they cannot sell, buy or borrow from their 401(k)s.
Second, corporate executives should have to follow the same rules that every other employee must follow during blackout periods. If you can't sell on the shop floor, you should not be able to sell on the top floor.
Third, workers should be able to sell their company stock after holding it for three years so that no one's nest egg is tied up in the stock of a single company.
Fourth, investors should receive better information, including quarterly -- not just yearly -- reports on how their 401(k)s are performing.
And, fifth, workers should have access to professional investment advice so they can make more informed decisions about their savings.
The United States Congress has passed only two of these proposals -- giving workers advance notice of blackout periods and holding executives to the same rules as their employees. I signed these reforms into law.
On Monday my administration is implementing that law with tough new rules to require that companies give their workers 30 days notice before any blackout period. Under the new rule, employees will have time to buy or sell stock or borrow from their accounts before the accounts are temporarily frozen. This important protection will help ensure that workers don't get stuck in a bad investment simply because their employers block them from accessing their own accounts.
The Securities and Exchange Commission is also working on a new rule to prevent corporate executives from selling off their own holdings of company stock when employees are kept from doing so. Corporate executives will no longer be able to sell off their company's declining stock while employees are left holding the bag. Both of these rules will take effect early next year and give workers greater protections against corporate fraud or abuse.
These rules are a step forward in protecting the rights of investors. More steps are needed. My three additional proposals -- allowing more diversity in 401(k) accounts, and more frequent account updates, and advice for workers -- have already passed in the House. But after six months, the Senate has not acted. For the sake of American workers who are concerned about their retirement security I urge the Senate to pass the rest of my proposals into law. People who work hard and save for the future deserve every protection we can give them.
Thank you for listening.
You better have a plan that's better or you can tell working people who paid into it that they're stuck. Screwed.
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