I'm fully aware of your position, that led me to my previous post of which we are not just focusing on Israel but on the Palestinians because it's always possible to expect Israel to compromise - therefore we face the a crucial issue in the conflict which is the Palestinians.I have always said Danny the there should be an Israel,I am Pragmatic enough to know that.........Israel are going no where,I just want to see a 2 state solution where there is Peace for both peoples..........Lets hope it happens...despite all that is said,fundamentally the majority on both sides are good people indeed.steveHere is a challenge - name one step the Palestinians ever made for their sake.The Israelis will prevent any sea or air access and you know itI think you should produce evidence of this agreement.That post had content -- I'm sure.. About 80 proof !!!!
So anytime you need to reminded that the deal for an Autonomous Gaza included a buffer zone -- or why Palestinians don't have rights of citizenship in any country -- you just ring me up... I'll also call you a cab if we have to..
How come there's so much evidence? Because Israel shoots at a lot of fishermen. And there's nothing wrong with journalists on a boat. Furthermore, Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and therefore, cannot exclude Palestinian fishermen from accessing these waters.
Israel telling the Pals where they can (and cannot) fish, is like you coming over to my house and telling me what's what under my own roof. Do you not see how wrong that is? You have no right telling people what to do on their own property. If you think you do, then come over to my house and try to pull that shit with me.
Until Gaza implements implements an Internationally APPROVED customs and border service --- they have no claim to an "open border" or unfettered smuggling. Essentially they are currently "lawless" in terms of International compliance. And their neighbors can certainly claim security concerns and take steps to PREVENT entrance of items that are forbidden by International agreements. Even if Gaza is not a party to those agreements.
All of this is pretty much off-topic and I can understand why you are BORED with the original flimsy lying ass OP.. Since THAT is such a minor dust-up (punny) compared with the Gaza Sanctions and trade restrictions. Maybe your couch warrior team should concentrate on picking more important topics and OPs..
Billo does not rule the world --- yet. And these security concerns are NOT JUST ISRAELI BS.. The rest of the world recognizes the need to have regular order on the borders of Gaza. Go blame the EU or NATO..
http://www.kyivpost.com/article/con...aza-arms-smuggling-aired-at-meeting-34997.htm
A senior Western diplomat said the countries, all NATO members, broadly agreed on a number of points and hoped to be able to produce a formal document or a programme of action at the next meeting in Britain in early March.
"We are not ready to adopt it yet, but we are going to meet in London in a few weeks' time and I hope that that will produce this agreed document over what it is we want to do," the diplomat said.
Civil servants from a majority of the countries agreed the use of naval force would be necessary to effectively halt the inflow of weapons to Gaza, although several countries opposed the use of military force, the senior diplomat said.
No political decisions were taken at the two-day meeting, which focused more on the routes weapons follow from their origin through the Red Sea towards the Gaza Strip than smuggling from tunnels between Egypt and the Palestinian enclave.
The senior diplomat said the conference had agreed on a number of points, including the need for cooperation in intelligence gathering and diplomatic actions to curb the flow of illicit arms into Gaza.
European Union Offers To Take Charge Of Gaza Borders (Did I miss the thread on THIS news item??? )
BRUSSELS (AP) — The European Union offered Friday to take charge of Gaza's border crossings and work to prevent illegal arms flows, insisting on a durable truce and saying a return to the status quo before the latest war "is not an option."
As EU foreign ministers held an urgent meeting in Brussels about global conflicts, Hamas negotiators met with the Islamic militant group's leadership in Qatar to discuss a proposal for a long-term truce with Israel. An official said the group was inclined to accept the Egyptian-mediated offer.
The Gaza blockade remains the main stumbling block. It has greatly limited the movement of Palestinians in and out of the territory of 1.8 million people, restricted the flow of goods into Gaza and blocked virtually all exports.
The EU is prepared "to play a strong role" in managing the crossings while assuring that Israel's security is guaranteed, said the 28-nation bloc's foreign policy chief, Catherine Ashton.
The EU foreign ministers said the bloc is also prepared to prevent arms smuggling and launch a training program for Palestinian Authority police and customs officers to be deployed in Gaza. (as bro FlaCalTenn just told you)
Stop insisting that this is just an UNJUSTIFIED CONCERN of Israel and start realizing that the Palis need to step up to accepting responsibilities that EVERY nation must live by..
Can't find any? I know, me neither.
Unfortunately as for now the WHOLE Palestinian and anti-Israeli campaign is established upon making as many holes in the boat while they can, what would be the only step Israel could take when abandoning the ship is not an option?
I think you should produce evidence of this agreement.That post had content -- I'm sure.. About 80 proof !!!!
So anytime you need to reminded that the deal for an Autonomous Gaza included a buffer zone -- or why Palestinians don't have rights of citizenship in any country -- you just ring me up... I'll also call you a cab if we have to..
How come there's so much evidence? Because Israel shoots at a lot of fishermen. And there's nothing wrong with journalists on a boat. Furthermore, Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and therefore, cannot exclude Palestinian fishermen from accessing these waters.
Israel telling the Pals where they can (and cannot) fish, is like you coming over to my house and telling me what's what under my own roof. Do you not see how wrong that is? You have no right telling people what to do on their own property. If you think you do, then come over to my house and try to pull that shit with me.
Now prove it never happened.
I think you should produce evidence of this agreement.That post had content -- I'm sure.. About 80 proof !!!!
So anytime you need to reminded that the deal for an Autonomous Gaza included a buffer zone -- or why Palestinians don't have rights of citizenship in any country -- you just ring me up... I'll also call you a cab if we have to..
How come there's so much evidence? Because Israel shoots at a lot of fishermen. And there's nothing wrong with journalists on a boat. Furthermore, Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and therefore, cannot exclude Palestinian fishermen from accessing these waters.
Israel telling the Pals where they can (and cannot) fish, is like you coming over to my house and telling me what's what under my own roof. Do you not see how wrong that is? You have no right telling people what to do on their own property. If you think you do, then come over to my house and try to pull that shit with me.
Furthermore, Israel has no jurisdiction in international waters and therefore, cannot exclude Palestinian fishermen from accessing these waters.
It appears that they can.
Answer my god-damn question!
You keep saying that, but every time they try, Israel attacks.
WTF you talking about "LEGIT" government?
