Impeachment Questions...

[Canon Shooter]

So your Republican leaders didn't have anything to do with Gretchen Whitmer's attempted kidnapping?

No, they didn't.

I'd love to see you try to prove that they did, though...

easy

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer suddenly found herself under attack from national Republicans over new restrictions in the state designed to blunt the rapid spread of the coronavirus. Even as cases and hospitalizations spike exponentially, state Republican leaders and members of the Trump administration said the new restrictions were a draconian overreach of Whitmer's authority. Scott Atlas, a science adviser to President Trump and a member of the administration's coronavirus task force, urged people to revolt after the governor’s initial announcement.

“The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept,” Atlas tweeted, before later claiming that he wasn't trying to incite violence.

In an interview with the news site Bridge Michigan, state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey (R) said residents don't need to be told what to do, because they have a personal responsibility to take the necessary steps.

In October Republicans tried to kidnap her. Duh. Don't play stupid.

"Stupid" is the one who believes that Scott Atlas represents "Republican leadership"...

 

[sealybobo]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

 

[beautress]

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

They want to punish the bad orange man, and they want to provide red meat to their base.

They also want to use Trump as an example to show what they will do to a republican that is willing to fight back.

What we will do to any politician who is as corrupt as Trump. That call to the Ukraine was not perfect. You seem to believe it was. And sending a mob to try and stop the government from making Biden the next president. Hoping Pence was going to do god knows what and when he didn't you went to hang him?

Oh you were just kidding? That's what you always say but we know your mob was not. They were also not kidding when they tried to kidnap my governor. You Republicans truly are deplorables.

What Trump did was criminal. And people died. POLICE DIED! You Republicans suck police dick but suddenly if Trump kills one you don't seem to care.

Trump was right he could murder someone on 5th avenue and not lose one supporter.

Are you on your period?

Heavy flow day?

What did Trump say, and please be specific, which was a call for people to attack the Capitol?

You'll never take back our country with weakness.

For years we've been warning you guys that your rhetoric was going to get someone hurt.

So your Republican leaders didn't have anything to do with Gretchen Whitmer's attempted kidnapping? Trump's not guilty for sending a mob to the capitol?

This isn't the first time Republican leadership has done such a thing:

The Brooks Brothers riot was a demonstration at a meeting of election canvassers in Miami-Dade County, Florida, on November 22, 2000, during a recount with the goal of shutting down the recount. After demonstrations and acts of violence, local officials shut down the recount early.

So you guys thought it would work this year too.

Many of the demonstrators were paid Republican operatives. Roger Stone organized the demonstration, and Matt Schlapp was the on-site leader. Republican New York Representative John E. Sweeney gave the signal that started the riot.

People who don't know history are doomed to repeat it. Stop the steal? That's exactly what we did when we kicked Trump out of the White House.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

They want to punish the bad orange man, and they want to provide red meat to their base.

They also want to use Trump as an example to show what they will do to a republican that is willing to fight back.

Fighting back is one thing yet mob violence to answer a political cause is not fighting back when you seek to overthrow the US Constitution like Trump was attempting.

You're projecting...

 

[Canon Shooter]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

Do you think Trump will be convicted?

Now's the time to grow a set and go on record: Yes or no?

 

[sealybobo]

So your Republican leaders didn't have anything to do with Gretchen Whitmer's attempted kidnapping?

No, they didn't.

I'd love to see you try to prove that they did, though...

easy

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer suddenly found herself under attack from national Republicans over new restrictions in the state designed to blunt the rapid spread of the coronavirus. Even as cases and hospitalizations spike exponentially, state Republican leaders and members of the Trump administration said the new restrictions were a draconian overreach of Whitmer's authority. Scott Atlas, a science adviser to President Trump and a member of the administration's coronavirus task force, urged people to revolt after the governor’s initial announcement.

“The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept,” Atlas tweeted, before later claiming that he wasn't trying to incite violence.

In an interview with the news site Bridge Michigan, state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey (R) said residents don't need to be told what to do, because they have a personal responsibility to take the necessary steps.

In October Republicans tried to kidnap her. Duh. Don't play stupid.

"Stupid" is the one who believes that Scott Atlas represents "Republican leadership"...

No, you are stupid

Members of Trump campaign behind rally that ignited US Capitol riot, records show

Members of President Donald Trump’s failed presidential campaign played key roles in orchestrating the Washington rally that spawned a deadly assault on the U.S. Capitol.

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[sealybobo]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

Do you think Trump will be convicted?

Now's the time to grow a set and go on record: Yes or no?

No but so what? That's on Republicans not Democrats.

 

[Canon Shooter]

So your Republican leaders didn't have anything to do with Gretchen Whitmer's attempted kidnapping?

No, they didn't.

I'd love to see you try to prove that they did, though...

easy

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer suddenly found herself under attack from national Republicans over new restrictions in the state designed to blunt the rapid spread of the coronavirus. Even as cases and hospitalizations spike exponentially, state Republican leaders and members of the Trump administration said the new restrictions were a draconian overreach of Whitmer's authority. Scott Atlas, a science adviser to President Trump and a member of the administration's coronavirus task force, urged people to revolt after the governor’s initial announcement.

“The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept,” Atlas tweeted, before later claiming that he wasn't trying to incite violence.

In an interview with the news site Bridge Michigan, state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey (R) said residents don't need to be told what to do, because they have a personal responsibility to take the necessary steps.

In October Republicans tried to kidnap her. Duh. Don't play stupid.

"Stupid" is the one who believes that Scott Atlas represents "Republican leadership"...

No, you are stupid

Members of Trump campaign behind rally that ignited US Capitol riot, records show

Members of President Donald Trump’s failed presidential campaign played key roles in orchestrating the Washington rally that spawned a deadly assault on the U.S. Capitol.

www.chicagotribune.com

Scott Atlas was a science adviser and little more.

He's not even on the same radar as "leadership", dumbass...

 

[Canon Shooter]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

Do you think Trump will be convicted?

Now's the time to grow a set and go on record: Yes or no?

No but so what? That's on Republicans not Democrats.

Oh, but you're wrong. The democrats are the ones pushing this whole charade. If they're not going to get a conviction, what's the point? They've gained nothing except the very real prospect of Trump running for President in 2024...

 

[sealybobo]

So your Republican leaders didn't have anything to do with Gretchen Whitmer's attempted kidnapping?

No, they didn't.

I'd love to see you try to prove that they did, though...

easy

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer suddenly found herself under attack from national Republicans over new restrictions in the state designed to blunt the rapid spread of the coronavirus. Even as cases and hospitalizations spike exponentially, state Republican leaders and members of the Trump administration said the new restrictions were a draconian overreach of Whitmer's authority. Scott Atlas, a science adviser to President Trump and a member of the administration's coronavirus task force, urged people to revolt after the governor’s initial announcement.

“The only way this stops is if people rise up. You get what you accept,” Atlas tweeted, before later claiming that he wasn't trying to incite violence.

In an interview with the news site Bridge Michigan, state Senate Majority Leader Mike Shirkey (R) said residents don't need to be told what to do, because they have a personal responsibility to take the necessary steps.

In October Republicans tried to kidnap her. Duh. Don't play stupid.

"Stupid" is the one who believes that Scott Atlas represents "Republican leadership"...

Didn't you put everything Reverend Wright said on Obama?

Atlas was one of Trump's advisers. He represents the President of the United States you fucking idiot!

 

[sealybobo]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

Do you think Trump will be convicted?

Now's the time to grow a set and go on record: Yes or no?

No but so what? That's on Republicans not Democrats.

Oh, but you're wrong. The democrats are the ones pushing this whole charade. If they're not going to get a conviction, what's the point? They've gained nothing except the very real prospect of Trump running for President in 2024...

We can't help it if Republicans are like blacks who were on the OJ jury.

 

[WTH_Progs?]

I've got some questions about Trump's impending impeachment trial, and I'm holding out some sliver of hope that those on the left can address these questions reasonably and without their usual "HE SAID PUSSY!" or "ORANGE MAN BAD!" hissy-fits.

For this second trial, do the democrats truly believe they will get a conviction in the Senate?

Any criminal prosecutor will tell you that you don't take something to trial unless you're relatively certain you'll win. Needing a super majority to convict, this isn't the case with Trump. It's pretty much accepted that he'll be acquitted.

Second, there's the question about trying someone who's no longer in office. The end goal of impeachment is to remove someone from office. I get that. In this case, Trump's already gone, so removal is off the table. The left will then say that it's to preclude him from ever holding public office again. While that may or may not be true, it's a fool's errand as there's really no chance of the democrats getting a conviction.

The impeachment of a President is to be presided over by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Well, John Roberts will not be presiding over this trial, as Trump is not President. The person who will be presiding, Patrick Leahy, has already voiced his support for a conviction, so he can hardly be considered unbiased, which is required for the presiding official. And, while the president pro tempore of the Senate presides over the trials of those who are not President, there's no Constitutional responsibility to preside over the trial of a private citizen, as private citizens cannot be impeached.

Now what comes into play, and this is a major factor, is the fact that the United States Senate cannot punish a private citizen. Even if convicted, a very definite argument can be made that Donald Trump is immune from punishment by the Senate by virtue of the simple fact that he is now a private citizen.

All of this is, of course, pretty academic, simply because the democrats will fail to get the required number of votes for conviction. But the questions remain.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Doesn't have to be a reason when PROGS, Democrats & swindlers are the source for words & actions.

 

[Rawley]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Not necessarily true. It's very hard to prove many of the allegations as the evidence in other people's hands.

 

[beautress]

I've got some questions about Trump's impending impeachment trial, and I'm holding out some sliver of hope that those on the left can address these questions reasonably and without their usual "HE SAID PUSSY!" or "ORANGE MAN BAD!" hissy-fits.

For this second trial, do the democrats truly believe they will get a conviction in the Senate?

Any criminal prosecutor will tell you that you don't take something to trial unless you're relatively certain you'll win. Needing a super majority to convict, this isn't the case with Trump. It's pretty much accepted that he'll be acquitted.

Second, there's the question about trying someone who's no longer in office. The end goal of impeachment is to remove someone from office. I get that. In this case, Trump's already gone, so removal is off the table. The left will then say that it's to preclude him from ever holding public office again. While that may or may not be true, it's a fool's errand as there's really no chance of the democrats getting a conviction.

The impeachment of a President is to be presided over by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Well, John Roberts will not be presiding over this trial, as Trump is not President. The person who will be presiding, Patrick Leahy, has already voiced his support for a conviction, so he can hardly be considered unbiased, which is required for the presiding official. And, while the president pro tempore of the Senate presides over the trials of those who are not President, there's no Constitutional responsibility to preside over the trial of a private citizen, as private citizens cannot be impeached.

Now what comes into play, and this is a major factor, is the fact that the United States Senate cannot punish a private citizen. Even if convicted, a very definite argument can be made that Donald Trump is immune from punishment by the Senate by virtue of the simple fact that he is now a private citizen.

All of this is, of course, pretty academic, simply because the democrats will fail to get the required number of votes for conviction. But the questions remain.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Foiling the American people to eke full power to shut down free speech is the goal. This is the step by step Alinsky method of controlling all people bit by bit and you are here. Silence comrade or else.

 

[Canon Shooter]

Didn't you put everything Reverend Wright said on Obama?

Um, actually no, I didn't. See I hold people responsible for what they actually do...

Atlas was one of Trump's advisers. He represents the President of the United States you fucking idiot!

He did not, in any way represent Trump. He was an advisor to Trump and nothing more. He certainly isn't "Republican leadership".

But you're an ignorant shitbag, so you wouldn't know that and simply regurgitate what mildly more intelligent idiot libs tell you to say...

 

[Canon Shooter]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

Do you think Trump will be convicted?

Now's the time to grow a set and go on record: Yes or no?

No but so what? That's on Republicans not Democrats.

Oh, but you're wrong. The democrats are the ones pushing this whole charade. If they're not going to get a conviction, what's the point? They've gained nothing except the very real prospect of Trump running for President in 2024...

We can't help it if Republicans are like blacks who were on the OJ jury.

Whatever the reason, acquittal is the overwhelmingly expected outcome.

The democrats are going to be two-time failures at this whole "impeachment" thing...

 

[d0gbreath]

Oh, but you're wrong. The democrats are the ones pushing this whole charade. If they're not going to get a conviction, what's the point? They've gained nothing except the very real prospect of Trump running for President in 2024...

Trump running for President in 2024 is a huge gain for Democrats. We'll beat the stuffing out of him again and make it look easy.

 

[sealybobo]

There will be no conviction in the Senate. Democrats do not have enough votes.

What do the democrats hope to gain from this charade?

Personally, I was hoping that Donald's lawyers would finally take this opportunity to prove that the election was stolen. This is their last chance. If they don't even attempt to do that, we know what that means, and Trump fans throughout the country are going to have to recognize that it's been a huge hoax.

Trump wants to stick to his lie that the election is rigged. That's why his two lawyers just quit. You can get in trouble if you are a lawyer and you knowingly push a lie as your defense. Trump's new Qunon lawyers will try anyways, maybe.

Do you think Trump will be convicted?

Now's the time to grow a set and go on record: Yes or no?

No but so what? That's on Republicans not Democrats.

Oh, but you're wrong. The democrats are the ones pushing this whole charade. If they're not going to get a conviction, what's the point? They've gained nothing except the very real prospect of Trump running for President in 2024...

We should at least try. Why? So he may never hold public office ever again.

Hundreds of Democratic staffers from both chambers of Congress are pleading with senators to convict former President Donald Trump in his upcoming impeachment trial for his part in the events leading up to the deadly riot at the Capitol last month.

On Jan. 6, "our workplace was attacked by a violent mob," the 370 staff members wrote in an open letter. "That mob was incited by former president Donald J. Trump and his political allies"

“The attack on our workplace was inspired by lies told by the former president and others about the results of the election in a baseless, months-long effort to reject votes lawfully cast by the American people,” they wrote.

While 45 Republicans voted last week for a failed measure that said the trial of the former president would be unconstitutional, the Democratic aides are holding out hope that some of them might be swayed to support conviction. Sixty-seven Senators are needed to convict the president, meaning 17 Republicans would need to join all Democrats in supporting that verdict.

“As congressional employees, we don’t have a vote on whether to convict Donald J. Trump for his role in inciting the violent attack at the Capitol, but our senators do," the staff members wrote in their letter. "And for our sake, and the sake of the country, we ask that they vote to convict the former president and bar him from ever holding office again.”

 

[Canon Shooter]

Oh, but you're wrong. The democrats are the ones pushing this whole charade. If they're not going to get a conviction, what's the point? They've gained nothing except the very real prospect of Trump running for President in 2024...

Trump running for President in 2024 is a huge gain for Democrats. We'll beat the stuffing out of him again and make it look easy.

That'll depend entirely on just how bad Biden performs these next four years. Many would-be Trump voters ran to the Biden side when it came time to vote. If those people go back, Biden doesn't have a prayer at re-election...

 

[Canon Shooter]

We should at least try. Why? So he may never hold public office ever again.

But you're going to lose...

 

[d0gbreath]

That'll depend entirely on just how bad Biden performs these next four years. Many would-be Trump voters ran to the Biden side when it came time to vote. If those people go back, Biden doesn't have a prayer at re-election...

If I remember in four years, I'll get back to you. You could be right, or wrong. My crystal ball is in the shop.