Illusion vs. Reality: The Rampant Voter Fraud Myth

[Dekster]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

Doesn't say a word in there about voter ID. Again, you are a hack, and a hack who wants poor people to remain dysfunctional in society. How do they know you are a citizen if you don't have ID? Is it because you speak ebonics with the right accent?

 

[Pumpkin Row]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

 

[HUGGY]

Nothing like a discussion where one side brings up facts and the other side simply contradicts. I've entered into the 'argument clinic', time to move on ...

Dead people voting - Ballotpedia

It's true that there have been a few cases of apparent voter fraud. However, as my opening article makes clear, the cases have been minimal. The disenfranchisement of voters through voter id laws as well as down and dirty disenfranchisement of voters without even the pretext of a voter id law to back it up, has been shown to be quite real, however, while I also believe my opening post in this thread demonstrates...

Why did you start a new thread when you could have just admitted in the other one that voter fraud isn't a myth? Just because it isn't rampant, does not mean it is a myth.

It's important to keep bringing it up. Voter fraud for the last decade or so was less than 20 reported cases where ID laws and other forms of denial of the right to vote has rejected many thousands of Americans.

The right has been using this ploy to disenfranchise blacks primarily and it has to be pushed into the light of day.

How many thousands of Americans are you willing to disenfranchise to prevent this tiny number of illegal voters?

So what about states who have had these laws for decades? Why hasn't the left said a word about the 15 states where it has been a requirement to show ID in every modern election?

8 in 10 Americans support these common sense laws. The UN supports these laws--at least it is a requirement in elections they help set up.

The left doesn't want to strengthen the integrity of US elections because they are the ones that benefit.




And why don't you and the left follow this logic for everything else that requires ID? You couldn't get in the DNC convention without an ID. Why is it only when it comes to strengthening the integrity of elections that you believe showing an ID is racist?

I'm not ON the left. I just believe in right and wrong. The false contention that there is massive voter fraud as reasons to make voting more difficult is just a damned lie. I hate liars. Constantly attempting to put me in a box labeled "liberal" because I have a moral compass is getting old.

 

[HUGGY]

Nothing like a discussion where one side brings up facts and the other side simply contradicts. I've entered into the 'argument clinic', time to move on ...

Dead people voting - Ballotpedia

It's true that there have been a few cases of apparent voter fraud. However, as my opening article makes clear, the cases have been minimal. The disenfranchisement of voters through voter id laws as well as down and dirty disenfranchisement of voters without even the pretext of a voter id law to back it up, has been shown to be quite real, however, while I also believe my opening post in this thread demonstrates...

Why did you start a new thread when you could have just admitted in the other one that voter fraud isn't a myth? Just because it isn't rampant, does not mean it is a myth.

It's important to keep bringing it up. Voter fraud for the last decade or so was less than 20 reported cases where ID laws and other forms of denial of the right to vote has rejected many thousands of Americans.

The right has been using this ploy to disenfranchise blacks primarily and it has to be pushed into the light of day.

How many thousands of Americans are you willing to disenfranchise to prevent this tiny number of illegal voters?

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

Oh right! The massive voter fraud. You people are such lying scum bags.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

See, it specifies specific situations where people cannot be denied voting, specific grounds. There is no right to vote, because nowhere in the constitution is one guaranteed, unlike the other rights. It does not say "One's right to vote cannot be infringed", it says it cannot be infringed on certain grounds. In other words, you CAN be denied, just not on those grounds. Hence there is no right to vote.

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Dead people voting - Ballotpedia

It's true that there have been a few cases of apparent voter fraud. However, as my opening article makes clear, the cases have been minimal. The disenfranchisement of voters through voter id laws as well as down and dirty disenfranchisement of voters without even the pretext of a voter id law to back it up, has been shown to be quite real, however, while I also believe my opening post in this thread demonstrates...

Why did you start a new thread when you could have just admitted in the other one that voter fraud isn't a myth? Just because it isn't rampant, does not mean it is a myth.

It's important to keep bringing it up. Voter fraud for the last decade or so was less than 20 reported cases where ID laws and other forms of denial of the right to vote has rejected many thousands of Americans.

The right has been using this ploy to disenfranchise blacks primarily and it has to be pushed into the light of day.

How many thousands of Americans are you willing to disenfranchise to prevent this tiny number of illegal voters?

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

Oh right! The massive voter fraud. You people are such lying scum bags.

You must have conveniently ignored all of those zombie voters, and all of those illegals Liberals were telling to vote in states that don't require an ID. You know, the only people that can't get an ID... because they're criminals. I also never mentioned any "massive" voter fraud. I mentioned voter fraud, which has happened.

 

[Wyatt earp]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

Doesn't say a word in there about voter ID. Again, you are a hack, and a hack who wants poor people to remain dysfunctional in society. How do they know you are a citizen if you don't have ID? Is it because you speak ebonics with the right accent?

Checking out the function of the indignant and stupid keys on your keyboard? Of course I didn't write a word about Voter ID. I responded to another's ignorance regarding the implicit and actual right of suffrage in these here United States, fool! Your gratuitous remarks display a tendency to put your feet squarely in your mouth over subjects and topics in your mind only. That is stupid squared, shit for brains!

 

[Pumpkin Row]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

Doesn't say a word in there about voter ID. Again, you are a hack, and a hack who wants poor people to remain dysfunctional in society. How do they know you are a citizen if you don't have ID? Is it because you speak ebonics with the right accent?

Checking out the function of the indignant and stupid keys on your keyboard? Of course I didn't write a word about Voter ID. I responded to another's ignorance regarding the implicit and actual right of suffrage in these here United States, fool! Your gratuitous remarks display a tendency to put your feet squarely in your mouth over subjects and topics in your mind only. That is stupid squared, shit for brains!

Joke's on you, neither of those are actual keys on an actual computer keyboard. Pffft.

 

[Dekster]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

Doesn't say a word in there about voter ID. Again, you are a hack, and a hack who wants poor people to remain dysfunctional in society. How do they know you are a citizen if you don't have ID? Is it because you speak ebonics with the right accent?

Checking out the function of the indignant and stupid keys on your keyboard? Of course I didn't write a word about Voter ID. I responded to another's ignorance regarding the implicit and actual right of suffrage in these here United States, fool! Your gratuitous remarks display a tendency to put your feet squarely in your mouth over subjects and topics in your mind only. That is stupid squared, shit for brains!

Your an illiterate racist who wants to keep blacks oppressed because your masters tell you that is the right thing to do and you are too ignorant to see it.

 

[Dekster]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

Doesn't say a word in there about voter ID. Again, you are a hack, and a hack who wants poor people to remain dysfunctional in society. How do they know you are a citizen if you don't have ID? Is it because you speak ebonics with the right accent?

Checking out the function of the indignant and stupid keys on your keyboard? Of course I didn't write a word about Voter ID. I responded to another's ignorance regarding the implicit and actual right of suffrage in these here United States, fool! Your gratuitous remarks display a tendency to put your feet squarely in your mouth over subjects and topics in your mind only. That is stupid squared, shit for brains!

Joke's on you, neither of those are actual keys on an actual computer keyboard. Pffft.

When you have an Obamaboard they probably are actual keys...

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

If that is your translation from your Bubba To English translator bracelet, then you too are as fucked in cognitive reasoning as Dekster given my post to PumkinHead had no relation/reference to that of voter suppression and voter ID. You folks need to learn to stay on topic!

 

[Dekster]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

If that is your translation from your Bubba To English translator bracelet, then you too are as fucked in cognitive reasoning as Dekster given my post to PumkinHead had no relation/reference to that of voter suppression and voter ID. You folks need to learn to stay on topic!

Sorry I don't speak Wu-Tang Klan. You are obessed with voter supression; I am advocating for poor voter not be oppressed for the 1462 days between presidential elections by not having a freaking ID..

 

[Wyatt earp]

First, there is no constitutional right to vote. Second, requiring an ID doesn't prevent anyone from legally voting, just illegals who shouldn't be here in the first place.

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;

Amendment XV
Section 1.
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.

Section 2.
The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;

Amendment XIX
The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any state on account of sex.

Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

If that is your translation from your Bubba To English translator bracelet, then you too are as fucked in cognitive reasoning as Dekster given my post to PumkinHead had no relation/reference to that of voter suppression and voter ID. You folks need to learn to stay on topic!

What? Now I need a super secrete Ebonics translator ring...


Again:

1 democrats think minorities are to dumb to get an ID to vote

2. But they are smart enough to cash welfare checks . buy smokes and liquor with out them?

Something don't make sense?

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;
{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;
As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

If that is your translation from your Bubba To English translator bracelet, then you too are as fucked in cognitive reasoning as Dekster given my post to PumkinHead had no relation/reference to that of voter suppression and voter ID. You folks need to learn to stay on topic!

What? Now I need a super secrete Ebonics translator ring...


Again:

1 democrats think minorities are to dumb to get an ID to vote

2. But they are smart enough to cash welfare checks . buy smokes and liquor with out them?

Something don't make sense?

I have no frame of reference to begin to interpret your stupidity. What doesn't make sense can be found by you in the mirror. Time for you to piss off now...Bubh Bye!

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

The right to vote was first implied. That is made clear in Amendment XV where the implication is made manifest;
{EDIT:}
I almost forgot another VERY important Amendment;
As usual, you are wrong!

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

If that is your translation from your Bubba To English translator bracelet, then you too are as fucked in cognitive reasoning as Dekster given my post to PumkinHead had no relation/reference to that of voter suppression and voter ID. You folks need to learn to stay on topic!

Sorry I don't speak Wu-Tang Klan. You are obessed with voter supression; I am advocating for poor voter not be oppressed for the 1462 days between presidential elections by not having a freaking ID..

you're a fucking IDIOT making no sense at all so piss off flake!

 

[Wyatt earp]

It implies, but an actual right to vote is never specified. There is no constitutional right to vote. No amendment lists a right to vote. Because it's not explicit on a right to vote, one isn't granted.
None

People just can't deny you an ability to vote on specific grounds.

The right to vote is clearly stated in two amendments to the Constitution. You are fucking wrong to claim it does not exist. To deny the first sentence in both of those amendments stating the existence of the right to vote is abject stupidity! To follow that logic in a like manner, there is no right to bear arms in spite of the words assembled in Amendment II given their isn't even a hint of bearing arms in the Constitution save Amendment II.

If a person cannot be denied the ability to vote as you claim then it should be obvious and logical that the person attempting to vote has a RIGHT TO VOTE! You are trying to make a distinction without any bloody difference. The article you presented is notwithstanding1 A remark made in a speech three years ago is not LAW, fool!

You are in need of a brain transplant!

Translation~ negros are to fucking stupid to get an ID to vote, but smart enough to know where to cash welfare checks, buy colt 45s with out an ID

If that is your translation from your Bubba To English translator bracelet, then you too are as fucked in cognitive reasoning as Dekster given my post to PumkinHead had no relation/reference to that of voter suppression and voter ID. You folks need to learn to stay on topic!

What? Now I need a super secrete Ebonics translator ring...


Again:

1 democrats think minorities are to dumb to get an ID to vote

2. But they are smart enough to cash welfare checks . buy smokes and liquor with out them?

Something don't make sense?

I have no frame of reference to begin to interpret your stupidity. What doesn't make sense can be found by you in the mirror. Time for you to piss off now...Bubh Bye!

Run like the wind fruit loop boy who can't comprehend anything.

 

[JoeMoma]

Not the old canard of voter fraud -.-...
9 facts that blow up the voter fraud myth

You also seem to have missed the issue of influence -.-

Voter fraud isn't a myth. Canadians influencing US elections, not that my friend, is a bona fide Canadian myth.

Nothing like a discussion where one side brings up facts and the other side simply contradicts. I've entered into the 'argument clinic', time to move on ...

Dead people voting - Ballotpedia

It's true that there have been a few cases of apparent voter fraud. However, as my opening article makes clear, the cases have been minimal. The disenfranchisement of voters through voter id laws as well as down and dirty disenfranchisement of voters without even the pretext of a voter id law to back it up, has been shown to be quite real, however, while I also believe my opening post in this thread demonstrates...

Why did you start a new thread when you could have just admitted in the other one that voter fraud isn't a myth? Just because it isn't rampant, does not mean it is a myth.

It's kind of a circular argument. There is little or no voter fraud, therefore we will not put checks in the voter system that may detect and prevent voter fraud. How much voter fraud goes undetected? We may never know. It's kind of like having a bar owner claim that there is no need to card patrons to make sure that they are legal drinking age because he has never detected any underage drinkers. Without carding, how the hell will he know anyway (when he really doesn't want to know ).

 

[JoeMoma]

Here is a good summation of minor issue that voter fraud is:
**In August, Justin Levitt, a professor at Loyola University Law School, detailed for Wonkblog 31 instances of documented, in-person voter fraud that would have been prevented by stricter rules around identification at the polling place. The most severe instance Levitt outlined involved as many as 24 voters in Brooklyn who tried to vote under assumed names.

There are almost no elections in which 24 votes makes a significant difference, particularly at the federal level. The graph below compares the vote total and the margin of victory for every race with less than a million votes in general elections since 2006.**

Source: The disconnect between voter ID laws and voter fraud

Some more points:
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Here are some selections from our reporting on the voter fraud myth and the impact of anti-voter-fraud laws:

• The rate of fraud in US elections is close to zero.
• UFO sightings are more common than voter fraud.
• So is getting struck by lightning.
• Florida’s aggressive efforts to root out voter fraud before the 2000 election erroneously purged 12,000 names from the voter rolls—of the 12,000, 44 percent, more than 4,700 voters—were African American. That was more than enough votes to change the outcome of that year's presidential election.
• Native Americans are fighting a slew of high-stakes legal battles over voting rights; many of the lawsuits are linked to rules that were designed to prevent voting fraud.
• Voter ID laws are among a host of hurdles that minorities face when they cast a ballot.
• A national voter ID card could end the debate on voter fraud, but both parties hate that idea.
• GOP presidential contender Ted Cruz's Iowa chairman spent $250,000 to stop people from voting.
• Interestingly, a conservative activist inadvertently demonstrated how hard it is to commit voter fraud.**

Source: 9 facts that blow up the voter fraud myth

I'm interested in hearing constructive views as to the validity of these sources.

I've already been discussing voter fraud in my introduction thread, so I'll be moving my responses to points there into this thread...

There are several states where voting has always required showing photo ID. It has been the law in Georgia for decades. So by the logic of the left, black people have not been able to vote--or have been having their votes suppressed for decades? Also there are literally dozens of examples of voter fraud. Whether you think it is an insignificant problem or not, why wouldn't you want the election process to be as secure as possible. And what does it say about the people that are standing in the way of doing so?


CBS2 Investigation Uncovers Votes Being Cast From Grave Year After Year

Study: 1.8 Million Dead People Still Registered To Vote

270 Dead People Shown to Have Voted in Nassau County

Ohioan gets 5-year prison term for illegal voting

Because disenfranchising thousands is not worthwhile to prevent dozens of cases.

It's 2016! You really beleive thousands of registered voters do not have IDs or cannot get IDs?