Israel's "Genocide" Of Palestinians

[Sixties Fan]

Ok, so the above sentence means that they did not invade (although the word Invasion is the third word in it) and that all of those military forces simply "entered" Palestine on May 15, 1948.

Was it like a tourist event, from all those countries, on the same day?
Was there a convention held on some part of newly Independent State of Israel, that all of those people, from all five countries simply "entered" Palestine?

Here is the rest of the paragraph after the word Palestine

" - Jordan having declared privately to Yishuvemissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state.[12] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements"


"Nowhere" does it say that the five Arab countries invaded Israel on May 15th, 1948?

The bottom line is that nobody invaded Israel as Israeli propaganda states. It is just another of Israel's looooooong list of lies.

And your evidence of it comes from where to refute what you call Israeli Propaganda ?

Merely saying that it is "Israeli Propaganda" because you may have read it somewhere that one should call it that, does it make it so?

I would like you to present the evidence that the Arab countries's armies stayed put in their countries on May 15th, 1948, and it was Israel upon declaring Independence, decided to invade all of those countries in order to what (?)......take more land ?

Against such a large population of Muslims living in all of those countries?

You do have sources to provide for me, do you not?
Photos and videos as well.
International news clips stating that Israel possibly went mad the day after it declared Independence and decided to take as much land from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as it could?

Holy mindless rant, Batman. Since I cannot prove a negative, how about you posting a 1948 map of Israel and we can discuss where any of the Arab armies entered?

Here is a good sized map of what happened.

Israel - Map of Arab Invasion - War of Independence 1948


Kindly answer this:

The Arabs were already fighting the Jews after the UN officially
recognized Israel as a country ready to sustain itself and be self-governing in November of 1947.

The battles between them were still on going when Israel declared Independence on May 15, 1948.

Why not simply defeat the Arabs fighting within what had become Israel on that day and make sure that borders would be secure?

Why not invade only one other Arab country, especially Jordan
(TransJordan was to be part of the State of Israel per the Mandate for Palestine in 1920. The British changed the rules and gave it to the Arab Hashemites)

When the Germans started WWI or WWII, they invaded only one front at a time.

What would Israel have achieved, in the middle of fighting the Arabs within its borders, by invading not only one, not two, not three, not four, but five of the Arab countries all at the same time?

The Muslim and Christian Palestinians were defending themselves from Jewish attacks on Palestinian villages, towns and cities within the Arab partition. Jaffa, for example, had been under siege by the Jews for weeks and surrendered before the Arab League intervened (or Israel declared itself a state). The Arab League intervened to try to stop the Jewish attacks and eviction of the Muslims and Christians from the Arab sector. The Arab League only entered the Arab and international sector to prevent the Jewish massacres of Muslims and Christians.

What Arab Partition?
The one from the UN the Arabs did not accept?
The Partition which meant nothing to the Arabs because they
considered the whole area still Muslim land, in which only Muslims were allowed to be sovereign of?

That Partition?

Jewish massacres of "unarmed" Muslims ( and Christians) who had not started that war in November of 1947 after the Arabs rejected the UN Partition.
Only to add the Arab league countries which also could not accept a non Muslim sovereign country on land once conquered by Muslims.

Study and learn Arab and Muslim thinking.

It is all there in their writings for the past 1400 years.

 

[teddyearp]

· Israeli arms sales to Europe grew from $724M in 2014 to $1.63B in 2015<snip>

You seem to be good at spamming the board with your same post in several threads; copied and pasted. And without a link to back it up.

Try again.

 

[teddyearp]

There were approximately 600,000 Jews living in Palestine in 1948, now there are over 6 million. They grew at twice the rate of the Palestinians. Without the slow genocide there should be 12,000,000 Palestinians.

Ever heard of Aliyah?

 

[teddyearp]

 

[teddyearp]

What this thread is about is the Nakba <snip>

No it is not. This thread has been clearly started to refute the false claims of some sort of 'Palestinian' 'genocide' which the numbers clearly prove wrong.

It is only you that has tried to deflect and derail it to your so called 'nakba'. But as you have clearly shown most of us here, your intent and posting style is not to have intelligent discourse; no, your intent is to intentionally spread discord and spark anger.

 

[teddyearp]

Israel destroys homes. Israel destroys crops, trees, livestock, and farmland. Israel destroys wells and cisterns.

These are all acts of genocide.

Prove where this has been done without provocation.

 

[P F Tinmore]

From your link:

A combined invasion by Egypt, Jordan and Syria, together with expeditionary forces from Iraq, entered Palestine​

Nowhere does it say that Israel was invaded. You need to brush up on your reading comprehension.

Ok, so the above sentence means that they did not invade (although the word Invasion is the third word in it) and that all of those military forces simply "entered" Palestine on May 15, 1948.

Was it like a tourist event, from all those countries, on the same day?
Was there a convention held on some part of newly Independent State of Israel, that all of those people, from all five countries simply "entered" Palestine?

Here is the rest of the paragraph after the word Palestine

" - Jordan having declared privately to Yishuvemissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state.[12] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements"


"Nowhere" does it say that the five Arab countries invaded Israel on May 15th, 1948?

The bottom line is that nobody invaded Israel as Israeli propaganda states. It is just another of Israel's looooooong list of lies.

And your evidence of it comes from where to refute what you call Israeli Propaganda ?

Merely saying that it is "Israeli Propaganda" because you may have read it somewhere that one should call it that, does it make it so?

I would like you to present the evidence that the Arab countries's armies stayed put in their countries on May 15th, 1948, and it was Israel upon declaring Independence, decided to invade all of those countries in order to what (?)......take more land ?

Against such a large population of Muslims living in all of those countries?

You do have sources to provide for me, do you not?
Photos and videos as well.
International news clips stating that Israel possibly went mad the day after it declared Independence and decided to take as much land from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as it could?

Holy mindless rant, Batman. Since I cannot prove a negative, how about you posting a 1948 map of Israel and we can discuss where any of the Arab armies entered?

Here is a good sized map of what happened.

Israel - Map of Arab Invasion - War of Independence 1948

http://www.zionism-israel.com/maps/Israel_1948_1.htm
So you post a map of Palestine modified by an Israeli propaganda site. Is this supposed to prove something?

Kindly answer this:

The Arabs were already fighting the Jews after the UN officially
recognized Israel as a country ready to sustain itself and be self-governing in November of 1947.

Resolution 181 was rejected and never implemented by the Security Council. The UN didn't recognize anything.

The battles between them were still on going when Israel declared Independence on May 15, 1948.

Why not simply defeat the Arabs fighting within what had become Israel on that day and make sure that borders would be secure?

Why not invade only one other Arab country, especially Jordan
(TransJordan was to be part of the State of Israel per the Mandate for Palestine in 1920. The British changed the rules and gave it to the Arab Hashemites)

When the Germans started WWI or WWII, they invaded only one front at a time.

What would Israel have achieved, in the middle of fighting the Arabs within its borders, by invading not only one, not two, not three, not four, but five of the Arab countries all at the same time?

You put Israel and borders in the same sentence.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Ok, so the above sentence means that they did not invade (although the word Invasion is the third word in it) and that all of those military forces simply "entered" Palestine on May 15, 1948.

Was it like a tourist event, from all those countries, on the same day?
Was there a convention held on some part of newly Independent State of Israel, that all of those people, from all five countries simply "entered" Palestine?

Here is the rest of the paragraph after the word Palestine

" - Jordan having declared privately to Yishuvemissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state.[12] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements"


"Nowhere" does it say that the five Arab countries invaded Israel on May 15th, 1948?

The bottom line is that nobody invaded Israel as Israeli propaganda states. It is just another of Israel's looooooong list of lies.

And your evidence of it comes from where to refute what you call Israeli Propaganda ?

Merely saying that it is "Israeli Propaganda" because you may have read it somewhere that one should call it that, does it make it so?

I would like you to present the evidence that the Arab countries's armies stayed put in their countries on May 15th, 1948, and it was Israel upon declaring Independence, decided to invade all of those countries in order to what (?)......take more land ?

Against such a large population of Muslims living in all of those countries?

You do have sources to provide for me, do you not?
Photos and videos as well.
International news clips stating that Israel possibly went mad the day after it declared Independence and decided to take as much land from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as it could?

Holy mindless rant, Batman. Since I cannot prove a negative, how about you posting a 1948 map of Israel and we can discuss where any of the Arab armies entered?

Here is a good sized map of what happened.

Israel - Map of Arab Invasion - War of Independence 1948

So you post a map of Palestine modified by an Israeli propaganda site. Is this supposed to prove something?

Kindly answer this:

The Arabs were already fighting the Jews after the UN officially
recognized Israel as a country ready to sustain itself and be self-governing in November of 1947.

Resolution 181 was rejected and never implemented by the Security Council. The UN didn't recognize anything.

The battles between them were still on going when Israel declared Independence on May 15, 1948.

Why not simply defeat the Arabs fighting within what had become Israel on that day and make sure that borders would be secure?

Why not invade only one other Arab country, especially Jordan
(TransJordan was to be part of the State of Israel per the Mandate for Palestine in 1920. The British changed the rules and gave it to the Arab Hashemites)

When the Germans started WWI or WWII, they invaded only one front at a time.

What would Israel have achieved, in the middle of fighting the Arabs within its borders, by invading not only one, not two, not three, not four, but five of the Arab countries all at the same time?

You put Israel and borders in the same sentence.

Had the Arabs accepted the Partition, there would have been borders.

And no, it is not cookoooooooooo

The armistice lines is what ended up happening after the battles ended in 1949.

Israel does have borders with Jordan and Egypt due to the Peace Treaty.

Gaza does have a "border" with Israel and with Egypt.

The whole of the Mandate for Palestine was to become Israel.

The Arabs chose war from 1920 on, and to do everything they could to
keep the Jews from achieving a State.

Laugh your head off

 

[Sixties Fan]

Ok, so the above sentence means that they did not invade (although the word Invasion is the third word in it) and that all of those military forces simply "entered" Palestine on May 15, 1948.

Was it like a tourist event, from all those countries, on the same day?
Was there a convention held on some part of newly Independent State of Israel, that all of those people, from all five countries simply "entered" Palestine?

Here is the rest of the paragraph after the word Palestine

" - Jordan having declared privately to Yishuvemissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state.[12] The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements"


"Nowhere" does it say that the five Arab countries invaded Israel on May 15th, 1948?

The bottom line is that nobody invaded Israel as Israeli propaganda states. It is just another of Israel's looooooong list of lies.

And your evidence of it comes from where to refute what you call Israeli Propaganda ?

Merely saying that it is "Israeli Propaganda" because you may have read it somewhere that one should call it that, does it make it so?

I would like you to present the evidence that the Arab countries's armies stayed put in their countries on May 15th, 1948, and it was Israel upon declaring Independence, decided to invade all of those countries in order to what (?)......take more land ?

Against such a large population of Muslims living in all of those countries?

You do have sources to provide for me, do you not?
Photos and videos as well.
International news clips stating that Israel possibly went mad the day after it declared Independence and decided to take as much land from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as it could?

Holy mindless rant, Batman. Since I cannot prove a negative, how about you posting a 1948 map of Israel and we can discuss where any of the Arab armies entered?

Here is a good sized map of what happened.

Israel - Map of Arab Invasion - War of Independence 1948

So you post a map of Palestine modified by an Israeli propaganda site. Is this supposed to prove something?

Kindly answer this:

The Arabs were already fighting the Jews after the UN officially
recognized Israel as a country ready to sustain itself and be self-governing in November of 1947.

Resolution 181 was rejected and never implemented by the Security Council. The UN didn't recognize anything.

The battles between them were still on going when Israel declared Independence on May 15, 1948.

Why not simply defeat the Arabs fighting within what had become Israel on that day and make sure that borders would be secure?

Why not invade only one other Arab country, especially Jordan
(TransJordan was to be part of the State of Israel per the Mandate for Palestine in 1920. The British changed the rules and gave it to the Arab Hashemites)

When the Germans started WWI or WWII, they invaded only one front at a time.

What would Israel have achieved, in the middle of fighting the Arabs within its borders, by invading not only one, not two, not three, not four, but five of the Arab countries all at the same time?

You put Israel and borders in the same sentence.

The map comes from the US Military.
Are you questioning the US Military now?
Look at the bottom right of the map, what it says.
Can you deal with what the map shows?
Or is it easier to continue to reject facts and just go with the
conspiracy theory sites you so enjoy reading?


Wrong!
The Partition was accepted by the Jews.
The UN recognized Israel as a State because they were ready for it.
And then, and only then, Israel declared Independence on May 14, 1948.

The Arabs started this turn of wars, the last one was from 1936 to 1939, in November 1947, right after they rejected the partition.

They rejected the Partition AND lost the five Arab countries invasion of Israel in order to destroy it.

Consolation prize?
Egypt took Gaza.
TranJordan took Judea, Samaria and the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem
for the next 19 years.
During all of that time they never bothered to give any of that land to the other Arabs in that area so that could build a state, or be autonomous on it.

Why wouldn't the Arab League give that land to the Arab population living on those areas from 1948 to 1967?

 

[ForeverYoung436]

The bottom line is that nobody invaded Israel as Israeli propaganda states. It is just another of Israel's looooooong list of lies.

And your evidence of it comes from where to refute what you call Israeli Propaganda ?

Merely saying that it is "Israeli Propaganda" because you may have read it somewhere that one should call it that, does it make it so?

I would like you to present the evidence that the Arab countries's armies stayed put in their countries on May 15th, 1948, and it was Israel upon declaring Independence, decided to invade all of those countries in order to what (?)......take more land ?

Against such a large population of Muslims living in all of those countries?

You do have sources to provide for me, do you not?
Photos and videos as well.
International news clips stating that Israel possibly went mad the day after it declared Independence and decided to take as much land from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as it could?

Holy mindless rant, Batman. Since I cannot prove a negative, how about you posting a 1948 map of Israel and we can discuss where any of the Arab armies entered?

Here is a good sized map of what happened.

Israel - Map of Arab Invasion - War of Independence 1948

So you post a map of Palestine modified by an Israeli propaganda site. Is this supposed to prove something?

Kindly answer this:

The Arabs were already fighting the Jews after the UN officially
recognized Israel as a country ready to sustain itself and be self-governing in November of 1947.

Resolution 181 was rejected and never implemented by the Security Council. The UN didn't recognize anything.

The battles between them were still on going when Israel declared Independence on May 15, 1948.

Why not simply defeat the Arabs fighting within what had become Israel on that day and make sure that borders would be secure?

Why not invade only one other Arab country, especially Jordan
(TransJordan was to be part of the State of Israel per the Mandate for Palestine in 1920. The British changed the rules and gave it to the Arab Hashemites)

When the Germans started WWI or WWII, they invaded only one front at a time.

What would Israel have achieved, in the middle of fighting the Arabs within its borders, by invading not only one, not two, not three, not four, but five of the Arab countries all at the same time?

You put Israel and borders in the same sentence.

Had the Arabs accepted the Partition, there would have been borders.

And no, it is not cookoooooooooo

The armistice lines is what ended up happening after the battles ended in 1949.

Israel does have borders with Jordan and Egypt due to the Peace Treaty.

Gaza does have a "border" with Israel and with Egypt.

The whole of the Mandate for Palestine was to become Israel.

The Arabs chose war from 1920 on, and to do everything they could to
keep the Jews from achieving a State.

Laugh your head off

You have yet to learn that Tinmore has a "thing" with borders, in particular. One of the reasons Israel is not a "real country" to him is that she supposedly has no borders. It has already been pointed out to him that Israel has internationally-recognized borders with Jordan and Egypt because of the Peace Treaties, and the U.N. determined Israel's border with Lebanon when they pulled out of there in the year 2000. This has made no impression on him whatsoever. According to him, Israel "has no land." It's like going back to College Philosophy 101, and learning the ideas of Bertrand Russell.

 

[Sixties Fan]

And your evidence of it comes from where to refute what you call Israeli Propaganda ?

Merely saying that it is "Israeli Propaganda" because you may have read it somewhere that one should call it that, does it make it so?

I would like you to present the evidence that the Arab countries's armies stayed put in their countries on May 15th, 1948, and it was Israel upon declaring Independence, decided to invade all of those countries in order to what (?)......take more land ?

Against such a large population of Muslims living in all of those countries?

You do have sources to provide for me, do you not?
Photos and videos as well.
International news clips stating that Israel possibly went mad the day after it declared Independence and decided to take as much land from Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Jordan as it could?

Holy mindless rant, Batman. Since I cannot prove a negative, how about you posting a 1948 map of Israel and we can discuss where any of the Arab armies entered?

Here is a good sized map of what happened.

Israel - Map of Arab Invasion - War of Independence 1948

So you post a map of Palestine modified by an Israeli propaganda site. Is this supposed to prove something?

Kindly answer this:

The Arabs were already fighting the Jews after the UN officially
recognized Israel as a country ready to sustain itself and be self-governing in November of 1947.

Resolution 181 was rejected and never implemented by the Security Council. The UN didn't recognize anything.

The battles between them were still on going when Israel declared Independence on May 15, 1948.

Why not simply defeat the Arabs fighting within what had become Israel on that day and make sure that borders would be secure?

Why not invade only one other Arab country, especially Jordan
(TransJordan was to be part of the State of Israel per the Mandate for Palestine in 1920. The British changed the rules and gave it to the Arab Hashemites)

When the Germans started WWI or WWII, they invaded only one front at a time.

What would Israel have achieved, in the middle of fighting the Arabs within its borders, by invading not only one, not two, not three, not four, but five of the Arab countries all at the same time?

You put Israel and borders in the same sentence.

Had the Arabs accepted the Partition, there would have been borders.

And no, it is not cookoooooooooo

The armistice lines is what ended up happening after the battles ended in 1949.

Israel does have borders with Jordan and Egypt due to the Peace Treaty.

Gaza does have a "border" with Israel and with Egypt.

The whole of the Mandate for Palestine was to become Israel.

The Arabs chose war from 1920 on, and to do everything they could to
keep the Jews from achieving a State.

Laugh your head off

You have yet to learn that Tinmore has a "thing" with borders, in particular. One of the reasons Israel is not a "real country" to him is that she supposedly has no borders. It has already been pointed out to him that Israel has internationally-recognized borders with Jordan and Egypt because of the Peace Treaties, and the U.N. determined Israel's border with Lebanon when they pulled out of there in the year 2000. This has made no impression on him whatsoever. According to him, Israel "has no land." It's like going back to College Philosophy 101, and learning the ideas of Bertrand Russell.

It does not matter what he thinks.
He swallowed conspiracy theories and clearly does not like Jews and Israel.
It is no different from all the other conspiracy theories against Jews and Israel I have read before.

Jews are not Jews and Israel does not exist because some people who hate Jews decided that.
The rest simply followed them.

And Israel goes on

 

[P F Tinmore]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Wrong!
The Partition was accepted by the Jews.

It doesn't matter. It was rejected and the Security Council did not implement it. It did nothing.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

It is the map of the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
The British chose that name instead of Israel as it should have been.
They could have called it anything they wanted, because as the winners of WWI, they made the decisions, including going against article 5 of the Mandate and give 77% of the Mandate to non Jews - The Hashemite clan which had been expelled from Arabia by the Saud clan.

 

[Indeependent]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

It is the map of the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
The British chose that name instead of Israel as it should have been.
They could have called it anything they wanted, because as the winners of WWI, they made the decisions, including going against article 5 of the Mandate and give 77% of the Mandate to non Jews - The Hashemite clan which had been expelled from Arabia by the Saud clan.

I hope you realize you're attempting to communicate with mentally and emotionally disturbed Jew haters.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

It is the map of the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
The British chose that name instead of Israel as it should have been.
They could have called it anything they wanted, because as the winners of WWI, they made the decisions, including going against article 5 of the Mandate and give 77% of the Mandate to non Jews - The Hashemite clan which had been expelled from Arabia by the Saud clan.

Read

Learn

UN Resolution 181 - The Partition Plan

 

[Sixties Fan]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

It is the map of the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE
The British chose that name instead of Israel as it should have been.
They could have called it anything they wanted, because as the winners of WWI, they made the decisions, including going against article 5 of the Mandate and give 77% of the Mandate to non Jews - The Hashemite clan which had been expelled from Arabia by the Saud clan.

I hope you realize you're attempting to communicate with mentally and emotionally disturbed Jew haters.

Nothing new

 

[MJB12741]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

Call it what you want. Still the Jews were indigenous Palestinians thousands of years before any Muslim Palestinian squatters on Israel's land.

 

[Indeependent]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

Call it what you want. Still the Jews were indigenous Palestinians thousands of years before any Muslim Palestinian squatters on Israel's land.

You actually take Tinless seriously?

 

[Sixties Fan]

The map comes from the US Military.

So, it is still the map of Palestine.

Call it what you want. Still the Jews were indigenous Palestinians thousands of years before any Muslim Palestinian squatters on Israel's land.

You actually take Tinless seriously?

I would like to know what his sources are.

And in the meantime, post the links that need to be posted.
Posters can make up their own mind about what is being written.