C_Clayton_Jones
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Trump went in with the wrongheaded notion that an air war alone would result in regime change.Trump went in without the approval of Congress, the American People or our allies
Now he has no way out
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Trump went in with the wrongheaded notion that an air war alone would result in regime change.Trump went in without the approval of Congress, the American People or our allies
Now he has no way out
Yea Bibi pitched that to Biden, Trump 1.0 and Obama. All of them said you're dreaming. They don't have the guns. Trump 2.0 bought it hook line and sinker. He said "okay fine let's do it, what do I have to lose".Trump went in with the wrongheaded notion that an air war alone would result in regime change.
Trump is lazyTrump went in with the wrongheaded notion that an air war alone would result in regime change.
Come on guys. Bush and Chaney wanted a long war so Haloburton could clean up. Chaney's company.Trump is lazy
He wants results without doing the legwork
Germany thought they could bomb Britain into surrender
The U.S. thought we could bomb Vietnam into surrender
Doesn’t work
Actually an air war AND a naval blockade.Trump went in with the wrongheaded notion that an air war alone would result in regime change.
So why do you want Iran to get nuclear weapons and ICBMs?And as usual the blind partisan right rushes to the defense of Trump’s failed, unwarranted, illegal war of choice.
Blockade is war. We declared war on Britain for it. MAGAs never read a book.Currently its not a War. Its a blockade.
Hopefully, the ***** slapping continues.
In the mean time Iran is financially screwed. I hear they are using Barter now
LOL Democrats and their Media Machine sound like Iranian State TV. What does that tell you?Trump is in the drivers seat and libs are squirming like worms on a hook
Yes, I think he’s under great pressure to ease up and give in, but so far he’s holding firm
The unprovoked killing of 241 of our soldiers in their barracks in 1983 was Iran declaring war on us. We finally have a President with the courage to do what should have been done 43 years ago. No different than Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor.Blockade is war. We declared war on Britain for it. MAGAs never read a book.
Horseshit. Again, they are no where close to even developing fissionable material suitable for a damn nuclear bomb. "With further enrichment", as if enriching uranium to 96% is something like mixing a protein shake in a shaker bottle.There you go admitting you support nuclear proliferation and allowing the ayatollahs to target US cities with nuclear weapons rather than pay a little more for gas for a little while.
Obama negotiated a strong agreement, Trump is the one that threw it out. And seriously, WTF does the second amendment have to do with this? Yes, Iran has strict gun control laws. But, I checked some online prices, of course paid in crypto, no paperwork required.It was the right thing to do and long overdo
Obama and biden should have stepped up to the plate but failed to do so
Regime change is the only sure fix to the shia wacko threat
But Iran has no 2nd Amendment so the ordinary people have no guns
Which means it will take time for the blockade to drive the mullahs away to their foreign villas
You seem to be arguing that the US should wait until Iran is close to being able to build nuclear warheads to fit on long range missile that can reach US cities before taking action to end their nuclear weapons program but that just doesn't seem prudent. For one thing allowing Iran to continue its quest for nuclear weapons weakens the US's nonproliferation policy and for another it gives the US less time to prevent Iran from acquiring nukes.Horseshit. Again, they are no where close to even developing fissionable material suitable for a damn nuclear bomb. "With further enrichment", as if enriching uranium to 96% is something like mixing a protein shake in a shaker bottle.
To be as close as Trump claimed to having a conventional nuclear weapon, Iran would have needed to secure and enrich that gas to 90 percent in centrifuges, extract and chemically separate it back to solid uranium, shape it into spheres of uranium metal (a task that is “not simple,” Rofer says) and then construct explosive devices around them.
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Iran was nowhere close to a nuclear bomb, experts say
Although President Trump has claimed Iran was weeks away from developing a nuclear weapon, much more work was needed for the country to do sowww.scientificamerican.com
So, when Trump claimed we had destroyed Iran's enrichment capabilities last year he was lying? I doubt Iran has the capability to enrich to 90%, I know they can't separate the material back to a solid, and no way in hell they are close to a trigger. And we haven't even discussed their ability to put a nuclear bomb on a missile capable of striking the US.
57 days into our 28 day war.7 weeks dude. Seven weeks.
The US is firmly opposed to the proliferation of nuclear weapons.The problem is, that by illegal and unprovoked aggression against non-nuclear states you're just destroying NPT. More aggressions you commit - more nations believe that they do need nukes to deter you. You don't like idea of nuclear Iran? What about nuclear Japan, nuclear Germany, nuclear Brazil and nuclear Mexico?
And you cult has admitted defeat. It's truly sad.57 days into our 28 day war.
What the price of diesel?And you cult has admitted defeat. It's truly sad.
$5. $4 under your demented Zucchini. "THE ECONOMY IS CRIPPLED" "WORLD CRISIS"What the price of diesel?
It should be easy, Iran go to open and fair elections and end the theological government, the strait of Hormuz must remain open at all times and no tolls, no financial reparations , a guarantee to not pursue nuclear anything, and the US government has oversight until the UN steps up to the plate and ensures free and open elections. That they do not fund, train or support any terrorist organizations including Hamas.Key Iranian Demands and Positions:
- Permanent End to Conflict: Iran demands a permanent ceasefire rather than temporary pauses, as stated by Foreign Minister Araghchi.
- Security Guarantees: A primary demand is a guarantee against further aggression, including ensuring the war does not resume.
- Lifting of Sanctions: Iran has insisted on the removal of all primary and secondary sanctions.
- Strait of Hormuz Control: Iran seeks recognition of its sovereignty over the Strait of Hormuz, including the right to impose tolls on ships.
- Financial Reparations: Iran is demanding compensation for damages and war losses, often described as reparations.
- Regional Withdrawal: A key demand includes the withdrawal of U.S. military forces from the region.
- Protection of Allies: Ending Israeli strikes against Hezbollah in Lebanon is included in the reported 10-point proposal.
NPR
Seems that in spite of our Presidents claims that we are close to an agreement with Iran to end hostilities, we are not even close.
Trump has started a war that he doesn’t know how to get out of
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Iran demands guaranteed ceasefire to end war permanently, senior source: Reuters
Iran demands a guaranteed ceasefire to end war permanently, a senior Iranian source told Reuters on Wednesday.www.cnbc.com