Is there any country in the world that blacks...

[James Price]

About the same percentage of Black people live like Tiger Woods as White people.

Tiger Woods is estimated to make between $40-$50 million a year. His net worth is estimated at approx. $800 million. If you think there's an equal percentage of black and white millionaires in the United States, you're deluded. 1 in 7 white families are millionaires, whereas 1 in 50 are black.

Breakdown of U.S. millionaires by race/ethnicity 2013 | Statista

The statistic shows the distribution of U.S.

www.statista.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/10/03/white-families-are-twice-as-likely-to-be-millionaires-as-a-generation-ago/

 

[AMart]

This is how far behind the OP is relative to knowledge about Africa. This link is to a book written in 1973 detailing the damage whites did to Africa. And that damage was still going on when he wrote the book. This was 18 years before the end of Apartheid.

Walter Rodney 1973 How Europe Underdeveloped Africa

Abahlali.org

So, whitey is responsible because blacks weren't educated enough to develop their own countries.

Yeah....you go with that.

Moron.

Blacks developed their countries. Whites destablized potential growth.

What country did blacks develop? Any country that had any development was due to white influence.

Incorrect. Study the real history of Africa.

Africa is a continent. Sub Saharan Africa developed nothing but mass tribalism.

There is no such thing as sub saharan Africa. That is a racist construct bxased on a false claim whereby above the sahara supposedly lighter people lived when that has never been the case. I know whadt Africa is dumbfuck, and you need to study the real history of Africa, or should I say ALKEBULAN, instead of the saltine version.

You big crybaby. We waz N Africans n chit.

 

[Paul Essien]

James Ryan
Of course, it gets criminalized. Black people just do more illegal shit than whites.

All you're doing is repeating what you have already said

I notice the way you are always quiet about white organized crime which never shows up on crimes stats and reports

At its peak Mafia (Cosa Nostra) had some 3000 to 4000 members. Most of those guys had killed at least one individual. They had to. You do not enter this organisation without participating in a murder. Later it became enough to participate in murder, chop up the body, help to kill the victim by holding or setting up the actual murder.

That alone puts the number of their murder victims in thousands. Even when some members did not personally killed anybody others did by dozens. In Cosa Nostra there were dozens of guys who killed up twenty guys and many who had killed even more than that.

And that number is just their murders and just by the Italian American crime. This does not include murders committed by their associates and non-members who were and are involved in that business.

Add to this the drug trade which they have had a huge say in since the 1930’s.

How many people died during those decades from over doses and other drug related reasons?

Thousands at least.

The drug trade by white crime destroyed dozens of black neighbourhoods all across the USA from New York to Detroit, to Chicago to LA. And that was nothing? Nothing criminal?

Add to that the massive commercial thievery, lone sharking, gambling, numbers, prostitution, porn, labour unions, corruption of politicians, judges, judicial systems in several cities, Hollywood and forgery, robberies, transportation, fashion industry, clothing industry, waste management etc.

There has never been any rule in Sicilian mafia that bans killing of women and children.

If they have to be murdered, then they have to be. It doesn’t matter how young a child is or who the woman is, if they are the ones who have to be killed, they will be. Any method will do: acid bath, fire, shooting, strangulation, knifing, bombs.

The murder is the message.

And what happens with these white killers ? They're shown as cool, as edgy, as stylish. Goodfellas ? Untouchables ? The Sopraonos ? Al Capone in Untochables ? Godfather ?

White people are always trying to humanize white killers. Every week there is some documentary on a Jeffery Dalhmer, A John Gacy, a Ted Bundy etc

It is very funny how you promoting the idea of black criminality somehow forget all that

There are types of crime that goes on this world, that's going on, on the dark web that doesn't show on crime. Not to mention that the police on crimes pn black people all day.

 

[Dadoalex]

The "QUESTION" poses false equivalences.

PoC should NEVER object to the obvious racism pervasive in this country.
Because
Other places are worse

This is a straw man argument based on your own prejudices.

Do you believe America is the most racist country in the world?

don't know.
Only been to Only been to around a dozen countries

Do you believe there is no racism in America?
If so, why?
If you do believe there is racism in America are you willing to accept that fact without trying to change it?
and
If so...
Whatcha gonna do in a few years when White people are on the short end of that stick?

He said systematic racism not “no racism” learn to read caddokid. If the system is racist there would be different laws for blacks, whites, Jews, etc. Yet we all have the same legal rights. Hmmmmm…..

REALLY?
ALL OF US?

View attachment 499293The same, huh

View attachment 499294

Peaceful Black protesters met with a military response.
Violent White protesters met with basically some bicycle cops.

EXACTLY the same.

They weren’t peaceful, caddo kid

Yes, they were. Try not watching FAUX news for a change.

Ha you admit you’re caddo kid

Uh...OK
Whatever gets that cheeto soaked brain going in the AM.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

The "QUESTION" poses false equivalences.

PoC should NEVER object to the obvious racism pervasive in this country.
Because
Other places are worse

This is a straw man argument based on your own prejudices.

Do you believe America is the most racist country in the world?

don't know.
Only been to Only been to around a dozen countries

Do you believe there is no racism in America?
If so, why?
If you do believe there is racism in America are you willing to accept that fact without trying to change it?
and
If so...
Whatcha gonna do in a few years when White people are on the short end of that stick?

He said systematic racism not “no racism” learn to read caddokid. If the system is racist there would be different laws for blacks, whites, Jews, etc. Yet we all have the same legal rights. Hmmmmm…..

REALLY?
ALL OF US?

View attachment 499293The same, huh

View attachment 499294

Peaceful Black protesters met with a military response.
Violent White protesters met with basically some bicycle cops.

EXACTLY the same.

They weren’t peaceful, caddo kid

Yes, they were. Try not watching FAUX news for a change.

Ha you admit you’re caddo kid

Uh...OK
Whatever gets that cheeto soaked brain going in the AM.

You admitted it again. LOL

You’re one dumb mother fucker.

 

[Dadoalex]

Being polite to a person in denial goes nowhere.

Neither does debating with someone who has their mind made up. I'm sorry I wasted my time.

And so much for the "polite" façade.

 

[Dadoalex]

You do know this is in English, right?
Do you understand, what "An Aside" means in the context?

Yes, I know what an aside is. It's a digression.

If you do, your request is silly.

No, it's not silly. You digressed with an example that's racially anachronistic.

Then, obviously, you don't know what an "aside" is.

In either case, your request was silly as the "example" you're so hot about was nothing more than a story from my past.

Perhaps you are far more racially sensitive than you imagine?

 

[Dadoalex]

About the same percentage of Black people live like Tiger Woods as White people.

Tiger Woods is estimated to make between $40-$50 million a year. His net worth is estimated at approx. $800 million. If you think there's an equal percentage of black and white millionaires in the United States, you're deluded. 1 in 7 white families are millionaires, whereas 1 in 50 are black.

Breakdown of U.S. millionaires by race/ethnicity 2013 | Statista

The statistic shows the distribution of U.S.

www.statista.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/10/03/white-families-are-twice-as-likely-to-be-millionaires-as-a-generation-ago/

Perhaps you should go back and read my response then work on your math.

55% of people in this country are White
about 15% are Black
When you calculate the % of Black/White people living like Tiger Woods based on the entire population then you will find that the % are insignificantly different. I'll help.

Now we know Windmere is a very small very exclusive community.
Let's say total population 1000
Let's say it's split 85% White 5% Black and 10% other
That's 850, 50, and 100 people respectively.
There's about 165M White people and about 40M black people.
850/165M and 50/40M = 0.0000515% and 0.000125%
That is the % of Black and White people living like Tiger Woods.

We good here?

Call me deluded again and I'll be wearing your jujubes as earbobs.

 

[Bojingles]

And so much for the "polite" façade.

It was an assessment devoid of any negative emotion. In my opinion, you have your mind made up, thus it's a waste of my time to debate with you.

 

[Bojingles]

Then, obviously, you don't know what an "aside" is.

I clearly defined "aside". It's simply a digression. Your digression had relevance to my point. You don't agree. There's nothing else to discuss.

 

[James Price]

Perhaps you should go back and read my response then work on your math.

55% of people in this country are White
about 15% are Black
When you calculate the % of Black/White people living like Tiger Woods based on the entire population then you will find that the % are insignificantly different. I'll help.

Now we know Windmere is a very small very exclusive community.
Let's say total population 1000
Let's say it's split 85% White 5% Black and 10% other
That's 850, 50, and 100 people respectively.
There's about 165M White people and about 40M black people.
850/165M and 50/40M = 0.0000515% and 0.000125%
That is the % of Black and White people living like Tiger Woods.

We good here?

Call me deluded again and I'll be wearing your jujubes as earbobs.

A little reading comprehension wouldn't kill you. You answered a question I didn't ask. I asked, "What percentage of black people live like Tiger Woods and Barrack Obama?" Not, "What percentage of black people live in the town of Windermere". To live like Tiger Woods (ie. in the manner of : similarly to) you don't necessarily need to live in Windermere, but you need to be worth at least $50,000,000.

 

[James Price]

All you're doing is repeating what you have already said

I notice the way you are always quiet about white organized crime which never shows up on crimes stats and reports

At its peak Mafia (Cosa Nostra) had some 3000 to 4000 members. Most of those guys had killed at least one individual. They had to. You do not enter this organisation without participating in a murder. Later it became enough to participate in murder, chop up the body, help to kill the victim by holding or setting up the actual murder.

That alone puts the number of their murder victims in thousands. Even when some members did not personally killed anybody others did by dozens. In Cosa Nostra there were dozens of guys who killed up twenty guys and many who had killed even more than that.

And that number is just their murders and just by the Italian American crime. This does not include murders committed by their associates and non-members who were and are involved in that business.

Add to this the drug trade which they have had a huge say in since the 1930’s.

How many people died during those decades from over doses and other drug related reasons?

Thousands at least.

The drug trade by white crime destroyed dozens of black neighbourhoods all across the USA from New York to Detroit, to Chicago to LA. And that was nothing? Nothing criminal?

Add to that the massive commercial thievery, lone sharking, gambling, numbers, prostitution, porn, labour unions, corruption of politicians, judges, judicial systems in several cities, Hollywood and forgery, robberies, transportation, fashion industry, clothing industry, waste management etc.

There has never been any rule in Sicilian mafia that bans killing of women and children.

If they have to be murdered, then they have to be. It doesn’t matter how young a child is or who the woman is, if they are the ones who have to be killed, they will be. Any method will do: acid bath, fire, shooting, strangulation, knifing, bombs.

The murder is the message.

You're long on claims and short on stats. Let's see the stats.

And what happens with these white killers ? They're shown as cool, as edgy, as stylish. Goodfellas ? Untouchables ? The Sopraonos ? Al Capone in Untochables ? Godfather ?

Don't preach to me about glorification of the Mafia. Hip Hop routinely glorifies drugs, violence, and murder.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

James Ryan
Of course, it gets criminalized. Black people just do more illegal shit than whites.

All you're doing is repeating what you have already said

I notice the way you are always quiet about white organized crime which never shows up on crimes stats and reports

At its peak Mafia (Cosa Nostra) had some 3000 to 4000 members. Most of those guys had killed at least one individual. They had to. You do not enter this organisation without participating in a murder. Later it became enough to participate in murder, chop up the body, help to kill the victim by holding or setting up the actual murder.

That alone puts the number of their murder victims in thousands. Even when some members did not personally killed anybody others did by dozens. In Cosa Nostra there were dozens of guys who killed up twenty guys and many who had killed even more than that.

And that number is just their murders and just by the Italian American crime. This does not include murders committed by their associates and non-members who were and are involved in that business.

Add to this the drug trade which they have had a huge say in since the 1930’s.

How many people died during those decades from over doses and other drug related reasons?

Thousands at least.

The drug trade by white crime destroyed dozens of black neighbourhoods all across the USA from New York to Detroit, to Chicago to LA. And that was nothing? Nothing criminal?

Add to that the massive commercial thievery, lone sharking, gambling, numbers, prostitution, porn, labour unions, corruption of politicians, judges, judicial systems in several cities, Hollywood and forgery, robberies, transportation, fashion industry, clothing industry, waste management etc.

There has never been any rule in Sicilian mafia that bans killing of women and children.

If they have to be murdered, then they have to be. It doesn’t matter how young a child is or who the woman is, if they are the ones who have to be killed, they will be. Any method will do: acid bath, fire, shooting, strangulation, knifing, bombs.

The murder is the message.

And what happens with these white killers ? They're shown as cool, as edgy, as stylish. Goodfellas ? Untouchables ? The Sopraonos ? Al Capone in Untochables ? Godfather ?

White people are always trying to humanize white killers. Every week there is some documentary on a Jeffery Dalhmer, A John Gacy, a Ted Bundy etc

It is very funny how you promoting the idea of black criminality somehow forget all that

There are types of crime that goes on this world, that's going on, on the dark web that doesn't show on crime. Not to mention that the police on crimes pn black people all day.

View attachment 500196
View attachment 500198

I suspect that any American crime stats are questionable because we can see that the police are institutionally racist and have been for ever.

 

[Paul Essien]

James Price
You're long on claims and short on stats. Let's see the stats.

It's impossible to get stats on crime. You can only get stats on arrests on convictions.

Big difference.

Second stats means nothing with context. More people are killed in cars than are by Grizzly Bears.

So if you really believed stats then I'm sure you'd prefer to sleep next to Grizzly than sleep in car. Of you wouldn't because I didn't give the stats any context.

James Price
Don't preach to me about glorification of the Mafia. Hip Hop routinely glorifies drugs, violence, and murder.

And whio runs hip-hop ? White people. Black people don't run the four major record companies Sony BMG, EMI, Warner Music Group, Universall group

They run hip-hop. Sure hip hop artists have their own labels but those labels are under the control of one of the big four.

And you ignore white man country "music legend" Porter Wagoner, whose song “Cold Hard Facts of Life” tells of a man who kills his wife for cheating on him and Porter Wagoner is in the Country Music Hall of Fame.

Or what about Johnny Paycheck’s “Pardon Me, I’ve Got Someone to Kill”

Or Jimmy Rodgers who sang, “If you don’t want to smell my smoke, don’t monkey with my gun”

Or Johnny Cash who sang about shooting a man in Reno “just to watch him die.” Hell, Johnny even sang that song in a prison to a bunch of inmates.

But it's odd how how the Sopranos never get blamed when white folks kill someone ? Or the Saw movie trilogy ? And the endless list of horror-slasher movies.
.
Also most hip hop is bought by whites. It's whites who have made the thug image has been marketable and created a financial incentive for black artists to play to that image

If white folks were interested in buying CDs and downloading music by rap artists who sang about radical social transformation and community uplift and racism (and yes there are many such artists out there) then that’s the music that would be churned out in larger numbers.

But whites aren’t looking to buy songs about overthrowing the system from which you benefit.

White boys in the burbs would rather listen to songs about guns and drugs.

It's white buyers who make the kind of rap you're complaining about profitable but instead of asking for any responsibility from them, you blame the artists for doing what they’re supposed to do in a capitalist system, which is respond to market demand, no matter the social consequences

 

[westwall]

James Ryan
Of course, it gets criminalized. Black people just do more illegal shit than whites.

All you're doing is repeating what you have already said

I notice the way you are always quiet about white organized crime which never shows up on crimes stats and reports

At its peak Mafia (Cosa Nostra) had some 3000 to 4000 members. Most of those guys had killed at least one individual. They had to. You do not enter this organisation without participating in a murder. Later it became enough to participate in murder, chop up the body, help to kill the victim by holding or setting up the actual murder.

That alone puts the number of their murder victims in thousands. Even when some members did not personally killed anybody others did by dozens. In Cosa Nostra there were dozens of guys who killed up twenty guys and many who had killed even more than that.

And that number is just their murders and just by the Italian American crime. This does not include murders committed by their associates and non-members who were and are involved in that business.

Add to this the drug trade which they have had a huge say in since the 1930’s.

How many people died during those decades from over doses and other drug related reasons?

Thousands at least.

The drug trade by white crime destroyed dozens of black neighbourhoods all across the USA from New York to Detroit, to Chicago to LA. And that was nothing? Nothing criminal?

Add to that the massive commercial thievery, lone sharking, gambling, numbers, prostitution, porn, labour unions, corruption of politicians, judges, judicial systems in several cities, Hollywood and forgery, robberies, transportation, fashion industry, clothing industry, waste management etc.

There has never been any rule in Sicilian mafia that bans killing of women and children.

If they have to be murdered, then they have to be. It doesn’t matter how young a child is or who the woman is, if they are the ones who have to be killed, they will be. Any method will do: acid bath, fire, shooting, strangulation, knifing, bombs.

The murder is the message.

And what happens with these white killers ? They're shown as cool, as edgy, as stylish. Goodfellas ? Untouchables ? The Sopraonos ? Al Capone in Untochables ? Godfather ?

White people are always trying to humanize white killers. Every week there is some documentary on a Jeffery Dalhmer, A John Gacy, a Ted Bundy etc

It is very funny how you promoting the idea of black criminality somehow forget all that

There are types of crime that goes on this world, that's going on, on the dark web that doesn't show on crime. Not to mention that the police on crimes pn black people all day.

View attachment 500196
View attachment 500198

I suspect that any American crime stats are questionable because we can see that the police are institutionally racist and have been for ever.

Much like your own where all crimes located in an apartment building are classified as one crime to try and hide the exploding crime rates.

 

[Meathead]

James Price
You're long on claims and short on stats. Let's see the stats.

It's impossible to get stats on crime. You can only get stats on arrests on convictions.

Big difference.

Second stats means nothing with context. More people are killed in cars than are by Grizzly Bears.

So if you really believed stats then I'm sure you'd prefer to sleep next to Grizzly than sleep in car. Of you wouldn't because I didn't give the stats any context.

James Price
Don't preach to me about glorification of the Mafia. Hip Hop routinely glorifies drugs, violence, and murder.

And whio runs hip-hop ? White people. Black people don't run the four major record companies Sony BMG, EMI, Warner Music Group, Universall group

They run hip-hop. Sure hip hop artists have their own labels but those labels are under the control of one of the big four.

And you ignore white man country "music legend" Porter Wagoner, whose song “Cold Hard Facts of Life” tells of a man who kills his wife for cheating on him and Porter Wagoner is in the Country Music Hall of Fame.

Or what about Johnny Paycheck’s “Pardon Me, I’ve Got Someone to Kill”

Or Jimmy Rodgers who sang, “If you don’t want to smell my smoke, don’t monkey with my gun”

Or Johnny Cash who sang about shooting a man in Reno “just to watch him die.” Hell, Johnny even sang that song in a prison to a bunch of inmates.

But it's odd how how the Sopranos never get blamed when white folks kill someone ? Or the Saw movie trilogy ? And the endless list of horror-slasher movies.
.
Also most hip hop is bought by whites. It's whites who have made the thug image has been marketable and created a financial incentive for black artists to play to that image

If white folks were interested in buying CDs and downloading music by rap artists who sang about radical social transformation and community uplift and racism (and yes there are many such artists out there) then that’s the music that would be churned out in larger numbers.

But whites aren’t looking to buy songs about overthrowing the system from which you benefit.

White boys in the burbs would rather listen to songs about guns and drugs.

It's white buyers who make the kind of rap you're complaining about profitable but instead of asking for any responsibility from them, you blame the artists for doing what they’re supposed to do in a capitalist system, which is respond to market demand, no matter the social consequences

What does any of this have to do with global black failure.

 

[westwall]

James Price
You're long on claims and short on stats. Let's see the stats.

It's impossible to get stats on crime. You can only get stats on arrests on convictions.

Big difference.

Second stats means nothing with context. More people are killed in cars than are by Grizzly Bears.

So if you really believed stats then I'm sure you'd prefer to sleep next to Grizzly than sleep in car. Of you wouldn't because I didn't give the stats any context.

James Price
Don't preach to me about glorification of the Mafia. Hip Hop routinely glorifies drugs, violence, and murder.

And whio runs hip-hop ? White people. Black people don't run the four major record companies Sony BMG, EMI, Warner Music Group, Universall group

They run hip-hop. Sure hip hop artists have their own labels but those labels are under the control of one of the big four.

And you ignore white man country "music legend" Porter Wagoner, whose song “Cold Hard Facts of Life” tells of a man who kills his wife for cheating on him and Porter Wagoner is in the Country Music Hall of Fame.

Or what about Johnny Paycheck’s “Pardon Me, I’ve Got Someone to Kill”

Or Jimmy Rodgers who sang, “If you don’t want to smell my smoke, don’t monkey with my gun”

Or Johnny Cash who sang about shooting a man in Reno “just to watch him die.” Hell, Johnny even sang that song in a prison to a bunch of inmates.

But it's odd how how the Sopranos never get blamed when white folks kill someone ? Or the Saw movie trilogy ? And the endless list of horror-slasher movies.
.
Also most hip hop is bought by whites. It's whites who have made the thug image has been marketable and created a financial incentive for black artists to play to that image

If white folks were interested in buying CDs and downloading music by rap artists who sang about radical social transformation and community uplift and racism (and yes there are many such artists out there) then that’s the music that would be churned out in larger numbers.

But whites aren’t looking to buy songs about overthrowing the system from which you benefit.

White boys in the burbs would rather listen to songs about guns and drugs.

It's white buyers who make the kind of rap you're complaining about profitable but instead of asking for any responsibility from them, you blame the artists for doing what they’re supposed to do in a capitalist system, which is respond to market demand, no matter the social consequences

You are so full of shit. Your hip hop heroes MAKE the songs. They rap about abusing women, taking drugs, killing rivals, and the cops.

No one makes them write those "songs". Those songs are who they are, and who you love.

Violent, racist, woman hating assholes.

That's on you, pal.

 

[Dadoalex]

The "QUESTION" poses false equivalences.

PoC should NEVER object to the obvious racism pervasive in this country.
Because
Other places are worse

This is a straw man argument based on your own prejudices.

Do you believe America is the most racist country in the world?

don't know.
Only been to Only been to around a dozen countries

Do you believe there is no racism in America?
If so, why?
If you do believe there is racism in America are you willing to accept that fact without trying to change it?
and
If so...
Whatcha gonna do in a few years when White people are on the short end of that stick?

He said systematic racism not “no racism” learn to read caddokid. If the system is racist there would be different laws for blacks, whites, Jews, etc. Yet we all have the same legal rights. Hmmmmm…..

REALLY?
ALL OF US?

View attachment 499293The same, huh

View attachment 499294

Peaceful Black protesters met with a military response.
Violent White protesters met with basically some bicycle cops.

EXACTLY the same.

They weren’t peaceful, caddo kid

Yes, they were. Try not watching FAUX news for a change.

Ha you admit you’re caddo kid

Uh...OK
Whatever gets that cheeto soaked brain going in the AM.

You admitted it again. LOL

You’re one dumb mother fucker.

OK So I answered to a term that means "Great Chief"
I'm sure in your eyes I am a GREAT CHIEF.
But I'm unsure why you think my "ADMITTING" to being your CHIEF is something you would laugh about.

But the world is reasonably certain that in a police lineup you'd be ID'd as the "dumb mother fucker" long before the fart I cut three minutes ago.

After all my tiny brained life form, YOU think I'M your CHIEF.

 

[Dadoalex]

And so much for the "polite" façade.

It was an assessment devoid of any negative emotion. In my opinion, you have your mind made up, thus it's a waste of my time to debate with you.

Says the fellow whose every response was "yeah but pity the poor White man."

But, as stated, you started the "debate" with a false equivalence and ended it by denying your own demand for civility.

EVERYBODY'S mind is made up here. If you've been here for more than 3 minutes it should be obvious.
YOU on the other hand are stuck in this loop about "understanding the sacrifice of the poor White Man."

You come from the ZERO-SUM Game grouping?

You don't believe equivalence is achievable BECAUSE you DO believe that when freedoms are granted to PoC, White people, meaning you, lose.

Since those are your obviously stated beliefs further discussion is without purpose.

I could deliver argument after argument and fact after fact but your response will always be...
"What about the White people and what they're giving up."

And

After the first 4 or 5 of those responses in various formats the discussion becomes boring.

 

[Dadoalex]

Then, obviously, you don't know what an "aside" is.

I clearly defined "aside". It's simply a digression. Your digression had relevance to my point. You don't agree. There's nothing else to discuss.

No, it didn't.
Just an interesting (to me) factoid from my life.

If you chose to infer some relevance it is most likely because you realize the irrelevance of your arguments.