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Israel Demolishes Iran Nuclear Manufacturing Plant

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Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They use proxies. They paid others to destroy our Marine Barracks in Lebanon and have killed hundreds of U.S. servicemen in Iraq. THAT is why Soilemani was turned into something vaguely resembling cat food a couple of years back. Believe as you wish but don't piss down our backs and try to tell us it's raining, K?
 

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I would just suggest that the Zionist regime is coming close to losing it's usefulness to America and that brings a promise of hope.
Once America turns its back on Israel, your "hope" is going to be sorely needed and nowhere to be found. But keep on dreaming about da JOOOS getting theirs. That hate won't feed you or comfort you when THIS nation falls from within to its enemies.
 

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The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.
Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.
Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

You are unaware that Iran was once a popular democracy in 1953?
The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.
The US destroyed it and replaced it with a military dictatorship for decades.

{...

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953.[5] It was orchestrated by the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project[6] or "Operation Ajax") and the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot").[7][8][9][10] The clergy also played a considerable role.[11]

Mosaddegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian oil reserves.[12] Upon the AIOC's refusal to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament (Majlis) voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.[13][14][15] After this vote, Britain instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[16] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the British-built Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[17] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[18]:3 Judging Mosaddegh to be unreliable and fearing a Communist takeover in Iran, UK prime minister Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government, though the preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) involvement would set.[18]:3 British intelligence officials' conclusions and the UK government's solicitations were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup, despite the fact that the U.S. government in 1952 had been considering unilateral action (without UK support) to assist the Mosaddegh government.[19][20][21]

Following the coup in 1953, a government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran (Persian for an Iranian king),[22] to rule more firmly as monarch. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power.[13][14][15][23] According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August.[5] Other men paid by the CIA were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.[24] Between 200[3] and 300[4] people were killed because of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah's military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.[25]:280[26][27] Other Mosaddegh supporters were imprisoned, and several received the death penalty.[15] After the coup, the Shah continued his rule as monarch for the next 26 years[14][15] until he was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[14][15][18]

In August 2013, sixty years afterward, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. role in the coup by releasing a bulk of previously classified government documents that show it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[28][29] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government".[30]
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The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.

Was he very popular? Link?
 

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Remember English is not their language, so you have to understand what they mean is actually more like an end to US meddling.
It is just hard to get nuance into a single chant.
Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They never even participated in any actions against Israel, which I think they should have.
Israel has committed a large number of war crimes and clearly has to stopped.
Like when they blew up Osirac in Iraq in 1979.
Their assassination of Gerald Bull also was intolerable.
Israel is way beyond acceptable.

America's current political climate has produced some confusion over whether it's fashionable or not to support the Zionist regime.

It's a foot in the door at least.
It may have even created some confusion within the Democratic party and Biden. There are just so many issues complicating the picture now to be considered?

I would just suggest that the Zionist regime is coming close to losing it's usefulness to America and that brings a promise of hope.

Thank you for helping to bring some little bit of meaningful discussion to this clusterfuk!
I read the Bible so I know Israel isn't going anywhere. Your hope is a dead end.
 

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Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They use proxies. They paid others to destroy our Marine Barracks in Lebanon and have killed hundreds of U.S. servicemen in Iraq. THAT is why Soilemani was turned into something vaguely resembling cat food a couple of years back. Believe as you wish but don't piss down our backs and try to tell us it's raining, K?

The attack on the US Marine Barracks was retaliation for the Sabra and Shatilla Massacres. Ariel Sharon betrayed Reagan.
 

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The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.
Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.
Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

You are unaware that Iran was once a popular democracy in 1953?
The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.
The US destroyed it and replaced it with a military dictatorship for decades.

{...

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953.[5] It was orchestrated by the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project[6] or "Operation Ajax") and the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot").[7][8][9][10] The clergy also played a considerable role.[11]

Mosaddegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian oil reserves.[12] Upon the AIOC's refusal to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament (Majlis) voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.[13][14][15] After this vote, Britain instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[16] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the British-built Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[17] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[18]:3 Judging Mosaddegh to be unreliable and fearing a Communist takeover in Iran, UK prime minister Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government, though the preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) involvement would set.[18]:3 British intelligence officials' conclusions and the UK government's solicitations were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup, despite the fact that the U.S. government in 1952 had been considering unilateral action (without UK support) to assist the Mosaddegh government.[19][20][21]

Following the coup in 1953, a government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran (Persian for an Iranian king),[22] to rule more firmly as monarch. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power.[13][14][15][23] According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August.[5] Other men paid by the CIA were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.[24] Between 200[3] and 300[4] people were killed because of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah's military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.[25]:280[26][27] Other Mosaddegh supporters were imprisoned, and several received the death penalty.[15] After the coup, the Shah continued his rule as monarch for the next 26 years[14][15] until he was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[14][15][18]

In August 2013, sixty years afterward, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. role in the coup by releasing a bulk of previously classified government documents that show it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[28][29] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government".[30]
...}

The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.

Was he very popular? Link?

The Brits were paying 6 cents on the dollar in oil revenue to the Shah.. Every other country was getting 50 cents on the dollar. After the US/UK tried to assassinate Mossadeeg, destroyed their budding democracy and installed the SAVAK they upped the revenue share to !3 cents.
 

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Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They use proxies. They paid others to destroy our Marine Barracks in Lebanon and have killed hundreds of U.S. servicemen in Iraq. THAT is why Soilemani was turned into something vaguely resembling cat food a couple of years back. Believe as you wish but don't piss down our backs and try to tell us it's raining, K?

The attack on the US Marine Barracks was retaliation for the Sabra and Shatilla Massacres. Ariel Sharon betrayed Reagan.
And Sabra and Shatila were in retaliation for a previous event.
 

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Funny or not its the truth.
Can we frame it in terms of 'Trump opposed the Iraq wars'? I think that would have the potential of causing enough confusion in their vacant heads to swing their opinions to being on the side of right. It's less necessary that they accept the wrong/right reasons!
 

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Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They use proxies. They paid others to destroy our Marine Barracks in Lebanon and have killed hundreds of U.S. servicemen in Iraq. THAT is why Soilemani was turned into something vaguely resembling cat food a couple of years back. Believe as you wish but don't piss down our backs and try to tell us it's raining, K?

The attack on the US Marine Barracks was retaliation for the Sabra and Shatilla Massacres. Ariel Sharon betrayed Reagan.
And Sabra and Shatila were in retaliation for a previous event.

Nope.. Reagan asked Arafat to leave Lebanon, to guarantee the safety of the women. children and elderly.. and he did. Sharon surrounded the villages to prevent them from running away... It was a lot like the frenzied slaughter of Deir Yassin. Sharon was a butcher.
 

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The Brits were paying 6 cents on the dollar in oil revenue to the Shah.. Every other country was getting 50 cents on the dollar. After the US/UK tried to assassinate Mossadeeg, destroyed their budding democracy and installed the SAVAK they upped the revenue share to !3 cents.

Was he very popular? Link?
 

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The reason Iran started their nuclear program to begin with was yo defend against Israel, who has a long history of threatening nuclear attacks sgsinst Iran
BULLSHIT.

Actually, he's right. Look at the record.. Within my lifetime there were 250,000 Jews in Iran who had been there more than 2,000 years. Israel bought all their oil from Iran until 1979.

Under Atoms for Peace Iran was building 8 nuclear power plants with the Germans and the US was training their technicians.

The US and Britain did their share of damage to Iran by overthrowing the democratically elected Mossadeeg and training up the SAVAK modeled after the Gestapo.... and then we and the Brits completely screwed up in ignoring the student protests of the late 1970s. We opened the door to the Ayatollahs and the Revolutionary Guard.

You never said, will you cry when the mullahs get overthrown?
 

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The Brits were paying 6 cents on the dollar in oil revenue to the Shah.. Every other country was getting 50 cents on the dollar. After the US/UK tried to assassinate Mossadeeg, destroyed their budding democracy and installed the SAVAK they upped the revenue share to !3 cents.

Be mindful of not leaving them in a cloud of smoke and confusion.
 

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Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They use proxies. They paid others to destroy our Marine Barracks in Lebanon and have killed hundreds of U.S. servicemen in Iraq. THAT is why Soilemani was turned into something vaguely resembling cat food a couple of years back. Believe as you wish but don't piss down our backs and try to tell us it's raining, K?

The attack on the US Marine Barracks was retaliation for the Sabra and Shatilla Massacres. Ariel Sharon betrayed Reagan.
And Sabra and Shatila were in retaliation for a previous event.

Nope.. Reagan asked Arafat to leave Lebanon, to guarantee the safety of the women. children and elderly.. and he did. Sharon surrounded the villages to prevent them from running away... It was a lot like the frenzied slaughter of Deir Yassin. Sharon was a butcher.
Preservation. The muslims should seek peace.
 

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The Muslim terrorists who run Iran have contributed absolutely nothing to the betterment of mankind, only hateful terrorism. Israel has contributed greatly. Yet, some of you support the hateful terrorist regime in Iran. I wouldn't want to be in your shoes on judgment day

Isn't it unfortunate when people like the US murder for centuries and deserve hateful terrorism in retribution?
It is all our fault.
We deliberately crushed the Iranian democracy in 1953. Operation Ajax. We have still not even apologized.
Whatever. The USA doesn't apologize for doing whatever it takes to preserve our interests.

Destroying the democracy in Iraq was not really in our interests.
It mostly protected British Petroleum profits and put Iran more in the Russian camp than it did anything good for the US.
It was stupid, brutal, and totally unnecessary.
Nor will the Iranian people likely ever forgive us for it.
It showed the world the US was hypocrites, supporting dictatorship over democracy.
Destroyed the democracy in Iraq????

You are unaware that Iran was once a popular democracy in 1953?
The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.
The US destroyed it and replaced it with a military dictatorship for decades.

{...

The 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup d'état (Persian: کودتای ۲۸ مرداد‎), was the overthrow of the democratically elected Prime Minister Mohammad Mosaddegh in favour of strengthening the monarchical rule of the Shah, Mohammad Reza Pahlavi on 19 August 1953.[5] It was orchestrated by the United States (under the name TPAJAX Project[6] or "Operation Ajax") and the United Kingdom (under the name "Operation Boot").[7][8][9][10] The clergy also played a considerable role.[11]

Mosaddegh had sought to audit the documents of the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company (AIOC), a British corporation (now part of BP) and to limit the company's control over Iranian oil reserves.[12] Upon the AIOC's refusal to co-operate with the Iranian government, the parliament (Majlis) voted to nationalize Iran's oil industry and to expel foreign corporate representatives from the country.[13][14][15] After this vote, Britain instigated a worldwide boycott of Iranian oil to pressure Iran economically.[16] Initially, Britain mobilized its military to seize control of the British-built Abadan oil refinery, then the world's largest, but Prime Minister Clement Attlee opted instead to tighten the economic boycott[17] while using Iranian agents to undermine Mosaddegh's government.[18]:3 Judging Mosaddegh to be unreliable and fearing a Communist takeover in Iran, UK prime minister Winston Churchill and the Eisenhower administration decided to overthrow Iran's government, though the preceding Truman administration had opposed a coup, fearing the precedent that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) involvement would set.[18]:3 British intelligence officials' conclusions and the UK government's solicitations were instrumental in initiating and planning the coup, despite the fact that the U.S. government in 1952 had been considering unilateral action (without UK support) to assist the Mosaddegh government.[19][20][21]

Following the coup in 1953, a government under General Fazlollah Zahedi was formed which allowed Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, the last Shah of Iran (Persian for an Iranian king),[22] to rule more firmly as monarch. He relied heavily on United States support to hold on to power.[13][14][15][23] According to the CIA's declassified documents and records, some of the most feared mobsters in Tehran were hired by the CIA to stage pro-Shah riots on 19 August.[5] Other men paid by the CIA were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city.[24] Between 200[3] and 300[4] people were killed because of the conflict. Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah's military court. On 21 December 1953, he was sentenced to three years in jail, then placed under house arrest for the remainder of his life.[25]:280[26][27] Other Mosaddegh supporters were imprisoned, and several received the death penalty.[15] After the coup, the Shah continued his rule as monarch for the next 26 years[14][15] until he was overthrown in the Iranian Revolution in 1979.[14][15][18]

In August 2013, sixty years afterward, the U.S. government formally acknowledged the U.S. role in the coup by releasing a bulk of previously classified government documents that show it was in charge of both the planning and the execution of the coup, including the bribing of Iranian politicians, security and army high-ranking officials, as well as pro-coup propaganda.[28][29] The CIA is quoted acknowledging the coup was carried out "under CIA direction" and "as an act of U.S. foreign policy, conceived and approved at the highest levels of government".[30]
...}

The Prime Minister was Mosaddegh.

Was he very popular? Link?

The Brits were paying 6 cents on the dollar in oil revenue to the Shah.. Every other country was getting 50 cents on the dollar. After the US/UK tried to assassinate Mossadeeg, destroyed their budding democracy and installed the SAVAK they upped the revenue share to !3 cents.
Yes, and Brutus and Cassius assassinated Julius Caesar to save the Republic. Yet the Romans got over it.
 

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Saddam doing anything "for the good of his people" is funny and not true.

It's not my aim to have toddsters, roadsters, or toasters agree, it's enough that the bug has been planted in their heads.

Don't devote more than the next hour dwelling on the confusion the question has caused. Your brain is alrady too full.
 

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Iran as never threatened anyone actually, much less the US.
They use proxies. They paid others to destroy our Marine Barracks in Lebanon and have killed hundreds of U.S. servicemen in Iraq. THAT is why Soilemani was turned into something vaguely resembling cat food a couple of years back. Believe as you wish but don't piss down our backs and try to tell us it's raining, K?

The attack on the US Marine Barracks was retaliation for the Sabra and Shatilla Massacres. Ariel Sharon betrayed Reagan.
And Sabra and Shatila were in retaliation for a previous event.

Nope.. Reagan asked Arafat to leave Lebanon, to guarantee the safety of the women. children and elderly.. and he did. Sharon surrounded the villages to prevent them from running away... It was a lot like the frenzied slaughter of Deir Yassin. Sharon was a butcher.
Preservation. The muslims should seek peace.


They have. Sharon mocked the Saudi Peace Initiative of 2002 which guaranteed Israel's security.. It was a sweet deal and a huge capitulation by the Arabs.
 

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