Israel Demolishes Iran Nuclear Manufacturing Plant

[Rigby5]

The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.

 

[BS Filter]

Iran supports and funds terrorism around the world. They are a terrorist regime.

If you wish to quote me in the future, you'll have to delete the string of other quotes.

I don't have to do shit. Go fuck yourself.

 

[BS Filter]

The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.

Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

 

[Rigby5]

If Iran has nuclear arms ambitions, they won't be stopped.
It's most likely that they don't and will rely on Russia and China for security against US/Zionist aggression.

One issue that could be finally and completely settled with this terrorist act of aggression is that there won't be any new nuclear agreement with Iran. All parties will have come to the conclusion that Iran is not obliged now.

This is assuming that it was actually an attack by the criminal Zionist regime.

Israel should be very cautious---Biden's administration is also very unlikely to aid them if Iran and their allies declare war on Israel at this point.

Except for Syria, Palestinians and Hezbollah, Iran has no allies. Israel can handle it.

Israel has no allies, and does not even have a bomber.
If not for Zionists peddling influence in the US, Israel would disappear, as it should.
And before anyone starts on the propaganda wagon, I am Jewish.
The reality is Judaism denies the existence of Israel, since we are supposed to be waiting for the coming of the Messiah.

 

[Rigby5]

The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.

Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

 

[Donald H]

One does not have to go to Israel to read that the Hebrew tribes are not native to the Land of Canaan, that they invaded around 1000 BC, committed horrific atrocities like massacring Canaanite women and children in Jericho, and every one hated them. They were continually hated and defeated by the Babylonians, Assyrians, Romans, etc.
They are arrogant, overly prideful, insist on calling themselves the Chosen People, excuse theft and genocide by claiming "Promised Land" as if God is for them only,

If one examines WWI, you see German Zionists being traitors in exchange for the Balfour Declaration. Chaim Weizmann stole the formula for synthetic acetone for cordite, and other Zionists stole the Zimmerman Letter from Berlin, in order to get the US into the war.

Israel now is only about a third Jews, and most of the natives are not allowed vote or be citizens.
The rightful land owners are constantly being killed, arrested, deported, or otherwise having their homes illegally taken.
And the idea of a national religion is not accepted anywhere else except the Vatican. Deliberately imposing Zionism on a country that is historically Muslim is an atrocity all by itself. There is no country with less justification than Israel for existing.

Good information. There is much to be discovered on WW2 and prior history concerning the Jews of Europe and the political climate of America is such that it is enabling some factual discussion.
Both political persuasions in the US fight are amenable to some enlightenment. Go slow and draw them out, as opposed to offering too much for them to digest, too soon.

 

[Meathead]

And before anyone starts on the propaganda wagon, I am Jewish.
The reality is Judaism denies the existence of Israel, since we are supposed to be waiting for the coming of the Messiah.

No one cares what or who you are and the rationale for the existence of Israel is nonsense.

 

[Donald H]

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

You can say the same for most of the ME's oil rich countries. America went in with an attitude of force and brutality and thus lost favour, likely forever. China and Russia are now invited into those countries as peaceful trading partners and as nuclear armed protectors.

 

[BS Filter]

The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.

Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

 

[Meathead]

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

You can say the same for most of the ME's oil rich countries. America went in with an attitude of force and brutality and thus lost favour, likely forever. China and Russia are now invited into those countries as peaceful trading partners and as nuclear armed protectors.

Which oil-rich ME countries want a nuclear-armed Iran? Your interpretation of ME geopolitics is interesting, to say the least.

 

[Rigby5]

The reason Iran started their nuclear program to begin with was yo defend against Israel, who has a long history of threatening nuclear attacks sgsinst Iran

Iran is a modern nation which would naturally seek the use of nuclear technology for many peaceful purposes. It's far from being concluded that Iran seeks nuclear weapons.

The Zionist apartheid regime is prohibited from the use of nuclear weapons for obvious reasons and that can then be interpreted to say that Iran has no need for nuclear weapons.

All small countries are becoming client states of the large and powerful nuclear armed nations. The Zionist regime could just as likely not possess them.

While nuclear energy appeals to any oil country because oil only has 50 to 100 years left, after the US invaded Iraq based on WMD lies, now all countries legitimately need nuclear weapons as a defense deterrent again aggression.
Israel can and would use nuclear weapons in aggression as well, so a defense against Israel is also needed, but Israel is the one country that can't be attacked by nuclear weapons because it holds 12 million Muslim hostages against nuclear attack.
The idea anyone would ever attack Israel with nuclear weapons is ludicrous.
That would be like burning down a forest to get rid of some weeds.

 

[BS Filter]

Insanity to allow Iran to have anything but death to their current regime.

 

[Rigby5]

The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.

Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

You are unaware that Iran was once a popular democracy in 1953?
The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.
The US destroyed it and replaced it with a military dictatorship for decades.

{...

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953.[5] It was orchestrated by the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project[6] or "Operation Ajax") and the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot").[7][8][9][10] The clergy also played a considerable role.[11]

Mosaddegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian oil reserves.[12] Upon the AIOC's refusal to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament (Majlis) voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.[13][14][15] After this vote, Britain instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[16] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the British-built Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[17] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[18]:3 Judging Mosaddegh to be unreliable and fearing a Communist takeover in Iran, UK prime minister Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government, though the preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) involvement would set.[18]:3 British intelligence officials' conclusions and the UK government's solicitations were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup, despite the fact that the U.S. government in 1952 had been considering unilateral action (without UK support) to assist the Mosaddegh government.[19][20][21]

Following the coup in 1953, a government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran (Persian for an Iranian king),[22] to rule more firmly as monarch. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power.[13][14][15][23] According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August.[5] Other men paid by the CIA were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.[24] Between 200[3] and 300[4] people were killed because of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah's military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.[25]:280[26][27] Other Mosaddegh supporters were imprisoned, and several received the death penalty.[15] After the coup, the Shah continued his rule as monarch for the next 26 years[14][15] until he was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[14][15][18]

In August 2013, sixty years afterward, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. role in the coup by releasing a bulk of previously classified government documents that show it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[28][29] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government".[30]
...}

 

[BS Filter]

The reason Iran started their nuclear program to begin with was yo defend against Israel, who has a long history of threatening nuclear attacks sgsinst Iran

Iran is a modern nation which would naturally seek the use of nuclear technology for many peaceful purposes. It's far from being concluded that Iran seeks nuclear weapons.

The Zionist apartheid regime is prohibited from the use of nuclear weapons for obvious reasons and that can then be interpreted to say that Iran has no need for nuclear weapons.

All small countries are becoming client states of the large and powerful nuclear armed nations. The Zionist regime could just as likely not possess them.

While nuclear energy appeals to any oil country because oil only has 50 to 100 years left, after the US invaded Iraq based on WMD lies, now all countries legitimately need nuclear weapons as a defense deterrent again aggression.
Israel can and would use nuclear weapons in aggression as well, so a defense against Israel is also needed, but Israel is the one country that can't be attacked by nuclear weapons because it holds 12 million Muslim hostages against nuclear attack.
The idea anyone would ever attack Israel with nuclear weapons is ludicrous.
That would be like burning down a forest to get rid of some weeds.

Do you honestly believe that Iran gives a damn about the muslims in Israel? That's hilarious. They're nothing but pawns for Iran.

 

[BS Filter]

The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.

Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

You are unaware that Iran was once a popular democracy in 1953?
The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.
The US destroyed it and replaced it with a military dictatorship for decades.

{...

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953.[5] It was orchestrated by the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project[6] or "Operation Ajax") and the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot").[7][8][9][10] The clergy also played a considerable role.[11]

Mosaddegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian oil reserves.[12] Upon the AIOC's refusal to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament (Majlis) voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.[13][14][15] After this vote, Britain instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[16] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the British-built Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[17] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[18]:3 Judging Mosaddegh to be unreliable and fearing a Communist takeover in Iran, UK prime minister Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government, though the preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) involvement would set.[18]:3 British intelligence officials' conclusions and the UK government's solicitations were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup, despite the fact that the U.S. government in 1952 had been considering unilateral action (without UK support) to assist the Mosaddegh government.[19][20][21]

Following the coup in 1953, a government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran (Persian for an Iranian king),[22] to rule more firmly as monarch. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power.[13][14][15][23] According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August.[5] Other men paid by the CIA were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.[24] Between 200[3] and 300[4] people were killed because of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah's military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.[25]:280[26][27] Other Mosaddegh supporters were imprisoned, and several received the death penalty.[15] After the coup, the Shah continued his rule as monarch for the next 26 years[14][15] until he was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[14][15][18]

In August 2013, sixty years afterward, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. role in the coup by releasing a bulk of previously classified government documents that show it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[28][29] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government".[30]
...}

It was our best interests. Jimmy Carter is responsible for the terrorism Iran exports today.

 

[Donald H]

Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

Saddam's regime was peaceful and allowed all religious ideologies to practice openly. Any brutaliby by Saddam was proportional to the efforts by other warring factions to bring down Iraq's government and the prosperity Iraq has achieved.

The US sponsored terrorist activity against Iraq by Kurds and other factions because Saddam's control of Iraq'a oil resources, for the good of his people, was intolerable to America.

The same pattern was founded by the British in the ME a century earlier and is being repeated by the US throughout the world.

Only of late have some small nations gained immunity from US aggression thrould building bonds with China and Russia.

 

[Rigby5]

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

You can say the same for most of the ME's oil rich countries. America went in with an attitude of force and brutality and thus lost favour, likely forever. China and Russia are now invited into those countries as peaceful trading partners and as nuclear armed protectors.

Which oil-rich ME countries want a nuclear-armed Iran? Your interpretation of ME geopolitics is interesting, to say the least.

What you are really referring to is that Iran is Shiite and Saudi Arabia is Sunni, and there is a historic conflict there.
But Iran could never use nuclear weapons for anything but defensive deterrent.
They are not going around invading other countries anyway.
So there is no basis for a concern over Iranian nuclear weapons.
Likely ALL countries should have nuclear defense deterrents after the US lied and illegally invaded Iraq.

 

[Rigby5]

...
It was our best interests. Jimmy Carter is responsible for the terrorism Iran exports today.

Nonsense.
Jimmy Carter actually planned an attack on Iran, with Operation Eagle Talon, but it failed due to the ineptitude of the military. Sand ruing helicopter engines and there was a nigh refueling collision.
The fact it never made it to Iran does not mean Carter did not try to attack Iran.

 

[Donald H]

What you are really referring to is that Iran is Shiite and Saudi Arabia is Sunni, and there is a historic conflict there.
But Iran could never use nuclear weapons for anything but defensive deterrent.
They are not going around invading other countries anyway.
So there is no basis for a concern over Iranian nuclear weapons.
Likely ALL countries should have nuclear defense deterrents after the US lied and illegally invaded Iraq.

'your' comments are important to me. If or when you are addressing me, please delete the long strings of comments and quotes of others, so as to avoid confusion.
This is a flaw of the board's system which few are dealing with. Thanks.

 

[Meathead]

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.

You can say the same for most of the ME's oil rich countries. America went in with an attitude of force and brutality and thus lost favour, likely forever. China and Russia are now invited into those countries as peaceful trading partners and as nuclear armed protectors.

Which oil-rich ME countries want a nuclear-armed Iran? Your interpretation of ME geopolitics is interesting, to say the least.

What you are really referring to is that Iran is Shiite and Saudi Arabia is Sunni, and there is a historic conflict there.
But Iran could never use nuclear weapons for anything but defensive deterrent.
They are not going around invading other countries anyway.
So there is no basis for a concern over Iranian nuclear weapons.
Likely ALL countries should have nuclear defense deterrents after the US lied and illegally invaded Iraq.

Sorry, when your base goes around chanting "Death to America", I can't help but be a little reticent in allowing them to develop nuclear weapons. Maybe it's just me.