Iran demands to end the war

[Zavulon]

Meanwhile, airbase Fairford, England, which was used for B-52 bombers attacking Iran, is burning. One shouldn't underestimate effectiveness of sabotage groups, especially in Muslim countries, like England.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Trump made a decision that hurt the American people and our allies
All without asking for their input

No. First of all, the USA have been directly proliferating nuclear weapons by their program of "nuclear sharing" (however useless in military sense). Second - by illegal and unprovoked attacks on non-nuclear states, the USA force other non-nuclear states seeks the opportunity to deter the USA. And the only thing that can deter the USA is nuclear weapons.

It is unclear whether you don't understand what nuclear sharing means or what non prolideration means.

 

[Zavulon]

It is unclear whether you don't understand what nuclear sharing means or what non prolideration means.

When you give (formally American) nukes to Germans, teach them to use them, and say that the code of activation is 0000000, it's yes, looks like proliferation.

 

[toomuchtime_]

When you give (formally American) nukes to Germans, teach them to use them, and say that the code of activation is 0000000, it's yes, looks like proliferation.

But that, of course is not what nuclear sharing is. The weapons remain under US control no matter where they are and only the US can activate them. If anything, it discourages other NATO nations from developing their own nuclear arsenals.

Let's keep the record straight; you are the one who advocates for nuclear proliferation, and the US is and has always been the foremost advocate for nonproliferation.

 

[Zavulon]

But that, of course is not what nuclear sharing is. The weapons remain under US control no matter where they are and only the US can activate them.

When the code is 0000000 and Germans know it, if the weapons are guarded by Germans, if Germans can use it... Ok, it effectively means that the weapon is under German control.

Let's keep the record straight; you are the one who advocates for nuclear proliferation, and the US is and has always been the foremost advocate for nonproliferation.

Of course no. If there were a way to deter America from illegal and unprovoked aggressions, if there were a way to make America reasonable and responsible memeber of the international community, I would be first who advocate for keeping non-prolifiration regime.

But in the current circumstances, I think, NPT is dead, and it's dead because America had killed it. Sad, but true.

 

[toomuchtime_]

When the code is 0000000 and Germans know it, if the weapons are guarded by Germans, if Germans can use it... Ok, it effectively means that the weapon is under German control.


Of course no. If there were a way to deter America from illegal and unprovoked aggressions, if there were a way to make America reasonable and responsible memeber of the international community, I would be first who advocate for keeping non-prolifiration regime.

But in the current circumstances, I think, NPT is dead, and it's dead because America had killed it. Sad, but true.

So the bottom line is you are an advocate for the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

 

[Zavulon]

So the bottom line is you are an advocate for the proliferation of nuclear weapons.

To be accurate, not exactly. For example, I'm advocationg for de-nuclearisation of Israel, England and France.

 

[MarathonMike]

Horseshit. Again, they are no where close to even developing fissionable material suitable for a damn nuclear bomb. "With further enrichment", as if enriching uranium to 96% is something like mixing a protein shake in a shaker bottle.

To be as close as Trump claimed to having a conventional nuclear weapon, Iran would have needed to secure and enrich that gas to 90 percent in centrifuges, extract and chemically separate it back to solid uranium, shape it into spheres of uranium metal (a task that is “not simple,” Rofer says) and then construct explosive devices around them.

Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say

Although President Trump has claimed Iran was weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon, much more work was needed for the country to do so

www.scientificamerican.com

So, when Trump claimed we had destroyed Iran's enrichment capabilities last year he was lying? I doubt Iran has the capability to enrich to 90%, I know they can't separate the material back to a solid, and no way in hell they are close to a trigger. And we haven't even discussed their ability to put a nuclear bomb on a missile capable of striking the US.

They have HEU at 60 percent and enrichment to 90 percent weapons grade level could be accomplished very quickly. You don't know what you are talking about.