JoeB131
Diamond Member
You realize that was because of Democrats, right? Republicans support vouchers
Vouchers are a scam. It's just more White People Welfare.
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You realize that was because of Democrats, right? Republicans support vouchers
Good question, definitely worthy of a national discussion. My opinion, no one should make more than $500,000
You realize that was because of Democrats, right? Republicans support vouchers
Vouchers are a scam. It's just more White People Welfare.
Or we just realize that we have an obligation to our less fortunate members and redistribute the wealth fairly and evenly. There's an idea.
Actually, what the insurance companies did was hire a bunch of people to find new ways to cheat you after you paid in your money. It's why private insurance needs to go.
We spend 17% of our GDP on health care compared to the rest of the industrialized world, which spends 8-11%. We have the worst results in every health care metric despite spending more money. But dumb shits like you are happy to have no insurance because you don't want "those people" to get it, either.
Actually, they kind of do that now if you live in a homeowner's association... but never mind.
Mostly because the money isn't distributed fairly, as even you admit when you whine about actresses.
Sure and they are in trouble for it because what they did was illegal.
Um, yeah... She went to a club fed for 11 days. Meanwhile the poor black lady who used her babysitter's address to get her kid into a better school got five years.
Actually, they kind of do that now if you live in a homeowner's association... but never mind.
No, it doesn't work that way. In a homeowners association, they provide you the bushes. You don't plant them yourself or pay for them outside of your maintenance fee. My sister is not allowed to plant anything in her front yard. Whatever they allow her to plant in the backyard, they don't take care of. However they will not come to your home and take anything off your property to give to somebody else because you have too much of it.
Good question, definitely worthy of a national discussion. My opinion, no one should make more than $500,000.
Nobody buys a product because of anything the CEO does.
Good question, definitely worthy of a national discussion. My opinion, no one should make more than $500,000.
I'd be fine with limiting that. Thing is, a "Famous Actress" is more like a coporation. She gets 10 million and then it's distributed to her entire staff. But to the point, if you are going to see a movie, it's because that actor is in it, if you are going to a ball game, it's because that pitcher is winning. Nobody buys a product because of anything the CEO does.
Nobody goes to the ball park because the peanuts are that good.
OK, so how did you arrive at that number? What is magical about $500K that you think job providers should stop creating jobs and go home after they make that?
JoeB is mentally ill. Good luck to you. He doesn’t understand basic economic concepts. He thinks all whites are racist. Odd person.You realize that was because of Democrats, right? Republicans support vouchers
Vouchers are a scam. It's just more White People Welfare.
So when blacks want to put their kids in better schools, that is "white people welfare." Got it.
Ronald Reagan: It's not that leftists are ignorant so much as they know so much that just isn't so
Skin color is all you think about, isn't it?
OK, so how did you arrive at that number? What is magical about $500K that you think job providers should stop creating jobs and go home after they make that?
This is how confused people on the left are. If 500K was the maximum you could make, people like Joe think that when you make more, you will simply have to give it to your workers. What he doesn't understand is nobody works harder to make more money they'd have to give away. They would sooner not make it.
OK, so how did you arrive at that number? What is magical about $500K that you think job providers should stop creating jobs and go home after they make that?
This is how confused people on the left are. If 500K was the maximum you could make, people like Joe think that when you make more, you will simply have to give it to your workers. What he doesn't understand is nobody works harder to make more money they'd have to give away. They would sooner not make it.
I keep pointing out to Joe that as a Marxist, he thinks that self organizing groups are the most efficient. But actually his socialist system would never allow businesses to operate without government control. That while capitalism would freely allow him to start a self organizing company. But he doesn't. He just keeps advocating government commit armed robbery and redistribute. But if self organizing teams were more effective, that would totally not be necessary
OK, so how did you arrive at that number? What is magical about $500K that you think job providers should stop creating jobs and go home after they make that?
This is how confused people on the left are. If 500K was the maximum you could make, people like Joe think that when you make more, you will simply have to give it to your workers. What he doesn't understand is nobody works harder to make more money they'd have to give away. They would sooner not make it.
I keep pointing out to Joe that as a Marxist, he thinks that self organizing groups are the most efficient. But actually his socialist system would never allow businesses to operate without government control. That while capitalism would freely allow him to start a self organizing company. But he doesn't. He just keeps advocating government commit armed robbery and redistribute. But if self organizing teams were more effective, that would totally not be necessary
We've only been around a couple hundred years, yet we've managed to become the world super power and the richest country in the world. We didn't do that through Socialism. People leave Socialist countries to come here because there are few if any opportunities where they're from. You don't really get just rewards for success. You might live a little better than everybody else in some places, but if your goal is to be filthy rich, you will never accomplish it there.
Unions failed in this country not because of Republicans, but because there was no motivation to work. As long as you show up and are breathing, you get paid the same as if you went there and busted your ass. It didn't do you any good to out perform your fellow worker because promotions were based on union tenure and not accomplishments.
When I drove tractor-trailer and went to a company I knew nothing about, I could tell you within ten minutes if they were union or not based on their performance and attitude. Leftists would like us to be like a unionized country where all you do is exist. There is no point in taking huge risks, busting your ass, or trying to get to the top because there is no top in Socialism unless you're in the government.
Joe said his arbitrary number for maximum income would be 500K. What would that do to our stock market where my IRA is at? What would it do to the lottery games and casinos in our country? What would it do to growing businesses? We're talking hundreds of billions of dollars here in lost revenue. That is leftist Socialism for you.
OK, so how did you arrive at that number? What is magical about $500K that you think job providers should stop creating jobs and go home after they make that?
What about all the people who lose their jobs because we do that? Or you just like government dependency.
We've only been around a couple hundred years, yet we've managed to become the world super power and the richest country in the world. We didn't do that through Socialism. People leave Socialist countries to come here because there are few if any opportunities where they're from. You don't really get just rewards for success. You might live a little better than everybody else in some places, but if your goal is to be filthy rich, you will never accomplish it there.
Unions failed in this country not because of Republicans, but because there was no motivation to work. As long as you show up and are breathing, you get paid the same as if you went there and busted your ass. It didn't do you any good to out perform your fellow worker because promotions were based on union tenure and not accomplishments.
What Joe claims is NOT what most people actually want. He doesn't either. He isn't acting on his Marxist utopian idea of a managementless company.
The thing is, we became a great power because of the "socialism" of the New Deal. It also helped the rest of the world crippled itself in WWII, while we were left relatively untouched. We've been pretty much in decline since the 1970's, when Tricky Dick got stupid white people to give up the New Deal out of fear the Darkies were going to get something. Just so you're clear, Ray, your the guy on the left.
Unions failed in this country because the One Percenters made war on them.
Going back to the model of Germany. Germany has stronger unions and a higher level of unionization than we do. Their economy is a lot more productive. The rich pay their fair share, a German CEO does not make hundreds of times the salary of a line worker. Same thing with Japan. Now, if you used your "logic" about unions, they would be doing worse than we are, not better.
(Wait for it. Wait for it. Ray is going to make a comment about how they don't have black people.)
Money talksJust a does of reality for all you Trump haters. The proof is again in the pudding. interestingly, look who benefited the most. But alas, these are the folks that are lock-step with the Democrats. Ignorance at best. We know it has taken a hit due to COVID, but it can be fixed under Trump. It will plummet with Biden.
Real median incomes of white, Black, Asian, and Hispanic households all increased from the prior year. Lower-income households did particularly well after missing out on income gains earlier in the expansion. The mean income of the lowest fifth of households rose 9% last year, a larger gain than for any other quintile of households.
U.S. Incomes Up, Poverty Rate Down in 2019
he only thing the new deal did was put is in debt and give us unfunded liabilities in our future. The US is the wealthiest country in the world because we are one of the few with a reward system. You work, you invent, you invest, and with some luck, you will achieve your financial dream, sometimes beyond your beliefs.
It goes right back to the carrot and the stick analogy. Which horse will run faster, the one where you put a carrot on a stick in front of him, or the one you feed carrots to all day long? Nobody ever built wealth due to the new deal. It was through hard work.
Unions failed because unlike Germany, American consumers would not buy their own products. In the 80's, better purchasing options became available. and Americans decided to use those instead.
The legacy costs for a US vehicle is over 2K per car. You pay that money for people to sit home with subsidized healthcare coverage, sometimes at such an early age as 50 years old. So many of us American consumers bought Japanese cars without those costs, and your money instead went towards engineering and quality parts. I've had three Camrys in the last ten years or so. Never seen a tow truck, never been stranded anywhere. With 7 year bumper to bumper warranties, never paid a repair bill either.