Israel Demolishes Iran Nuclear Manufacturing Plant

[surada]

Yeah, Nasser continually fucked up, didn't he?
Maybe he shouldn't have asked the UN peacekeepers to leave?

Do you have any constructive criticism for the Iranian mullahs?

Anything they could improve upon?

I don't think much of the Mullahs, but in Shia Islam they are considered infallible.

Israel cost Nasser financing for the Aswan dam with their false flag to kill Americans in Cairo. Brought on the Suez crisis which hurt US consumers.

 

[surada]

Don't let the door hit you.......

Iran, I'm sure, would welcome you. They love Jews, right?

Jews lived in Persia for more than 2000 years and until quite recently there were 250,000 Jews in Iran.

 

[Rigby5]

In MA I do not have that authority even on my property. The police also are not threatening me with death and rape of my kids just with arrest and or a fine. False conflation. Mohammed took what he wanted by force not by elected officials who gave him that right. Another false conflation.

According to all law, your rights over your property supersedes any police authority.
That is why they can't even come on your property without warrant.
Government is NOT a source of any authority in a democratic republic.
Individuals are ONLY.
And governments then can only borrow delegated authority from us, so can never be superior to us.
The only way government can be superior is that they borrow from everyone, so have much wider jurisdiction.

Whether or not Mohammad was the legal government, enforcing legal laws, or was another bandit, depends on which side you read.
But clearly Mohammad had to be reasonably law abiding, or else the 12 Jewish tribes near Media would not have allied with Mohammad to beat the Meccans.
Mohammad and Jews also shared Rome being an enemy.

{...
THE SUPPORT OF THE Jews in the Middle East was vital for the propagation and spread of the word of Muhammad. Although the material for the early Islamic history is complicated, an unmistakable and striking theme can be consistently teased from the literature of this period — whether Arabic, Armenian, Syriac, Greek or Hebrew — as well as from the archaeological evidence: Muhammad and his followers went to great lengths to assuage the fears of Jews and Christians as Muslim control expanded.

When Muhammad was cornered in Yathrib in southern Arabia in the 620s, soliciting the help of the Jews had been one of his key strategies. This was a town — and a region — that was steeped in Judaism and Jewish history. Barely a century earlier, one fanatical Jewish ruler of Himyar had overseen the systematic persecution of the Christian minority, which crystallised a broad pattern of alliances that still held firm: Persia had come in to support the Himyarites against the alliance of Rome and Ethiopia. Muhammad was eager to conciliate with the Jews of southern Arabia — starting with the elders of Yathrib.

Leading Jews in the town, later renamed Medina, pledged their support to Muhammad in return for guarantees of mutual defence. These were laid out in a formal document that stated that their own faith and their possessions would be respected now and in the future by Muslims. It also set out a mutual understanding between Judaism and Islam: followers of both religions pledged to defend each other in the event that either was attacked by any third party; no harm would come to Jews, and no help would be given to their enemies. Muslims and Jews would cooperate with one another, extending ‘sincere advice and counsel’. It helped then that Muhammad’s revelations seemed not only conciliatory but familiar: there was much in common with the Old Testament, for example, not least the veneration for the prophets and for Abraham in particular, and there was obvious common ground for those who repudiated Jesus’ status as the Messiah. It was not just that Islam was not a threat to Judaism; there were elements that seemed to go hand in glove with it.

Word soon began to spread among Jewish communities that Muhammad and his followers were allies. An extraordinary text written in North Africa in the late 630s records how news of the Arab advances was being welcomed by Jews in Palestine because it meant a loosening of the European grip on power in the region. There was heated speculation that what was going on might be a fulfillment of ancient prophecies: ‘they were saying that the prophet had appeared, coming with the Saracens, and that he was proclaiming the advent of the anointed one, the Christ that was to come’. This, some Jews concluded, was the coming of the Messiah. Not all were persuaded, however. As one learned rabbi put it, Muhammad was a false prophet, ‘for the prophets do not come armed with a sword’.

The fact that there are other texts that say that the Arabs were welcomed by Jews as liberators from Roman rule provides important corroborating evidence about positive local reactions to the rising profile of Islam. One text about this period written a century later reports how an angel came to Rabbi Shim’on b. Yohai after he became disturbed by the suffering inflicted in the wake of Heraclius’ recovery of Jerusalem and the forced baptism and persecution of the Jews that followed. ‘How do we know [the Muslims] are our salvation,’ he purportedly asked. ‘Do not be afraid,’ the angel reassured him, for God is ‘bringing about the kingdom of [the Arabs] only for the purpose of delivering you from that wicked [Rome]. In accordance with His will, He shall raise up over them a prophet. And he will conquer the land for them, and they shall come and restore it with grandeur.’ Muhammad was seen as the means of fulfilling Jewish messianic hopes. These were lands that belonged to the descendants of Abraham — which meant solidarity between Arab and Jew.
...}

Muslims and Jews: Allies at the Very Beginning

THE SUPPORT OF THE Jews in the Middle East was vital for the propagation and spread of the word of Muhammad. Although the material for the early Islamic history is complicated, an unmistakable and striking theme can be consistently teased from the literature of this period — whether Arabic...

nationalvanguard.org

 

[Rigby5]

Don't let the door hit you.......

Iran, I'm sure, would welcome you. They love Jews, right?

Historically Jews have almost always lived in Moslem countries, because they are treated much better by Muslims than Christians.
Islam is a form of Judaism.
They share the same Old Testament.
Christianity is completely different than Judaism, and is based on an entirely different New Testament.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

According to all law, your rights over your property supersedes any police authority.
That is why they can't even come on your property without warrant.
Government is NOT a source of any authority in a democratic republic.
Individuals are ONLY.
And governments then can only borrow delegated authority from us, so can never be superior to us.
The only way government can be superior is that they borrow from everyone, so have much wider jurisdiction.

Whether or not Mohammad was the legal government, enforcing legal laws, or was another bandit, depends on which side you read.
But clearly Mohammad had to be reasonably law abiding, or else the 12 Jewish tribes near Media would not have allied with Mohammad to beat the Meccans.
Mohammad and Jews also shared Rome being an enemy.

{...
THE SUPPORT OF THE Jews in the Middle East was vital for the propagation and spread of the word of Muhammad. Although the material for the early Islamic history is complicated, an unmistakable and striking theme can be consistently teased from the literature of this period — whether Arabic, Armenian, Syriac, Greek or Hebrew — as well as from the archaeological evidence: Muhammad and his followers went to great lengths to assuage the fears of Jews and Christians as Muslim control expanded.

When Muhammad was cornered in Yathrib in southern Arabia in the 620s, soliciting the help of the Jews had been one of his key strategies. This was a town — and a region — that was steeped in Judaism and Jewish history. Barely a century earlier, one fanatical Jewish ruler of Himyar had overseen the systematic persecution of the Christian minority, which crystallised a broad pattern of alliances that still held firm: Persia had come in to support the Himyarites against the alliance of Rome and Ethiopia. Muhammad was eager to conciliate with the Jews of southern Arabia — starting with the elders of Yathrib.

Leading Jews in the town, later renamed Medina, pledged their support to Muhammad in return for guarantees of mutual defence. These were laid out in a formal document that stated that their own faith and their possessions would be respected now and in the future by Muslims. It also set out a mutual understanding between Judaism and Islam: followers of both religions pledged to defend each other in the event that either was attacked by any third party; no harm would come to Jews, and no help would be given to their enemies. Muslims and Jews would cooperate with one another, extending ‘sincere advice and counsel’. It helped then that Muhammad’s revelations seemed not only conciliatory but familiar: there was much in common with the Old Testament, for example, not least the veneration for the prophets and for Abraham in particular, and there was obvious common ground for those who repudiated Jesus’ status as the Messiah. It was not just that Islam was not a threat to Judaism; there were elements that seemed to go hand in glove with it.

Word soon began to spread among Jewish communities that Muhammad and his followers were allies. An extraordinary text written in North Africa in the late 630s records how news of the Arab advances was being welcomed by Jews in Palestine because it meant a loosening of the European grip on power in the region. There was heated speculation that what was going on might be a fulfillment of ancient prophecies: ‘they were saying that the prophet had appeared, coming with the Saracens, and that he was proclaiming the advent of the anointed one, the Christ that was to come’. This, some Jews concluded, was the coming of the Messiah. Not all were persuaded, however. As one learned rabbi put it, Muhammad was a false prophet, ‘for the prophets do not come armed with a sword’.

The fact that there are other texts that say that the Arabs were welcomed by Jews as liberators from Roman rule provides important corroborating evidence about positive local reactions to the rising profile of Islam. One text about this period written a century later reports how an angel came to Rabbi Shim’on b. Yohai after he became disturbed by the suffering inflicted in the wake of Heraclius’ recovery of Jerusalem and the forced baptism and persecution of the Jews that followed. ‘How do we know [the Muslims] are our salvation,’ he purportedly asked. ‘Do not be afraid,’ the angel reassured him, for God is ‘bringing about the kingdom of [the Arabs] only for the purpose of delivering you from that wicked [Rome]. In accordance with His will, He shall raise up over them a prophet. And he will conquer the land for them, and they shall come and restore it with grandeur.’ Muhammad was seen as the means of fulfilling Jewish messianic hopes. These were lands that belonged to the descendants of Abraham — which meant solidarity between Arab and Jew.
...}

Muslims and Jews: Allies at the Very Beginning

THE SUPPORT OF THE Jews in the Middle East was vital for the propagation and spread of the word of Muhammad. Although the material for the early Islamic history is complicated, an unmistakable and striking theme can be consistently teased from the literature of this period — whether Arabic...

nationalvanguard.org

Read zero of your post sans your first sentence and you’re wrong about that when it comes to MA.

 

[surada]

According to all law, your rights over your property supersedes any police authority.
That is why they can't even come on your property without warrant.
Government is NOT a source of any authority in a democratic republic.
Individuals are ONLY.
And governments then can only borrow delegated authority from us, so can never be superior to us.
The only way government can be superior is that they borrow from everyone, so have much wider jurisdiction.

Whether or not Mohammad was the legal government, enforcing legal laws, or was another bandit, depends on which side you read.
But clearly Mohammad had to be reasonably law abiding, or else the 12 Jewish tribes near Media would not have allied with Mohammad to beat the Meccans.
Mohammad and Jews also shared Rome being an enemy.

{...
THE SUPPORT OF THE Jews in the Middle East was vital for the propagation and spread of the word of Muhammad. Although the material for the early Islamic history is complicated, an unmistakable and striking theme can be consistently teased from the literature of this period — whether Arabic, Armenian, Syriac, Greek or Hebrew — as well as from the archaeological evidence: Muhammad and his followers went to great lengths to assuage the fears of Jews and Christians as Muslim control expanded.

When Muhammad was cornered in Yathrib in southern Arabia in the 620s, soliciting the help of the Jews had been one of his key strategies. This was a town — and a region — that was steeped in Judaism and Jewish history. Barely a century earlier, one fanatical Jewish ruler of Himyar had overseen the systematic persecution of the Christian minority, which crystallised a broad pattern of alliances that still held firm: Persia had come in to support the Himyarites against the alliance of Rome and Ethiopia. Muhammad was eager to conciliate with the Jews of southern Arabia — starting with the elders of Yathrib.

Leading Jews in the town, later renamed Medina, pledged their support to Muhammad in return for guarantees of mutual defence. These were laid out in a formal document that stated that their own faith and their possessions would be respected now and in the future by Muslims. It also set out a mutual understanding between Judaism and Islam: followers of both religions pledged to defend each other in the event that either was attacked by any third party; no harm would come to Jews, and no help would be given to their enemies. Muslims and Jews would cooperate with one another, extending ‘sincere advice and counsel’. It helped then that Muhammad’s revelations seemed not only conciliatory but familiar: there was much in common with the Old Testament, for example, not least the veneration for the prophets and for Abraham in particular, and there was obvious common ground for those who repudiated Jesus’ status as the Messiah. It was not just that Islam was not a threat to Judaism; there were elements that seemed to go hand in glove with it.

Word soon began to spread among Jewish communities that Muhammad and his followers were allies. An extraordinary text written in North Africa in the late 630s records how news of the Arab advances was being welcomed by Jews in Palestine because it meant a loosening of the European grip on power in the region. There was heated speculation that what was going on might be a fulfillment of ancient prophecies: ‘they were saying that the prophet had appeared, coming with the Saracens, and that he was proclaiming the advent of the anointed one, the Christ that was to come’. This, some Jews concluded, was the coming of the Messiah. Not all were persuaded, however. As one learned rabbi put it, Muhammad was a false prophet, ‘for the prophets do not come armed with a sword’.

The fact that there are other texts that say that the Arabs were welcomed by Jews as liberators from Roman rule provides important corroborating evidence about positive local reactions to the rising profile of Islam. One text about this period written a century later reports how an angel came to Rabbi Shim’on b. Yohai after he became disturbed by the suffering inflicted in the wake of Heraclius’ recovery of Jerusalem and the forced baptism and persecution of the Jews that followed. ‘How do we know [the Muslims] are our salvation,’ he purportedly asked. ‘Do not be afraid,’ the angel reassured him, for God is ‘bringing about the kingdom of [the Arabs] only for the purpose of delivering you from that wicked [Rome]. In accordance with His will, He shall raise up over them a prophet. And he will conquer the land for them, and they shall come and restore it with grandeur.’ Muhammad was seen as the means of fulfilling Jewish messianic hopes. These were lands that belonged to the descendants of Abraham — which meant solidarity between Arab and Jew.
...}

Muslims and Jews: Allies at the Very Beginning

THE SUPPORT OF THE Jews in the Middle East was vital for the propagation and spread of the word of Muhammad. Although the material for the early Islamic history is complicated, an unmistakable and striking theme can be consistently teased from the literature of this period — whether Arabic...

nationalvanguard.org

Medina isn't in Southern Arabia.

 

[asaratis]

The 1967 war was a sneak attack that destroyed Egypt's air force, so that Israel could illegally invade the Golan Heights and Jerusalem.
Totally and completely illegal and barbaric.
Even the UN condemned it.

It was a preemptive attack to deny their enemies the capability of air superiority.

To hell with the UN.

 

[surada]

It was a preemptive attack to deny their enemies the capability of air superiority.

To hell with the UN.

Why don't you read Moshe Dayan? It was a land grab.. and he describes in detail how they tried to provoke Lebanon and Syria into war from 1953 on.

 

[asaratis]

You should probably read Moshe Dayan instead. The 6 day war was a land grab. Egyptian troops were deployed in Yemen from 1962 to 1970.

Land which Israel gave back and shortly thereafter received incoming missiles fired from Gaza.

 

[Batcat]

Iran has wanted nuclear power to expand their electrical grid since 1950. Remember Eisenhower's Atoms for Peace? We were training their technicians. Look at WHO is responsible for this escalation since 1979.

How are ICBMs going to help expend Iran’s electrical grid? Usually nations try to put nuclear warheads on top of ICBMs.

Safir | Missile Threat

The Safir is Iran’s first space launch vehicle (SLV) used to place satellites into low Earth orbit (LEO). As of October 2017, the Safir has placed four small satellites into LEO. Safir Development Iran likely began developing an SLV shortly after the founding of the Iranian Space Agency in...

missilethreat.csis.org

Safir Development​

Iran likely began developing an SLV shortly after the founding of the Iranian Space Agency in February 2004. The Safir is a two-stage variant of the Shahab-3, a medium range, single-stage, liquid fueled missile Iran tested almost exclusively from 1998 to 2006.1 One analyst has described the Safir as “essentially a Shahab-3 missile as the first stage with a small second stage on top.”2 How Iran developed a smaller second stage is unknown, although experts believe it uses an indigenously designed propulsion system.3

Although the Safir’s purpose is ostensibly to deliver satellites into orbit, technological progress in Iran’s space program could transfer to the country’s ballistic missile program. In February 2016, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee that Iran’s progress on SLVs “provides Tehran with the means and motivation to develop longer-range missiles, including ICBMs.”

 

[rylah]

Historically Jews have almost always lived in Moslem countries, because they are treated much better by Muslims than Christians.

Islam is a form of Judaism.

They share the same Old Testament.
Christianity is completely different than Judaism, and is based on an entirely different New Testament.

If Dhimmitude and Inquisition are your standards of tolerance...
And yet, unlike Christianity, Islam doesn't even recognize the first book.

Both compensate with what the other rejects, seeking to replace all the rest,
and both have a fundamental Aedipus complex with Judaism and Israel.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I don't think much of the Mullahs, but in Shia Islam they are considered infallible.

Are you Shia? Do you think they are infallible?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Jews lived in Persia for more than 2000 years and until quite recently there were 250,000 Jews in Iran.

And now Iran is run by an evil regime.
He should still move there, right?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Historically Jews have almost always lived in Moslem countries, because they are treated much better by Muslims than Christians.
Islam is a form of Judaism.
They share the same Old Testament.
Christianity is completely different than Judaism, and is based on an entirely different New Testament.

So you'll be moving to Iran?

 

[surada]

Are you Shia? Do you think they are infallible?

I'm Dutch and Irish.. My family has been in America since the early 1600s. I'm Episcopalian.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I'm Dutch and Irish.. My family has been in America since the early 1600s. I'm Episcopalian.

Do you have any constructive criticism for the Iranian mullahs?

Anything they could improve upon?

 

[surada]

Do you have any constructive criticism for the Iranian mullahs?

Anything they could improve upon?

Probably not since Israel has bombed them several times. I can't undo that or their assassinations of Iranian scientists.

 

[rylah]

Probably not since Israel has bombed them several times. I can't undo that or their assassinations of Iranian scientists.

Then I guess,
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[Toddsterpatriot]

Probably not since Israel has bombed them several times. I can't undo that or their assassinations of Iranian scientists.

The mullahs shouldn't change anything about how they treat their own people, because Israel?

Are you fucking kidding me?

 

[surada]

The mullahs shouldn't change anything about how they treat their own people, because Israel?

Are you fucking kidding me?

No. I'm saying they don't listen anymore than the Israelis listen.