Zone1 I'm Not Sure If I Asked This Before, but How Can You Claim To Be A Christian and Be A Homophobe At The Same Time?

I'm not judging. I hate fags. Fags are sick. I'm entitled to my opinion. No real Christian accepts faggots.

Actually being LGBT isn't a mental disorder.

But you keep being you Boomer.

 
Actually being LGBT isn't a mental disorder.

But you keep being you Boomer.



But you keep being ignorant, idiot.


"In a study published in 1987 in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Able said homosexuals sexually molest young boys with an incidence five times greater than the molestation of girls."

"Almost all sex crimes against children are committed by men and significant numbers of victims are males. In 1996, the journal Adolescence reported several studies indicate that up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys.

— Even homosexual activists don’t try to hide the connection with pedophilia. In The Gay Report — a book published back in 1979 — authors Karla Jay and Allen Young found that 73 percent of those surveyed had had sexual relations with males 16 to 19 or younger.

— A 1999 article in the Journal of Homosexuality by Helmut Graupner argued that same-sex relations with minors should be considered a gay rights issue. The article argued that children wouldn’t necessarily be harmed by sexual contact with adults."
 
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But you keep being ignorant, idiot.


"In a study published in 1987 in the Journal of Interpersonal Violence, Able said homosexuals sexually molest young boys with an incidence five times greater than the molestation of girls."


Actually ur wrong.



Gay Groups Try to Put Distance Between Themselves and Pedophile Group​

KIM I. MILLSFebruary 13, 1994
WASHINGTON (AP) _ The gay community has long allowed other sexual outcasts to ride its coattails, from transvestites and transsexuals to bisexuals and leather fetishists. But it is now trying to distance itself from pedophiles.
Last month, a New York group called Stonewall 25 voted to bar the controversial North American Man-Boy Love Association from its international march on the United Nations on June 26. The demonstration will commemorate the 25th anniversary of an uprising at the Stonewall Inn, a Greenwich Village gay bar.
″Those who advocate or engage in sexual abuse of young people are not welcome in the family of gay men and lesbians who live upstanding and honorable lives,″ said Pat Norman, a co-chair of the march.
The gay community has historically been inconsistent in its response to pedophiles, leaving itself open to attack.
In January, the Senate unanimously passed an amendment, introduced by Sen. Jesse Helms, R-N.C., to sharply reduce funds to the United Nations unless it severs ties with the International Lesbian and Gay Association. Helms objected to the association’s relationship to NAMBLA, one of about 350 groups that belong to ILGA.
Helms said the United States was ″fast asleep at the switch″ when it joined other nations in voting last year to give consultative status to ILGA in the U.N. Economic and Social Council.
The council is a 54-nation body that studies economic and social issues and makes non-binding recommendations to the U.N. General Assembly on such topics as human rights, the status of women, population, social welfare, crime and other issues.
David Smith, a spokesman for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, a Washington lobby, accused the religious right of trying to link homosexuality to pedophilia to serve its ″twisted interests.″
″It’s very clear that every major U.S. gay leader has condemned NAMBLA and condemned groups that promote pedophilia,″ he said.
But he acknowledged disagreement among gay leaders about NAMBLA’s presence at gay events. For example, the annual gay pride march in Los Angeles excludes NAMBLA, but the marches in New York and San Francisco have allowed it to participate.
″There’s an argument in the community that if you start with excluding NAMBLA, who’s next?″ he said. ″I disagree.″
Gay leaders say ILGA is being attacked unfairly, and that the association has been trying to expel NAMBLA.
″To conflate pedophilia with homosexuality is an old, old trick,″ said Julie Dorf, executive director of the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission, a member of ILGA.
Hans Hjerpekjon, secretary-general of the Brussels-based ILGA, said NAMBLA joined the association about 15 years ago, when it was a loose network with no rules for admission. Hjerpekjon said many in ILGA would like to see NAMBLA expelled but the group cannot take up a resolution to oust a member until its next meeting, in July in New York.
″Under our constitution, there will have to be an 80 percent vote in favor of expelling the group,″ he said in an interview from Norway. ″And of course, that can be hard to obtain on any issue, but our intention certainly is to expell them and I am hopeful we will reach that goal.″
Hjerpekjon said ILGA has been concerned about its association with NAMBLA since the late 1980s and has urged the group to resign. In 1990, at the behest of member organizations from Scandinavia, Australia and New Zealand, ILGA adopted a resolution denouncing pedophilia, he said.
″I guess the groups, especially the Norwegian group who had been working to get this resolution passed, thought it would be self-evident that NAMBLA and people who thought likewise would resign,″ Hjerpekjon said.
But they did not.
Clinton Anderson, officer for lesbian and gay concerns at the American Psychological Association, said pedophile groups have been tolerated by the gay community because, like the public at large, many grew up hearing the stereotypes about gays ″recruiting″ children.
″I think it probably affects gay and lesbian people as much as anybody else,″ he said. But, ″I think that the gay community has come to realize that the common misconception isn’t true.″
Anderson said psychological researchers have found that convicted sexual abusers of children frequently ″cannot be characterized as having an adult sexual orientation at all.″
″Of those people who seem to have had enough experience as adults to have an adult sexual orientation in addition to pedophilia, as adults they were primarily heterosexual,″ he said.
 
You obviously don't know anything about Christianity. Even Jesus hates Satan,.. or He at least hates what he does as that's sort of a gray area that I'm not a hundred percent certain about since I assume since He created the angels he loves them too and Satan is an angel that went rogue,.. but all I know is that there's no use in trying to describe it to somebody who is totally ignorant of the Word of God and even refuses to enlighten themselves with it. Jesus has basically told us in different words that there's no use in trying to speak to brick walls.
Jesus dosn't hate anyone
 
I think the end game that would be most fulfilling to the vast majority of people, is married with children.


If you CAN do that, you should aim for it.


The rest is bullshit. Dangerous bullshit that is likely to get you and those around you hurt.


That is what I have seen.

All human behavior exists on a continuum.

Stating that everyone would be happy with what makes the majority happy is just wrong.
 
All human behavior exists on a continuum.

Stating that everyone would be happy with what makes the majority happy is just wrong.


Agreed. Anyone that would say that, would be silly.


Now my point still stands.


I think the end game that would be most fulfilling to the vast majority of people, is married with children.


If you CAN do that, you should aim for it.


The rest is bullshit. Dangerous bullshit that is likely to get you and those around you hurt.


That is what I have seen.
 
Agreed. Anyone that would say that, would be silly.


Now my point still stands.


I think the end game that would be most fulfilling to the vast majority of people, is married with children.


If you CAN do that, you should aim for it.


The rest is bullshit. Dangerous bullshit that is likely to get you and those around you hurt.


That is what I have seen.
Why "should" anyone do anything you think is best for them?

And I happen to know more than a few gay and lesbian couples that have been together longer than I have been married and neither they nor the people around them have been hurt by their decisions
 
I'm not judging. I hate fags. Fags are sick. I'm entitled to my opinion. No real Christian accepts faggots.
Why do you get to decide who a real Christian is? YOU cannot be a true Christian if you hate people -people who have done nothing to you and who just want to live in peace. If your Christian God is real, you might be in for a rude awakening on judgerment day when you are barred from the pearly gates because God thinks that you are a jerk
 
Why do you get to decide who a real Christian is? YOU cannot be a true Christian if you hate people -people who have done nothing to you and who just want to live in peace. If your Christian God is real, you might be in for a rude awakening on judgerment day when you are barred from the pearly gates because God thinks that you are a jerk



How did I just agree with you? Did Hell just freeze over?
 
How did I just agree with you? Did Hell just freeze over?

There are some who are saying that the passage on gay people actually isn't saying gay people, but is really referring to sick people who rape little boys.

 
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Why do you get to decide who a real Christian is? YOU cannot be a true Christian if you hate people -people who have done nothing to you and who just want to live in peace. If your Christian God is real, you might be in for a rude awakening on judgerment [sic] day when you are barred from the pearly gates because God thinks that you are a jerk

Given how deeply and intensely you've made it clear that you hate Christians, that you hate anyone who holds to any basic standards of morality, you do not get to tell any Christian what attitudes one must have to qualify as a Christian.

Your depravity is matched only by your hubris.
 
Given how deeply and intensely you've made it clear that you hate Christians, that you hate anyone who holds to any basic standards of morality, you do not get to tell any Christian what attitudes one must have to qualify as a Christian.

Your depravity is matched only by your hubris.



I hate it as much as you do, but he's right. We're supposed to hate the sin but not the sinner. I hate homosexuality not homosexuals.
 
Given how deeply and intensely you've made it clear that you hate Christians, that you hate anyone who holds to any basic standards of morality, you do not get to tell any Christian what attitudes one must have to qualify as a Christian.

Your depravity is matched only by your hubris.
First of all Bobby Boy, let me remind you that this is zone 1. Read the rules. Having said that, I will add, I do not hate Christians. While not a religious Christian, I actually consider myself to be a philosophical. Christian. Unlike you, i follow the teaching of Jesus, by being generous,spreading love, and promoting acceptance. For your part, you promote hate and divisivness. So, no, I do not hate Christians, I only hate Christians, and all religious people who weaponize religion to attack and demean others in the name of religion as you do
 

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