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There is a difference between brainwashing and indoctrination. Brain washing is an intensive program of separating the subject from the familiar into a high stress situation of sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation/overload, and highly repetitive suggestion. We did it to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Indoctrination is a highly structured program of instruction devoid of alternative views. It is remarkably easy for parents to undermine even the strictest indoctrination, that is why oppressive regimes separate children from family into a militarized program. The Nazi youth are a good example.
The American Secular education system employs neither of these tactics but a private religious education always attempts the second.
I took part in a debate recently about a religious teaching in schools. One of the things that appeared was the accusation of brainwashing. I took issue with this, because it's just a regular school with a exclusively secular curriculum, only with some added religious disciplines, mostly outside the class room. So the accusation of brainwashing in this context was unfair for me. And I pointed this out. But is there an actual thing called brainwashing? What does the academic literature say? How is the concept defined? Does somebody oppose religious brainwashing in our schools?
And another from the pathetic minority is heard from. LOL
Sad commentary that the majority is brainwashed into believing in nonsense instead of reality. I call THAT pathetic.
Your reality is not mine or billions of others on this earth, you're entitled to your opinion but it doesn't match the facts as most know them to be, including your dear leader I might add.
I have no "leader". Why would any intelligent person give them self over to anyone else?
Really? Then why are you on your knees here daily carrying his water? Intelligent thought from you is a rarity around here and independent thought is nonexistent.
You are an idiot. I have ONLY advocated for respect of the office. I seriously doubt you or anyone could find a quote from me that specifically defended an Obama policy or action.
Sad commentary that the majority is brainwashed into believing in nonsense instead of reality. I call THAT pathetic.
Your reality is not mine or billions of others on this earth, you're entitled to your opinion but it doesn't match the facts as most know them to be, including your dear leader I might add.
I have no "leader". Why would any intelligent person give them self over to anyone else?
Really? Then why are you on your knees here daily carrying his water? Intelligent thought from you is a rarity around here and independent thought is nonexistent.
You are an idiot. I have ONLY advocated for respect of the office. I seriously doubt you or anyone could find a quote from me that specifically defended an Obama policy or action.
Respect for the office does not automatically translate to respect for the person in that office, that is earned.
I have no "leader". Why would any intelligent person give them self over to anyone else?Your reality is not mine or billions of others on this earth, you're entitled to your opinion but it doesn't match the facts as most know them to be, including your dear leader I might add.
Really? Then why are you on your knees here daily carrying his water? Intelligent thought from you is a rarity around here and independent thought is nonexistent.
You are an idiot. I have ONLY advocated for respect of the office. I seriously doubt you or anyone could find a quote from me that specifically defended an Obama policy or action.
Respect for the office does not automatically translate to respect for the person in that office, that is earned.
He EARNED it with the election you moron.
There is a difference between brainwashing and indoctrination. Brain washing is an intensive program of separating the subject from the familiar into a high stress situation of sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation/overload, and highly repetitive suggestion. We did it to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Indoctrination is a highly structured program of instruction devoid of alternative views. It is remarkably easy for parents to undermine even the strictest indoctrination, that is why oppressive regimes separate children from family into a militarized program. The Nazi youth are a good example.
The American Secular education system employs neither of these tactics but a private religious education always attempts the second.
The bolded puts lie to your claim, I'll assume you haven't seen textbooks in K-12 in years. No, it's not easy for parents to undermine, as the children have the doctrines repeated year after year, in subjects after subjects. Now with Common Core, it will only become more intense.
There should be NO federal dept of education.....Public education is a local concern....The states should have control independent of federal interference.
That will never happen because the money from the federal government is too good to pass up
I have no "leader". Why would any intelligent person give them self over to anyone else?
Really? Then why are you on your knees here daily carrying his water? Intelligent thought from you is a rarity around here and independent thought is nonexistent.
You are an idiot. I have ONLY advocated for respect of the office. I seriously doubt you or anyone could find a quote from me that specifically defended an Obama policy or action.
Respect for the office does not automatically translate to respect for the person in that office, that is earned.
He EARNED it with the election you moron.
Wrong, numskull, winning an election doesn't entitle you to respect from anyone.
well said.Brain washing is the end result of propaganda. You believe what is not correct. Religion prohibits a mind from recognizing logical reasoning by virtue of the belief of fairy tales that have no foundation in reality.I took part in a debate recently about a religious teaching in schools. One of the things that appeared was the accusation of brainwashing. I took issue with this, because it's just a regular school with a exclusively secular curriculum, only with some added religious disciplines, mostly outside the class room. So the accusation of brainwashing in this context was unfair for me. And I pointed this out. But is there an actual thing called brainwashing? What does the academic literature say? How is the concept defined? Does somebody oppose religious brainwashing in our schools?
seriously? this BRAINWASHED Obama dupe is one of those fools afraid to look at the facts that Obama is not a US citizen? seriously?You are correct, I do not like scams.Of course, the mega-churches they belong to run them and persuade them to open that checkbook once again.
We get it, you don't like religion. Carry on.
What ever. You're in the pathetic, extremely small minority.
Interesting how some twist words to mean the exact opposite. Sorry Bozo, it is "pathetic" to believe in fairy tales.
ROFLMNAO!
This from a gal who feels that obama, born to a foreign national, is a 'natural born citizen' of the United States.
You are correct, I do not like scams.We get it, you don't like religion. Carry on.
What ever. You're in the pathetic, extremely small minority.
Interesting how some twist words to mean the exact opposite. Sorry Bozo, it is "pathetic" to believe in fairy tales.
ROFLMNAO!
This from a gal who feels that obama, born to a foreign national, is a 'natural born citizen' of the United States.
You are very confused. I've never made a statement on Obama's birth status. Plus I am a 65 year old male.
... conservative Christians ...
Government shouldn't be involved in education whatsoever because brainwashing is an essential part of education. One thing we don't need is government minions brainwashing our children.I took part in a debate recently about a religious teaching in schools. One of the things that appeared was the accusation of brainwashing. I took issue with this, because it's just a regular school with a exclusively secular curriculum, only with some added religious disciplines, mostly outside the class room. So the accusation of brainwashing in this context was unfair for me. And I pointed this out. But is there an actual thing called brainwashing? What does the academic literature say? How is the concept defined? Does somebody oppose religious brainwashing in our schools?
I don't think it is brainwashing. People who say that don't understand where that term comes from and they should educate themselves.
If we are talking about public schools, then religion has no place in the curriculum at all - except from a purely academic/historical/sociological perspective. This is because we have mandatory schooling, which means the kids there don't have a choice but to attend. It is not the place of the government to indoctrinate anyone into any given religion. If the students want to have a religious club or engage in religious activity on their own that does not interfere with the activities of the school, that is not an issue. Private schools are free to do as they please, for the students there (through their parents) are making the choice to participate.
well said.I have no "leader". Why would any intelligent person give them self over to anyone else?
Really? Then why are you on your knees here daily carrying his water? Intelligent thought from you is a rarity around here and independent thought is nonexistent.
You are an idiot. I have ONLY advocated for respect of the office. I seriously doubt you or anyone could find a quote from me that specifically defended an Obama policy or action.
Respect for the office does not automatically translate to respect for the person in that office, that is earned.
He EARNED it with the election you moron.
Wrong, numskull, winning an election doesn't entitle you to respect from anyone.
Are they sending them away from their parent's influence like those poor kids at Jesus camp? No they are not, every night they go home and have every opportunity to talk about what they have learned that day and every parent has the opportunity to tell them their version, whatever that may be. Do you really think kids in school have zero access to supplementary and contradictory sources of information from parents, teachers, libraries or the internet? They are awash with all sorts of information, not just one official version.There is a difference between brainwashing and indoctrination. Brain washing is an intensive program of separating the subject from the familiar into a high stress situation of sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation/overload, and highly repetitive suggestion. We did it to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Indoctrination is a highly structured program of instruction devoid of alternative views. It is remarkably easy for parents to undermine even the strictest indoctrination, that is why oppressive regimes separate children from family into a militarized program. The Nazi youth are a good example.
The American Secular education system employs neither of these tactics but a private religious education always attempts the second.
I bet you typed all that crap with a straight face, didn't ya? The NEA has been indoctrinating our kids with the progressive ideology for more than 40 years and it's only gotten worse since the invention of the DOE.
Your prejudice is apparent in your reply, the kids going to those "Jesus camps" as you call them probably have more opportunity for outside influence than the unmotivated victim class that the left exploits, But let's not let facts get in the way of good propaganda.
Your reality is not mine or billions of others on this earth, you're entitled to your opinion but it doesn't match the facts as most know them to be, including your dear leader I might add.
I have no "leader". Why would any intelligent person give them self over to anyone else?
Really? Then why are you on your knees here daily carrying his water? Intelligent thought from you is a rarity around here and independent thought is nonexistent.
You are an idiot. I have ONLY advocated for respect of the office. I seriously doubt you or anyone could find a quote from me that specifically defended an Obama policy or action.
Respect for the office does not automatically translate to respect for the person in that office, that is earned.
He EARNED it with the election you moron.
Someone such as you, really should not throw the word "prejudice" around so loosely. It shows the hypocrite in you.
Are they sending them away from their parent's influence like those poor kids at Jesus camp? No they are not, every night they go home and have every opportunity to talk about what they have learned that day and every parent has the opportunity to tell them their version, whatever that may be. Do you really think kids in school have zero access to supplementary and contradictory sources of information from parents, teachers, libraries or the internet? They are awash with all sorts of information, not just one official version.There is a difference between brainwashing and indoctrination. Brain washing is an intensive program of separating the subject from the familiar into a high stress situation of sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation/overload, and highly repetitive suggestion. We did it to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Indoctrination is a highly structured program of instruction devoid of alternative views. It is remarkably easy for parents to undermine even the strictest indoctrination, that is why oppressive regimes separate children from family into a militarized program. The Nazi youth are a good example.
The American Secular education system employs neither of these tactics but a private religious education always attempts the second.
I bet you typed all that crap with a straight face, didn't ya? The NEA has been indoctrinating our kids with the progressive ideology for more than 40 years and it's only gotten worse since the invention of the DOE.
Your prejudice is apparent in your reply, the kids going to those "Jesus camps" as you call them probably have more opportunity for outside influence than the unmotivated victim class that the left exploits, But let's not let facts get in the way of good propaganda.
Are they sending them away from their parent's influence like those poor kids at Jesus camp? No they are not, every night they go home and have every opportunity to talk about what they have learned that day and every parent has the opportunity to tell them their version, whatever that may be. Do you really think kids in school have zero access to supplementary and contradictory sources of information from parents, teachers, libraries or the internet? They are awash with all sorts of information, not just one official version.There is a difference between brainwashing and indoctrination. Brain washing is an intensive program of separating the subject from the familiar into a high stress situation of sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation/overload, and highly repetitive suggestion. We did it to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Indoctrination is a highly structured program of instruction devoid of alternative views. It is remarkably easy for parents to undermine even the strictest indoctrination, that is why oppressive regimes separate children from family into a militarized program. The Nazi youth are a good example.
The American Secular education system employs neither of these tactics but a private religious education always attempts the second.
I bet you typed all that crap with a straight face, didn't ya? The NEA has been indoctrinating our kids with the progressive ideology for more than 40 years and it's only gotten worse since the invention of the DOE.
Your prejudice is apparent in your reply, the kids going to those "Jesus camps" as you call them probably have more opportunity for outside influence than the unmotivated victim class that the left exploits, But let's not let facts get in the way of good propaganda.
Are they sending them away from their parent's influence like those poor kids at Jesus camp? No they are not, every night they go home and have every opportunity to talk about what they have learned that day and every parent has the opportunity to tell them their version, whatever that may be. Do you really think kids in school have zero access to supplementary and contradictory sources of information from parents, teachers, libraries or the internet? They are awash with all sorts of information, not just one official version.There is a difference between brainwashing and indoctrination. Brain washing is an intensive program of separating the subject from the familiar into a high stress situation of sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation/overload, and highly repetitive suggestion. We did it to Al Qaeda prisoners.
Indoctrination is a highly structured program of instruction devoid of alternative views. It is remarkably easy for parents to undermine even the strictest indoctrination, that is why oppressive regimes separate children from family into a militarized program. The Nazi youth are a good example.
The American Secular education system employs neither of these tactics but a private religious education always attempts the second.
I bet you typed all that crap with a straight face, didn't ya? The NEA has been indoctrinating our kids with the progressive ideology for more than 40 years and it's only gotten worse since the invention of the DOE.
Your prejudice is apparent in your reply, the kids going to those "Jesus camps" as you call them probably have more opportunity for outside influence than the unmotivated victim class that the left exploits, But let's not let facts get in the way of good propaganda.
Since the dawn of religion, religions have used indoctrination as an useful tool in their toolbox - St. Francis Xavier (1506-1552): “Give me the child until he is seven and I’ll give you the man”.
All of the Jesus camps I glanced at had some sort of mission statement similar to;
LIFE-CHANGING SUMMER EXPERIENCES FOR KIDS AND YOUTH
From week long kids and youth camps, to mission projects, or 2-8 week gender-specific camps, there's an experience waiting for you. Find a camp that fits your group today
And-----and I would think that any parents that are willing to fork over $50, $100...∞/day to indoctrinate their children are catapulting the propaganda in their religion 24/7/365 in their homes.
If you don't think children's open minds are not susceptible to brainwashing/propaganda/indoctrination, send your children to a camp that promotes a religion you disagree with - just for the sake of diversity training, of course.
brain·wash
ˈbrānˌwôSH,ˈbrānˌwäSH/indoctrinate, condition, reeducate, persuade, influence, propagandize, inculcate
"the evidence is compelling that these cult members were indeed brainwashed"
