Is there ANY reason to vote for Biden (other than TDS)?

[DBA]

I'm still closer to Harris on the issues.

You are on the extreme left. We all know that.

What is my position on corporate taxation?

Either your answer is "Mac believes in the elimination of for-profit corporations", or you're just ignorant.

So, what is my position on corporate taxation? Man up and answer the question.

I don't know your position on corporate taxation. Harris and Biden are for more. If you are for less, then great, there is one thing with which you disagree. Like most self-proclaimed independents, you are likely governed by your emotions and are socially liberal, which trumps everything else in your mind.

So your ignorance didn't stop you from attacking.

Arrogant ignorance, one of the hallmarks of Trumpism.

Listen. I hope you are a professor. I LOVE types like you. I make more money than you. I am more successful than you. You like being in school. You think like a child and like children, you believe you know more than everyone else.

Biden wants to raise taxes by 4 trillion dollars in a contracting economy, due to the virus. Only idiots would vote for such nonsense. It is as simple as that on the economic side.

No, I'm a 20+ year CFP/Investment Advisor. You can believe whatever you want about comparisons.

And "simple"? Yes, your understanding of economics are simple, since you're a Trumpster.

See? We agree on something.

I have a CFP that I am getting ready to let go. I gave him money and invested the same amount at the same time on my own for the sake of comparison. He talked a big game but gets bogged down in the weeds and over thinks everything. The money I invested has an 11% return YTD AND invested pre-COVID.

Us Trumpster's are smart enough to make more money than you lefties(on average). Again, the proof is in the pudding.

Please do tell how raising taxes in a contracting economy will put your client's portfolios in a better position.

 

[Mac1958]

I'm still closer to Harris on the issues.

You are on the extreme left. We all know that.

What is my position on corporate taxation?

Either your answer is "Mac believes in the elimination of for-profit corporations", or you're just ignorant.

So, what is my position on corporate taxation? Man up and answer the question.

I don't know your position on corporate taxation. Harris and Biden are for more. If you are for less, then great, there is one thing with which you disagree. Like most self-proclaimed independents, you are likely governed by your emotions and are socially liberal, which trumps everything else in your mind.

So your ignorance didn't stop you from attacking.

Arrogant ignorance, one of the hallmarks of Trumpism.

Listen. I hope you are a professor. I LOVE types like you. I make more money than you. I am more successful than you. You like being in school. You think like a child and like children, you believe you know more than everyone else.

Biden wants to raise taxes by 4 trillion dollars in a contracting economy, due to the virus. Only idiots would vote for such nonsense. It is as simple as that on the economic side.

No, I'm a 20+ year CFP/Investment Advisor. You can believe whatever you want about comparisons.

And "simple"? Yes, your understanding of economics are simple, since you're a Trumpster.

See? We agree on something.

I have a CFP that I am getting ready to let go. I gave him money and invested the same amount at the same time on my own for the sake of comparison. He talked a big game but gets bogged down in the weeds and over thinks everything. The money I invested has an 11% return YTD AND invested pre-COVID.

Us Trumpster's are smart enough to make more money than you lefties(on average). Again, the proof is in the pudding.

Please do tell how raising taxes in a contracting economy will put your client's portfolios in a better position.

Look at how hard you're trying. I criticize your hero and you go personal.

Tax increases will depend entirely on how they are structured. The short term effect of something like capital gains increases will hurt the stock market far more than the economy. The massive deficit increases Trump has provided have to be addressed, immediately, and anyone paying attention knows that.

Since Trump's Fed has already laid out $5+ trillion to save his ass, we're running out of ammo. It's time to get serious, and Trump is incapable of that.

Oh, and a smart observer knows not to make simplistic assumptions. There are those who are quite comfy with Biden's ideas: Joe Biden's plan would create 7 million more jobs than Trump, according to one economic forecast

I know I just wasted my time. Believe whatever you want. You're just a Trumpster, it's what I expect.

 

[my2¢]

If budget deficits is your deciding issue in politics you would never vote for either a Democrat or Republican.

Both are parties of big spending government .

I give credit to Republican's half-ass concern over the debt. Unfortunately even that little concern flies out the window whenever they hold the presidency. (I'll exempt George HW Bush from that criticism.)

 

[DBA]

I'm still closer to Harris on the issues.

You are on the extreme left. We all know that.

What is my position on corporate taxation?

Either your answer is "Mac believes in the elimination of for-profit corporations", or you're just ignorant.

So, what is my position on corporate taxation? Man up and answer the question.

I don't know your position on corporate taxation. Harris and Biden are for more. If you are for less, then great, there is one thing with which you disagree. Like most self-proclaimed independents, you are likely governed by your emotions and are socially liberal, which trumps everything else in your mind.

So your ignorance didn't stop you from attacking.

Arrogant ignorance, one of the hallmarks of Trumpism.

Listen. I hope you are a professor. I LOVE types like you. I make more money than you. I am more successful than you. You like being in school. You think like a child and like children, you believe you know more than everyone else.

Biden wants to raise taxes by 4 trillion dollars in a contracting economy, due to the virus. Only idiots would vote for such nonsense. It is as simple as that on the economic side.

No, I'm a 20+ year CFP/Investment Advisor. You can believe whatever you want about comparisons.

And "simple"? Yes, your understanding of economics are simple, since you're a Trumpster.

See? We agree on something.

I have a CFP that I am getting ready to let go. I gave him money and invested the same amount at the same time on my own for the sake of comparison. He talked a big game but gets bogged down in the weeds and over thinks everything. The money I invested has an 11% return YTD AND invested pre-COVID.

Us Trumpster's are smart enough to make more money than you lefties(on average). Again, the proof is in the pudding.

Please do tell how raising taxes in a contracting economy will put your client's portfolios in a better position.

Look at how hard you're trying. I criticize your hero and you go personal.

Tax increases will depend entirely on how they are structured. The short term effect of something like capital gains increases will hurt the stock market far more than the economy. The massive deficit increases Trump has provided have to be addressed, immediately, and anyone paying attention knows that.

Since Trump's Fed has already laid out $5+ trillion to save his ass, we're running out of ammo. It's time to get serious, and Trump is incapable of that.

Oh, and a smart observer knows not to make simplistic assumptions. There are those who are quite comfy with Biden's ideas: Joe Biden's plan would create 7 million more jobs than Trump, according to one economic forecast

I know I just wasted my time. Believe whatever you want. You're just a Trumpster, it's what I expect.

Yes, you wanted your time, but not because I am a "Trumpster" but because you just posted a load of rubbish. Corporate tax increases and capital gains increases will hurt the economy. It discourages investment by both individuals and companies. I know I won't be buying any more property with a higher capital gains tax. Why on earth would I risk heavier losses than potential gains? Smart people won't. Bonds won't protect investments in this environment, so people will just sit on their money until the Democrats are out of power and hope inflation doesn't eat up too much of it.

Democrats say we should not cut taxes when the economy is expanding. By this logic, we certainly shouldn't raise taxes when the economy is contracting. Republicans say we should always allow people to keep more of what they earn. They will spend it, stimulating the economy. Filtering money through government bureaucracy yields a 20% return at best and is an inefficient, inorganic growth model.

As far as the deficit, it is joined at the hip with the debt. The national debt doubled during Obama's presidency. The payments on the debt become much higher, therefore the deficit becomes larger. Obama increased the debt by $8.588 trillion. Trump is on pace to increase the debt by 8.3 trillion if he remains in office for another 4 years. That is lower than Obama's(50% vs 33%) and he inherited the higher debt payments from Obama.

All this being said, I don't disagree that both sides need to cut spending.

 

[Flash]

If budget deficits is your deciding issue in politics you would never vote for either a Democrat or Republican.

Both are parties of big spending government .

I give credit to Republican's half-ass concern over the debt. Unfortunately even that little concern flies out the window whenever they hold the presidency. (I'll exempt George HW Bush from that criticism.)

Democrats promise bad government and always deliver on bad government.

Republicans promise good government but at the end of the day delivers about the same bad government that we get from the Democrats.

The best thing is for a government to keep taxes low, the size of government small and never spend more than it has coming in.

That never happens so when our government spends more than it has coming in there are two ways to deal with it.

The Republican way is to try to grow the economy so as to bring in more revenue. Usually through reduced taxes and reduced government regulatory interference in the economy. The only problem is that when the additional revenue comes in the weenies in government of both parties always find a way to spend it and it is never spent on debt reduction and the accumulated debt increases.

The Democrat way is to raise taxes to bring in more revenue. However, that always hurts the economy and the cost of government stills increases along with the accumulated debt.

Both ways suck.

 

[bripat9643]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

 

[DBA]

The Republican way is to try to grow the economy so as to bring in more revenue. Usually through reduced taxes and reduced government regulatory interference in the economy. The only problem is that when the additional revenue comes in the weenies in government of both parties always find a way to spend it and it is never spent on debt reduction and the accumulated debt increases.

The Democrat way is to raise taxes to bring in more revenue. However, that always hurts the economy and the cost of government stills increases along with the accumulated debt.

I agree with you about the spending. The thing is, Democrats are wrong on both accounts. Democrats attempt to raise more revenue by increasing taxes(the wrong approach) AND they spend money. At least Republicans got it 1/2 right. If they can just cut back on the spending, we would be very prosperous.

 

[Mac1958]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

 

[Flash]

The Republican way is to try to grow the economy so as to bring in more revenue. Usually through reduced taxes and reduced government regulatory interference in the economy. The only problem is that when the additional revenue comes in the weenies in government of both parties always find a way to spend it and it is never spent on debt reduction and the accumulated debt increases.

The Democrat way is to raise taxes to bring in more revenue. However, that always hurts the economy and the cost of government stills increases along with the accumulated debt.

I agree with you about the spending. The thing is, Democrats are wrong on both accounts. Democrats attempt to raise more revenue by increasing taxes(the wrong approach) AND they spend money. At least Republicans got it 1/2 right. If they can just cut back on the spending, we would be very prosperous.

In therory you are right but it is not 1/2 and 1/2 with the Republicans. Republicans increase spending although not as much as the Democrats. Every one of the administrations in my lifetime have increased the size of government. Even the two best Presidents; Reagan and Trump.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Republican way is to try to grow the economy so as to bring in more revenue. Usually through reduced taxes and reduced government regulatory interference in the economy. The only problem is that when the additional revenue comes in the weenies in government of both parties always find a way to spend it and it is never spent on debt reduction and the accumulated debt increases.

The Democrat way is to raise taxes to bring in more revenue. However, that always hurts the economy and the cost of government stills increases along with the accumulated debt.

I agree with you about the spending. The thing is, Democrats are wrong on both accounts. Democrats attempt to raise more revenue by increasing taxes(the wrong approach) AND they spend money. At least Republicans got it 1/2 right. If they can just cut back on the spending, we would be very prosperous.

I think economist Walter E Williams put it best when he said "I am going to run for a position in Congress. My platform will be I will bring no money back to our state. Would you vote for me?"

The problem is that when government gives us all these wonderful things, nobody wants to part with them. When Trump and the Republicans took charge, they spent a lot of money to fix up Hussein's goof ups like cutting the military thus making us a weaker country. But the Democrats have been in charge nearly the last two years when it comes to spending, and they have their voters to take care of as well.

So what's the solution? A consumption tax. Why a consumption tax? Because when government does this spending, many are not directly effected by it. If it goes to our national debt, it doesn't change my life one bit. If they tax the rich for it, again, it doesn't effect me because I'm certainly far from rich.

If we instituted this consumption tax, then everybody pays, not just half of the people in this country. The budget must be balanced. If it is not, any spending over the amount we bring in with taxes is put on the consumption tax to balance it out so we have no deficit that year.

The consumption tax would be 5 cents on every dollar spent. You want free college? Then it goes up to 7 cents on every dollar spent. National healthcare? Then it goes up to 15 cents for every dollar spent. 600 dollars additional unemployment benefits? It goes up from 5 cents to 7 cents.

If we did it that way, you'd see how much support for government spending they'd lose.

 

[DBA]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

Don't talk about being ignorant. You are voting for Harris for President of the US.

 

[bripat9643]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

Are you voting for Biden? Then you support higher taxes on corporations.

 

[Mac1958]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

Are you voting for Biden? Then you support higher taxes on corporations.

Do you think that I'm a one issue voter?

Do you think that if I vote for someone, that means I obediently agree with everything they say on every issue?

Yes or no?

 

[bripat9643]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

Are you voting for Biden? Then you support higher taxes on corporations.

Do you think that I'm a one issue voter?

Do you think that if I vote for someone, that means I obediently agree with everything they say on every issue?

Yes or no?

That's what morons like you say about Trump supporters.

 

[kaz]

Of course

Biden is a moderate with a long record of bipartisanship. Unlike Trump, he is respected around the world and can restore our sullied reputation.

After years of Trump drama, tantrums and inept decisions....Biden offers a return to normalcy

Yeah, calling people who disagree with him racists, xenophobes, bad people, not black, it's so bipartisan.

Have you ever had your IQ tested to see if you have one?

 

[kaz]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

Are you voting for Biden? Then you support higher taxes on corporations.

Do you think that I'm a one issue voter?

Do you think that if I vote for someone, that means I obediently agree with everything they say on every issue?

Yes or no?

Yes, of course you're a one issue voter. Democrat. It's all you need to know, you're in

 

[DBA]

You claim you aren't a hardcore socialists, but if you look at Biden's published agenda, you couldn't get any further left.

I'm a better capitalist than you could ever be, child.

So you think I'm a socialist. Tell me, what is my position on corporate taxation? Your answer will have to be "Mac wants for-profit corporations to be eliminated and their assets held and managed by the state".

Go ahead. Back up your words for once and prove that I'm a socialist. Knock it out of the park. Man up. Answer the question.

You don't know what capitalism is.

Your position on corporate taxation is that you want them to pay more.

Wrong and wrong.

Your ignorance is your bliss. You're a good Trumpster.

Are you voting for Biden? Then you support higher taxes on corporations.

Do you think that I'm a one issue voter?

Do you think that if I vote for someone, that means I obediently agree with everything they say on every issue?

Yes or no?

If you agree with more Harris economic policies than Trump policies then you aren't a Capitalist. My guess is your social concerns are driving your train. I can tell by your hatred of Trump, the man. You talk about his personality far more than his policies. Typical liberal.

 

[kaz]

Unlike our current President, Joe Biden is not that smart

He is not smarter than the Scientists
He is not smarter than the Generals
He is not smarter than the Medical Professionals
He cannot predict Hurricanes better than the Weathermen
He does not use a Sharpie.

Joe Biden will use the advice of experts to make decisions rather than gut feelings and internet hoaxes

It's funny how you still are triggered by Trump trolling you with the sharpie, then you say that HE is the one not that smart.

That was fricking hilarious, and you keep repeating how totally he pwned you with that.

You're not a smart guy, RW. Not at all. And Biden is a total mediocrity

 

[justoffal]

Other than the fact that he is not President Trump, is there any rational reason to vote for Joe Biden? Does anyone think he is fully capable of grasping foreign or domestic policy issues? Does it make any sense to put the fate of the nation in the trembling hands of a soon-to-be octogenarian? Was Kamala Harris ever seriously considered to be Presidential material?

The first three years of the Trump presidency brought great prosperity and foreign policy successes to our country, despite the treasonous efforts of his opponents. Are voters really willing to throw all that away for the rantings of these radical demagogues?

Nope that's all he's got....but to their credit the DNC has made that a real threat and Biden has a very real chance of making it all the way I'm afraid.

 

[DBA]

Other than the fact that he is not President Trump, is there any rational reason to vote for Joe Biden? Does anyone think he is fully capable of grasping foreign or domestic policy issues? Does it make any sense to put the fate of the nation in the trembling hands of a soon-to-be octogenarian? Was Kamala Harris ever seriously considered to be Presidential material?

The first three years of the Trump presidency brought great prosperity and foreign policy successes to our country, despite the treasonous efforts of his opponents. Are voters really willing to throw all that away for the rantings of these radical demagogues?

Nope that's all he's got....but to their credit the DNC has made that a real threat and Biden has a very real chance of making it all the way I'm afraid.

The dumbing down of the electorate over the years is coming to fruition. The white guilt card has also worked well for them.