In the richest nation in the world

[gipper]

To state the obvious, homelessness is a complex and intractable problem. It is caused largely by mental illness and substance abuse, but also by laziness and poor life decisions, and simple bad luck. Many good people end up out on the streets for reasons that are not their fault, not the least of which is a shortage of "affordable" housing - quite severe in some locales.

It is easy to say, "somebody" ought to do "something," or that "we spend a ton on money on [whatever], but can't provide housing for those who need it."

But "we" do not live in a socialist utopia. No government has formally assumed the responsibility to provide housing for those who need it, and certainly the U.S. Federal Government is prohibited from doing so, under the Constitution. Furthermore, we live in a society where masses of people do the least possible amount of work, hoping to exploit The System at every turn, and as quickly as some government or other entity would assume the obligation of universal housing, the need for it would explode.

What is the solution? Be specific. If you know the solution, let other people know, because it sure as hell isn't obvious.

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

To state the obvious, homelessness is a complex and intractable problem. It is caused largely by mental illness and substance abuse, but also by laziness and poor life decisions, and simple bad luck. Many good people end up out on the streets for reasons that are not their fault, not the least of which is a shortage of "affordable" housing - quite severe in some locales.

It is easy to say, "somebody" ought to do "something," or that "we spend a ton on money on [whatever], but can't provide housing for those who need it."

But "we" do not live in a socialist utopia. No government has formally assumed the responsibility to provide housing for those who need it, and certainly the U.S. Federal Government is prohibited from doing so, under the Constitution. Furthermore, we live in a society where masses of people do the least possible amount of work, hoping to exploit The System at every turn, and as quickly as some government or other entity would assume the obligation of universal housing, the need for it would explode.

What is the solution? Be specific. If you know the solution, let other people know, because it sure as hell isn't obvious.

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

 

[whitehall]

You don't have to work or even function as a human being in the greatest and richest Country in the world and you won't starve and you will always be able to find shelter. What a Country.

 

[pismoe]

You don't have to work or even function as a human being in the greatest and richest Country in the world and you won't starve and you will always be able to find shelter. What a Country.

--------------------------------------- i pretty much think that your statement is correct .

 

[Weatherman2020]

--------------------------------- aw well , at least its mostly warm with [probably] lots of feeding stations and liquor stores . Course , where are the POOP stations ??

Yes at least it is warm.

I was downtown last night, in subzero Michigan. A homeless man approached me asking for money. I told him he needed to get indoors. He said he planned to, but needed $2 to buy food at the shelter. I gave him a few bucks.

I wondered later if it is true the homeless shelter requires payment for food. How the fuck does a homeless person come up with money for food everyday? Does he have to go begging on the streets everyday?

Never give them cash. Eight more people giving him $2 and he would have enough for a rock of crack cocaine or a bag of heroin. If you need to give them anything, give them a convenience store gift card. Of course, they can still get beer or wine with those.

I give them cash every time. They are people, not animals in the wild.

Cash which is then spent on drugs and booze.

You are probably right, but I do not want it on my conscience. As a Christian, I believe in helping my fellow man.

You are not helping by giving cash, you are harming. I work with the poor and needy. I've seen what "help" does. Do what I do, go to the local fast food joint and bring them a burger. 50% chance they will toss it, but at least you did not harm them. Other things like have a zip lock bag in your car filled with a toothbrush, soap, comb, etc you can hand to them.

 

[gipper]

You don't have to work or even function as a human being in the greatest and richest Country in the world and you won't starve and you will always be able to find shelter. What a Country.

--------------------------------------- i pretty much think that your statement is correct .

I suspect that many homeless people are mentally ill.

 

[pismoe]

You don't have to work or even function as a human being in the greatest and richest Country in the world and you won't starve and you will always be able to find shelter. What a Country.

--------------------------------------- i pretty much think that your statement is correct .

I suspect that many homeless people are mentally ill.

---------------------------------------------------------- from what i hear , understand the mentally ill used to be 'WAREHOUSED' .Seems to me that WAREHOUSING in government run facilities was at least trying to fix the mentally ill .

 

[Weatherman2020]

Until about 40 years ago it was fairly easy for anyone to start their own business. A business in which a person could support themselves, even in a small way.

Today there are so many government regulations, fees, laws, and outright hostility from the government preventing you from doing it we are seeing the spike in homeless.

Remember Eric Garner, the guy killed by the cops in New York? Cops were there because he was selling cigarettes. The man just wanted to make some money for himself.

 

[TNHarley]

To state the obvious, homelessness is a complex and intractable problem. It is caused largely by mental illness and substance abuse, but also by laziness and poor life decisions, and simple bad luck. Many good people end up out on the streets for reasons that are not their fault, not the least of which is a shortage of "affordable" housing - quite severe in some locales.

It is easy to say, "somebody" ought to do "something," or that "we spend a ton on money on [whatever], but can't provide housing for those who need it."

But "we" do not live in a socialist utopia. No government has formally assumed the responsibility to provide housing for those who need it, and certainly the U.S. Federal Government is prohibited from doing so, under the Constitution. Furthermore, we live in a society where masses of people do the least possible amount of work, hoping to exploit The System at every turn, and as quickly as some government or other entity would assume the obligation of universal housing, the need for it would explode.

What is the solution? Be specific. If you know the solution, let other people know, because it sure as hell isn't obvious.

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

To state the obvious, homelessness is a complex and intractable problem. It is caused largely by mental illness and substance abuse, but also by laziness and poor life decisions, and simple bad luck. Many good people end up out on the streets for reasons that are not their fault, not the least of which is a shortage of "affordable" housing - quite severe in some locales.

It is easy to say, "somebody" ought to do "something," or that "we spend a ton on money on [whatever], but can't provide housing for those who need it."

But "we" do not live in a socialist utopia. No government has formally assumed the responsibility to provide housing for those who need it, and certainly the U.S. Federal Government is prohibited from doing so, under the Constitution. Furthermore, we live in a society where masses of people do the least possible amount of work, hoping to exploit The System at every turn, and as quickly as some government or other entity would assume the obligation of universal housing, the need for it would explode.

What is the solution? Be specific. If you know the solution, let other people know, because it sure as hell isn't obvious.

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

Thats not what i said. However, it is a good way to describe our war mongers in washington

 

[BrokeLoser]

To state the obvious, homelessness is a complex and intractable problem. It is caused largely by mental illness and substance abuse, but also by laziness and poor life decisions, and simple bad luck. Many good people end up out on the streets for reasons that are not their fault, not the least of which is a shortage of "affordable" housing - quite severe in some locales.

It is easy to say, "somebody" ought to do "something," or that "we spend a ton on money on [whatever], but can't provide housing for those who need it."

But "we" do not live in a socialist utopia. No government has formally assumed the responsibility to provide housing for those who need it, and certainly the U.S. Federal Government is prohibited from doing so, under the Constitution. Furthermore, we live in a society where masses of people do the least possible amount of work, hoping to exploit The System at every turn, and as quickly as some government or other entity would assume the obligation of universal housing, the need for it would explode.

What is the solution? Be specific. If you know the solution, let other people know, because it sure as hell isn't obvious.

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

Thats not what i said. However, it is a good way to describe our war mongers in washington

To state the obvious, homelessness is a complex and intractable problem. It is caused largely by mental illness and substance abuse, but also by laziness and poor life decisions, and simple bad luck. Many good people end up out on the streets for reasons that are not their fault, not the least of which is a shortage of "affordable" housing - quite severe in some locales.

It is easy to say, "somebody" ought to do "something," or that "we spend a ton on money on [whatever], but can't provide housing for those who need it."

But "we" do not live in a socialist utopia. No government has formally assumed the responsibility to provide housing for those who need it, and certainly the U.S. Federal Government is prohibited from doing so, under the Constitution. Furthermore, we live in a society where masses of people do the least possible amount of work, hoping to exploit The System at every turn, and as quickly as some government or other entity would assume the obligation of universal housing, the need for it would explode.

What is the solution? Be specific. If you know the solution, let other people know, because it sure as hell isn't obvious.

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

 

[gipper]

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

LMFAO...how much proof do you require?

 

[TNHarley]

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

Thats not what i said. However, it is a good way to describe our war mongers in washington

A rough estimate of our homeless show that over 600K homeless people in the US are Vets.
Not all of them are crackheads and schizos. For a lot of them, WE caused their illness..

We did NOT cause it. A criminal warmongering ruling class caused it.

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

They probably wouldnt have an illness if washington didnt send them overseas to kill a bunch of people over nothing. They probably could have had a career if they didnt have their arm blown off from a war over nothing.
You see where i am going with this?

 

[BrokeLoser]

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

LMFAO...how much proof do you require?

No...I don't need proof.
I'm just asking how we caused it...I can't wrap my head around that statement at all.

 

[grainbely]

Our money is better spent on foreign countries and illegals.
You anti american asshole

And new amazon warehouses and welfare disbursed through the Pentagon on no bid contracts or just straight up "lost". Lets shine a light on the right's dirty laundry welfare.

Homelessness is not a right/left thing. Saying it is only exposes oneself as a partisan fool.

I didn't say it was.

 

[pismoe]

Until about 40 years ago it was fairly easy for anyone to start their own business. A business in which a person could support themselves, even in a small way.

Today there are so many government regulations, fees, laws, and outright hostility from the government preventing you from doing it we are seeing the spike in homeless.

Remember Eric Garner, the guy killed by the cops in New York? Cops were there because he was selling cigarettes. The man just wanted to make some money for himself.

--------------------------------------- yeah , from what i remember Garner should have been left alone . Course then you run into complaint sfrom store owners that pay taxes and Garner was breaking the law i think . Might be that there are too many laws . Seems to me that there are laws on everything . -------------------------------------------------------------- OFF TOPIC I SUPPOSE but i remember being annoyed that the State was telling me that i had to wear a motorcycle helmet and that was back in 1964 and NEW Laws haven't come close to stopping in this [err] FREE Country .

 

[grainbely]

Our money is better spent on foreign countries and illegals.
You anti american asshole

And new amazon warehouses and welfare disbursed through the Pentagon on no bid contracts or just straight up "lost". Lets shine a light on the right's dirty laundry welfare.

Please, spare us your partisan bullshit. We are trying to have a decent discussion.
Thanks

Haha nice try. You made a clear attack on types of excess spending you personally don't like. I'm just improving your list to correct for bias.

 

[BrokeLoser]

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

Thats not what i said. However, it is a good way to describe our war mongers in washington

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

They probably wouldnt have an illness if washington didnt send them overseas to kill a bunch of people over nothing. They probably could have had a career if they didnt have their arm blown off from a war over nothing.
You see where i am going with this?

Okay, I kinda figured that was the case.
BUT grown adults executed a contract agreement. That said...I find it hard to accept any responsibility...you should too....no?
Don't get me wrong...nobody respects our military men and women more than I do...BUT there's cans of worms that should never be opened. This is one of them.
You signed the agreement, you knew the risks, you're accountable...PERIOD!
Don't put that shit on me or anybody else..that's total bullshit.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Until about 40 years ago it was fairly easy for anyone to start their own business. A business in which a person could support themselves, even in a small way.

Today there are so many government regulations, fees, laws, and outright hostility from the government preventing you from doing it we are seeing the spike in homeless.

Remember Eric Garner, the guy killed by the cops in New York? Cops were there because he was selling cigarettes. The man just wanted to make some money for himself.

--------------------------------------- yeah , from what i remember Garner should have been left alone . Course then you run into complaint sfrom store owners that pay taxes and Garner was breaking the law i think . Might be that there are too many laws . Seems to me that there are laws on everything . -------------------------------------------------------------- OFF TOPIC I SUPPOSE but i remember being annoyed that the State was telling me that i had to wear a motorcycle helmet and that was back in 1964 and NEW Laws haven't come close to stopping in this [err] FREE Country .

Laws that did not exist before and should not exist. People should be allowed leeway in free enterprise. The government just puts in roadblocks to keep people who want to earn a living from doing it.

 

[pismoe]

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

Thats not what i said. However, it is a good way to describe our war mongers in washington

How exactly did "WE" cause their situation?

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

They probably wouldnt have an illness if washington didnt send them overseas to kill a bunch of people over nothing. They probably could have had a career if they didnt have their arm blown off from a war over nothing.
You see where i am going with this?

------------------------------------------------------------------------ probably gonna hear it but ALL these Vets signed up voluntarily to be soldiers and then vets . And their sickness , i assume PTSD is not seen in previous generation SHELLSHOCKED soldiers and Vets to the degree that it is seen nowadays . I think that a diagnosis of PTSD is pretty easy to get and is worth some money [i think] .

 

[BrokeLoser]

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

Thats not what i said. However, it is a good way to describe our war mongers in washington

Already stated

The "criminal warmongering ruling class" caused it?
What does that mean exactly?

It means exactly what it means.

The ruling class in the USA is a criminal enterprise, much like the Mafia.

Okay, I get that conspiracy theory...but I can't connect the dots...it's all a bit to trivial. How did "we" cause homeless Vets to be homeless? I'm thinking you'll be able to articulate an explanation?

They probably wouldnt have an illness if washington didnt send them overseas to kill a bunch of people over nothing. They probably could have had a career if they didnt have their arm blown off from a war over nothing.
You see where i am going with this?

------------------------------------------------------------------------ probably gonna hear it but ALL these vets signed up voluntarily to be soldiers and then vets . And their sickness , i assume PTSD is not seen in previous generation SHELLSHOCKED soldiers and vets to the degree that it is seen nowadays . I think that a diagnosis of PTSD is pretty easy to get and is worth some money [i think] .

It's the biggest bunch of bullshit ever concocted.
Why shouldn't every ER Doctor, nurse, EMT, Oncologist etc etc that has spent their entire careers watching people and innocent children die in their arms qualify for a lifetime of PTSD payouts?

 

[Taz]

How is this possible? Where is the outrage? Why is there no discussion of solutions?

Homelessness in Downtown LA exposed in dashcam footage | Daily Mail Online

Also no universal health care. Too busy spending money dropping bombs on people who never did anything to us.

...And buying missiles that have a dubious performance record and that cannot possibly be delivered timely enough to help overcome the threat claimed as the foundation/justification for their acquisition.

• Trump administration moves to boost homeland missile defense system despite multiple flaws

---------------------------------------------- the more that TRUMP can do to attempt to fix or actually fix missile defense system [supposed] flaws the better Xelor .

From a guy who's 19,000+ posts in and STILL hasn't figured out how to load an avatar.