Is the best QB in this NFL Draft Spencer Rattler of the Chickens?

[EMH]

I’m driving for the next 75 minutes
I’ll get back to this discussion

In the meantime, I challenge you to find a scouting report or a professional analysis that says Sam Darnold has a “weak arm”

I’m not dissing Rattlers arm strength, I’m saying Rattler cant routinely make smart decisions. He gets flustered in the pocket.
He struggles to play at an NFL starting QB. That’s why he rides the bench in the NFL.

So, about Darnold.
Find that report saying Darnold has weak arm strength

Parrot is as parrot does.

I don't parrot, I watch football.

Darnold has a weak arm. He demonstrates that every time he throws.

 

[Winco]

Parrot is as parrot does.

I don't parrot, I watch football.

Darnold has a weak arm. He demonstrates that every time he throws.

Well, you would just be incorrect.

Your support for scrub Rattler is very telling.
You support a 1-13 record because he has a strong arm.
So did Jamarcus Russell.
There are a lot of similarities between the two. Russell and Rattler.

This Seahawk Fan has watched EVERY Seahawk Game in their 50 year History.
You have probably NEVER seen Rattler or Darnold play in person.

Darnold, MVP candidate.
Super Bowl Winner.
14 Regular Season Wins, two years in a row.

Rattler, a scrub #2 or #3,
no way considered 'starting NFL QB' material,
except by you.

 

[leftwinger]

Continued here, as requested by EMH

Which teams do you consider currently have a starting QB that should be replace by Spencer Rattler.

AFC East​

• Buffalo Bills — Josh Allen
• Miami Dolphins — Malik Willis
• New England Patriots — Drake Maye (year 2 expected starter)
• New York Jets — Geno Smith

AFC North​

• Baltimore Ravens — Lamar Jackson
• Cincinnati Bengals — Joe Burrow
• Cleveland Browns — Deshaun Watson / Shedeur Sanders (competition)
• Pittsburgh Steelers — Aaron Rodgers or Will Howard (emerging starter)

AFC South​

• Houston Texans — C.J. Stroud
• Indianapolis Colts — Daniel Jones
• Jacksonville Jaguars — Trevor Lawrence
• Tennessee Titans — Cam Ward

AFC West​

• Denver Broncos — Bo Nix
• Kansas City Chiefs — Patrick Mahomes
• Las Vegas Raiders — Fernando Mendoza or Cousins
• Los Angeles Chargers — Justin Herbert

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NFC​

NFC East​

• Dallas Cowboys — Dak Prescott
• New York Giants — Jaxson Dart
• Philadelphia Eagles — Jalen Hurts
• Washington Commanders — Jayden Daniels (franchise QB going forward)

NFC North​

• Chicago Bears — Caleb Williams
• Detroit Lions — Jared Goff
• Green Bay Packers — Jordan Love
• Minnesota Vikings — Kyler Murray

NFC South​

• Atlanta Falcons — Tua Tagovailoa or Penix
• Carolina Panthers — Bryce Young
• New Orleans Saints — Tyler Shough
• Tampa Bay Buccaneers — Baker Mayfield

NFC West​

• Arizona Cardinals — Jacoby Brissett
• Los Angeles Rams — Matthew Stafford
• San Francisco 49ers — Brock Purdy
• Seattle Seahawks — Sam Darnold

In this complete list of 32 NFL Teams.
I see exactly ZERO that would or should trade for Rattler to be their starter.
ZERO.

NYJ, PITT (for certain)
AZ LV MINN (maybe)

 

[Couchpotato]

I’m driving for the next 75 minutes
I’ll get back to this discussion

In the meantime, I challenge you to find a scouting report or a professional analysis that says Sam Darnold has a “weak arm”

I’m not dissing Rattlers arm strength, I’m saying Rattler cant routinely make smart decisions. He gets flustered in the pocket.
He struggles to play at an NFL starting QB. That’s why he rides the bench in the NFL.

So, about Darnold.
Find that report saying Darnold has weak arm strength

You might as well argue with a block wall. The QB that beat him out is on the list of QBs he thinks Rattler should replace. A 2 time MVP still in his prime is on the list. Jalen Hurts SB champ and MVP on the list. He’s a clown

 

[Couchpotato]

NYJ, PITT (for certain)

Do you believe Rattler is actually a starting franchise QB in the NFL? If not why would these teams want him? Geno is a bridge and the Steelers whether they like it or not are a rebuild. Trading for a back up would be dumb.

AZ LV MINN (maybe)

See above for AZ. Minn just traded for Kyler and drafted a QB in the 1st rd 2 years ago. LV is drafting Mendoza and brought in Cousins to be his mentor. Why would they waste a roster spot on Rattler?

 

[leftwinger]

Do you believe Rattler is actually a starting franchise QB in the NFL? If not why would these teams want him? Geno is a bridge and the Steelers whether they like it or not are a rebuild. Trading for a back up would be dumb.

See above for AZ. Minn just traded for Kyler and drafted a QB in the 1st rd 2 years ago. LV is drafting Mendoza and brought in Cousins to be his mentor. Why would they waste a roster spot on Rattler?

NY was touring SB two yrs ago wit Rogers. They had a team built for now not a bridge. If you got nothing or Geno? He looks pretty good compared to nothing. Geno jas failed everywhere. Rattler is better overall. RATT can move and throw better. Geno=turnover machine too.

Sure PITT should play Howard, but they won't? Old time McCarthy and PITT with old time tradition? Just a thought.

LV could use him to keep Mendoza alive and learning? Murray had a lot of chances at AZ, did nothing. Maybe worse than the Rattler.

 

[EMH]

Well, you would just be incorrect.

Your support for scrub Rattler is very telling.
You support a 1-13 record because he has a strong arm.
So did Jamarcus Russell.
There are a lot of similarities between the two. Russell and Rattler.

This Seahawk Fan has watched EVERY Seahawk Game in their 50 year History.
You have probably NEVER seen Rattler or Darnold play in person.

Darnold, MVP candidate.
Super Bowl Winner.
14 Regular Season Wins, two years in a row.

Rattler, a scrub #2 or #3,
no way considered 'starting NFL QB' material,
except by you.

LOL!!!

OK, you've made your point over and over, the only thing that matters to you is that Steve Walsh should have beaten out Troy Aikman.... because the W-L record is 100% on the QB and 0% on the other 44, that's the full extent of your understanding of QB play...

 

[EMH]

NY was touring SB two yrs ago wit Rogers. They had a team built for now not a bridge. If you got nothing or Geno? He looks pretty good compared to nothing. Geno jas failed everywhere. Rattler is better overall. RATT can move and throw better. Geno=turnover machine too.

Sure PITT should play Howard, but they won't? Old time McCarthy and PITT with old time tradition? Just a thought.

LV could use him to keep Mendoza alive and learning? Murray had a lot of chances at AZ, did nothing. Maybe worse than the Rattler.

Rattler is a young QB who showed a learning curve and has elite tools.

Howard of Pitt is a "pre Draft farce."


The argument for Geno is that next year will be a much better QB Draft class, at least that's what it looks like now.

 

[Winco]

Do you believe Rattler is actually a starting franchise QB in the NFL? If not why would these teams want him? Geno is a bridge and the Steelers whether they like it or not are a rebuild. Trading for a back up would be dumb.

See above for AZ. Minn just traded for Kyler and drafted a QB in the 1st rd 2 years ago. LV is drafting Mendoza and brought in Cousins to be his mentor. Why would they waste a roster spot on Rattler?

Totally Agree. ^^^^^^

I don't parrot, I watch football.

You don't watch with intelligent eyes.
Just suggesting that 1-13 Rattler is better than.......

Darnold......SB Champ, 14 Wins, 2 years in a row. Pro-Bowler, MVP Candidate.
Shough.....Replaced Rattler after Rattler went 1-7 in 2025.....0-7 in 2024
Hurts.....SB Champ,
Daniels.....ROTY candidate and future Star.
Dart......Do you even watch the Game?
Prescott....Seriously

Rattler is a better QB than

Darnold
Brissett
Shough
Tua or Penix
Kyler
every NFC East QB
Nix
every AFC North QB because Burrow and Lamar are banged up and aren't the players they were
Geno

LOL!!!

OK, you've made your point over and over, the only thing that matters to you is that Steve Walsh should have beaten out Troy Aikman.... because the W-L record is 100% on the QB and 0% on the other 44, that's the full extent of your understanding of QB play...

Why must you resort to insults.
Because you are a RW conspiracy NUTJOB, that can't handle the truth.
You really are fvccking crazy.

 

[leftwinger]

Rattler had a decent chance at NO but in reality the next guy Shough got better results. At times Rattler looked OK (better than Geno or Murray) both who also had a lot of chances elsewhere.

It's not that easy to find the right team sometimes. Baker was playoffs at Cleve yet still got dumped. Baker got TB to playoffs (twice?) then they collapsed last year? It's hard sometimes to get it all going.

 

[EMH]

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Based on reports from their Week 5 matchup in the 2025 NFL season, Spencer Rattler outplayed rookie Jaxson Dart to secure his first career win.
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• Week 5 Performance: Rattler led the New Orleans Saints to victory over Dart's New York Giants, with analysts and fans noting he "outplayed Dart big time"

 

[Winco]

Google Search

Based on reports from their Week 5 matchup in the 2025 NFL season, Spencer Rattler outplayed rookie Jaxson Dart to secure his first career win.
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• Week 5 Performance: Rattler led the New Orleans Saints to victory over Dart's New York Giants, with analysts and fans noting he "outplayed Dart big time"

Cool Story.
Spencer Rattler outplayed rookie Jaxson Dart to secure his first AND ONLY career win.

 

[leftwinger]

I'm out its NBA time for me NY vs. ATL.

How does the east coast live? The second game not till 10:30PM EDT? Holy Cow!!!

Do you believe Rattler is actually a starting franchise QB in the NFL? If not why would these teams want him? Geno is a bridge and the Steelers whether they like it or not are a rebuild. Trading for a back up would be dumb.

See above for AZ. Minn just traded for Kyler and drafted a QB in the 1st rd 2 years ago. LV is drafting Mendoza and brought in Cousins to be his mentor. Why would they waste a roster spot on Rattler?

I forgot about Cousins. Missed that. OK.

Not sure Murray is any better than Rattler. And I've seen AZ a lot.

Somewhat surprisingly McCarthy QB looked like crap a lot of games last year. I don't know if he can be saved? He's worse than the rattler unless
He can be salvaged.

 

[Couchpotato]

NY was touring SB two yrs ago wit Rogers. They had a team built for now not a bridge. If you got nothing or Geno? He looks pretty good compared to nothing. Geno jas failed everywhere. Rattler is better overall. RATT can move and throw better. Geno=turnover machine too.

The Jets aren’t close. They weren’t close with Rodgers, 2 years ago. They aren’t close to making the POs let alone competing for a SB. Rattler isn’t changing that. There is zero evidence Rattler gives them a better chance to win than Geno as limited as Geno is.

Sure PITT should play Howard, but they won't?

Based on? If Rodgers doesn’t come back (hopefully). They start Howard see what he has and if he’s terrible you draft a QB next year in a year that’s supposed to be deep at the position.

Old time McCarthy and PITT with old time tradition? Just a thought.

What does this even mean?

LV could use him to keep Mendoza alive and learning?

Why would they carry 3 QBs? Why waste a roster spot on a QB you KNOW isn’t your future, when you’ve drafted a QB 1 over all and brought in a journeyman starter as a mentor?

Murray had a lot of chances at AZ, did nothing. Maybe worse than the Rattler.

Kyler Murray is light years ahead of Rattler. And I don’t think Murray is a starter in the NFL.

 

[leftwinger]

The Jets aren’t close. They weren’t close with Rodgers, 2 years ago. They aren’t close to making the POs let alone competing for a SB. Rattler isn’t changing that. There is zero evidence Rattler gives them a better chance to win than Geno as limited as Geno is.

Based on? If Rodgers doesn’t come back (hopefully). They start Howard see what he has and if he’s terrible you draft a QB next year in a year that’s supposed to be deep at the position.

What does this even mean?

Why would they carry 3 QBs? Why waste a roster spot on a QB you KNOW isn’t your future, when you’ve drafted a QB 1 over all and brought in a journeyman starter as a mentor?

Kyler Murray is light years ahead of Rattler. And I don’t think Murray is a starter in the NFL.

I said I forgot about Cousins.

My point on PITT was old timers don't play rookie a QB.

 

[EMH]

I'm out its NBA time for me NY vs. ATL.

How does the east coast live? The second game not till 10:30PM EDT? Holy Cow!!!



I forgot about Cousins. Missed that. OK.

Not sure Murray is any better than Rattler. And I've seen AZ a lot.

Somewhat surprisingly McCarthy QB looked like crap a lot of games last year. I don't know if he can be saved? He's worse than the rattler unless
He can be salvaged.

Murray = old, injured, on the way out
Rattler = young, healthy, on the way up

 

[EMH]

There is zero evidence

that you understand anything about QB play beyond parroting stats.

 

[EMH]

Somewhat surprisingly McCarthy QB looked like crap a lot of games last year. I don't know if he can be saved? He's worse than the rattler

Also compare the supporting cast. MINN has a much better offensive supporting cast, line and WR.

 

[Couchpotato]

I said I forgot about Cousins.

My point on PITT was old timers don't play rookie a QB.

McCarthy is 62. I don’t think it’s the age of the QB he’s worried about.

 

[Couchpotato]

that you understand anything about QB play beyond parroting stats.

Hush. Tbe adults are talking.