Illegal immigrants

[Winston]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

The liberal compassion to the illegal horde crossing the border was shown in full force last night at the Presidents First SOTU speech. Liberals should be thankful I am not running for president.
1. I would close the borders by either building a wall or getting the military out of foreign nations, put them on the border and give orders to shoot to kill anyone trying to cross illegally.
2. Enact a 5 year Census, going house to house and if you cannot prove you have a legitimate birth certificate with Social Security you are immediately rounded up by ICE and taken to the emergency holding areas that Obama and Bush created for overzealous rioters.
3. Punish anyone or any company known for hiring illegals with $10,000 fine and 5 years in jail.
4. Arrest any politician who aids and abets a known illegal criminal by enacting sanctuary cities, counties or states, give them a trial for treason , if found guilty, send to a country of their choice or executed.
I no longer have compassion for those who come here illegally and demand the same rights that I have. Fuck em all.

going house to house and if you cannot prove you have a legitimate birth certificate with Social Security you are immediately rounded up by ICE and taken to the emergency holding areas

Get the fawk out. Get out of MY COUNTRY. Any asswipe that would post such utter nonsense has no understanding of the US Constitution, completely flunked out of US History, and has absolutely no understanding of just what it means to be "an American". I suggest you catch a flight to Kandahar and join up with the Taliban. Dumbass.

an illegal is illegal. you cannot change that fact. there is nothing wrong with going door to door and doing the checkup.

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

That right does apply to the us citizens. Are you saying you are just as worthless as an illegal?

ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

 

[g5000]

We are talking about dreamers. Who are kids that were brought over . The kids didn’t commit a crime .

So if I break into your house(if you have one) and rob you blind and give all the stuff that you had to my kids, then I could go to jail, but my kids could keep everything that you used to own? Gee, where do you live?

So if bank robbers take you hostage during their ill-fated attempted escape, should you be charged along with them?

So if a bank robber leaves the stolen money to his children they are allowed to keep it?

I take it you are in favor of reparations to blacks then.

 

[Avatar4321]

We are talking about dreamers. Who are kids that were brought over . The kids didn’t commit a crime .

So if I break into your house(if you have one) and rob you blind and give all the stuff that you had to my kids, then I could go to jail, but my kids could keep everything that you used to own? Gee, where do you live?

So if bank robbers take you hostage during their ill-fated attempted escape, should you be charged along with them?

So if a bank robber leaves the stolen money to his children they are allowed to keep it?

And I didn't mention throwing them out. I said if they are given legal status they should not be given citizenship unless they are willing to leave and return the legal way.

 

[Avatar4321]

We are talking about dreamers. Who are kids that were brought over . The kids didn’t commit a crime .

So if I break into your house(if you have one) and rob you blind and give all the stuff that you had to my kids, then I could go to jail, but my kids could keep everything that you used to own? Gee, where do you live?

So if bank robbers take you hostage during their ill-fated attempted escape, should you be charged along with them?

So if a bank robber leaves the stolen money to his children they are allowed to keep it?

I take it you are in favor of reparations to blacks then.

There is literally zero correlation between the two

 

[Winston]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. they are illegal aliens.

Our country was formed by legal immigrants. Not illegal aliens and I take offense each and every time one of our fked up politicians says they are like my ancestors, No, our ancestors came into the country legally. Their narrative is all fked up!!!

Our country was formed by immigrants. "Legal" implies there was some type of regulation or law that those immigrants had to follow. For the first one hundred years that was not the case. We had free and open borders.

Immigration has been regulated for several hundred years

The first direct regulation of immigration in the United States occurred in 1875, a law prohibiting the immigration of convicts and prostitutes.

 

[g5000]

We are talking about dreamers. Who are kids that were brought over . The kids didn’t commit a crime .

So if I break into your house(if you have one) and rob you blind and give all the stuff that you had to my kids, then I could go to jail, but my kids could keep everything that you used to own? Gee, where do you live?

So if bank robbers take you hostage during their ill-fated attempted escape, should you be charged along with them?

So if a bank robber leaves the stolen money to his children they are allowed to keep it?

I take it you are in favor of reparations to blacks then.

There is literally zero correlation between the two

Sure there is. A lot of companies and people profited from slavery. Should their descendants be allowed to keep the money?

 

[Leo123]

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Well....I never overestimate the totally estimable intelligence of poor tards.

 

[Leo123]

Sure there is. A lot of companies and people profited from slavery. Should their descendants be allowed to keep the money?

If you took their money, Democrats would all be broke.

 

[Care4all]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

The only reason would be to give mercy...as God would expect from us... and in order for God to give his undeserved mercy to us, when we mess up, is for us to give mercy, to others who have screwed up....

Yes, they did break the law,

though if they came before the new law passed under Bush2 it was the equivalent of a driving citation or parking ticket at the time....

and even now, after the law was strengthened, it is still only a misdemeanor crossing the border illegally...., it is NOT a felony until after deportation, they have been caught entering again.

I don't think all of them should be given mercy, the criminals, and gang members, or any number of illegal things done could be an automatic elimination of working towards citizenship here....

But I can't help but have a soft heart for the ones that came here, to the land of opportunity, because there was NONE to be had for their family back in Mexico.... I ask myself, would I do the same for my family in desperation, if I were the one being born in certain impoverished areas of Mexico, not by my choosing...or if there was no other legal way to do it???

I honestly do not know the answer to that question, on whether I would take the risk, for my family's best interest....

so, they DO NOT necessarily DESERVE to have our country as their country.... because they did break the rules and laws to do such, but as a great Nation, we can shed mercy on them....

Dreamers are a different story, they being brought here as children, broke no immigration laws....their parents did, but they did not....

 

[Avatar4321]

I would point out how the honest dialogue in this matter is impossible as one side will poison the well on any compromise.

I talk about a compromise allowing illegals legal status with the understanding they will never be citizens and yell bigotry and talk about how we can't deport them. Something that was never mentioned.

Likely this is because they care about votes not the people involved

 

[Care4all]

I would point out how the honest dialogue in this matter is impossible as one side will poison the well on any compromise.

I talk about a compromise allowing illegals legal status with the understanding they will never be citizens and yell bigotry and talk about how we can't deport them. Something that was never mentioned.

Likely this is because they care about votes not the people involved

I'd rather they be citizens and have complete loyalty to their OWN country, the USA... than to allow them to live here, as men without a country.....as subhumans, like slaves of sorts....with no voice...

that is just cruel....If I lived in another country for 20 years and planned on living there another 40, I would not want to be completely silenced by not having a voice in the government of the country I chose, to be my home....

it sounds to me IT IS YOU who is more concerned about them having a vote and a voice in our system than it is Democrats.....

 

[Bob Blaylock]

an illegal is illegal. you cannot change that fact. there is nothing wrong with going door to door and doing the checkup.

There is that pesky Fourth Amendment.

I'm as opposed to allowing invading foreign criminals to stay in this country as you are, but never at the expense of violating the rights of American citizens to be secure against unreasonable search and seizure.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

I would point out how the honest dialogue in this matter is impossible as one side will poison the well on any compromise.

I talk about a compromise allowing illegals legal status with the understanding they will never be citizens and yell bigotry and talk about how we can't deport them. Something that was never mentioned.

Likely this is because they care about votes not the people involved

I'd rather they be citizens and have complete loyalty to their OWN country, the USA... than to allow them to live here, as men without a country.....as subhumans, like slaves of sorts....with no voice...

that is just cruel....If I lived in another country for 20 years and planned on living there another 40, I would not want to be completely silenced by not having a voice in the government of the country I chose, to be my home....

it sounds to me IT IS YOU who is more concerned about them having a vote and a voice in our system than it is Democrats.....

Why? You liberals are slaves to your liberal elites, who look down on you as a slave. Why not just give rights to slavery for anyone illegally crossing the border also, then all of you worthless fucks can then vote for more FREE stuff, and not make something of yourselves.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

an illegal is illegal. you cannot change that fact. there is nothing wrong with going door to door and doing the checkup.

There is that pesky Fourth Amendment.

I'm as opposed to allowing invading foreign criminals to stay in this country as you are, but never at the expense of violating the rights of American citizens to be secure against unreasonable search and seizure.

Is it search and seizure of US citizens that have to participate in a Census? Damn you idiots keep trying to squirrel away from the REAL issue, by trying to put yourselves in their place.. I have an idea go to fucking Mexico the shithole, illegally and try to use their 4th amendment...Dumbass...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. they are illegal aliens.

Our country was formed by legal immigrants. Not illegal aliens and I take offense each and every time one of our fked up politicians says they are like my ancestors, No, our ancestors came into the country legally. Their narrative is all fked up!!!

Our country was formed by immigrants. "Legal" implies there was some type of regulation or law that those immigrants had to follow. For the first one hundred years that was not the case. We had free and open borders.

Immigration has been regulated for several hundred years

The first direct regulation of immigration in the United States occurred in 1875, a law prohibiting the immigration of convicts and prostitutes.

Evil is allowed to flourish when good men do nothing. Another example of liberal thinking and why the dipshit didn't bother to open the link.

How U.S. immigration laws and rules have changed through history

Do you hear a sucking sound?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

The only reason would be to give mercy...as God would expect from us... and in order for God to give his undeserved mercy to us, when we mess up, is for us to give mercy, to others who have screwed up....

Yes, they did break the law,

though if they came before the new law passed under Bush2 it was the equivalent of a driving citation or parking ticket at the time....

and even now, after the law was strengthened, it is still only a misdemeanor crossing the border illegally...., it is NOT a felony until after deportation, they have been caught entering again.

I don't think all of them should be given mercy, the criminals, and gang members, or any number of illegal things done could be an automatic elimination of working towards citizenship here....

But I can't help but have a soft heart for the ones that came here, to the land of opportunity, because there was NONE to be had for their family back in Mexico.... I ask myself, would I do the same for my family in desperation, if I were the one being born in certain impoverished areas of Mexico, not by my choosing...or if there was no other legal way to do it???

I honestly do not know the answer to that question, on whether I would take the risk, for my family's best interest....

so, they DO NOT necessarily DESERVE to have our country as their country.... because they did break the rules and laws to do such, but as a great Nation, we can shed mercy on them....

Dreamers are a different story, they being brought here as children, broke no immigration laws....their parents did, but they did not....

But I can't help but have a soft heart for the ones that came here, to the land of opportunity, because there was NONE to be had for their family back in Mexico....

Liberal compassion either kills people, or would like to turn this country into a shithole, that We the People would then have to deal with. I have a better idea, you want to help them? Pack the fuck up and go to MEXICO, live your socialist dream there, fucking bitch.

 

[danielpalos]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

All foreign nationals in the US should have federal id.

 

[Winston]

an illegal is illegal. you cannot change that fact. there is nothing wrong with going door to door and doing the checkup.

There is that pesky Fourth Amendment.

I'm as opposed to allowing invading foreign criminals to stay in this country as you are, but never at the expense of violating the rights of American citizens to be secure against unreasonable search and seizure.

Is it search and seizure of US citizens that have to participate in a Census? Damn you idiots keep trying to squirrel away from the REAL issue, by trying to put yourselves in their place.. I have an idea go to fucking Mexico the shithole, illegally and try to use their 4th amendment...Dumbass...

What part of

secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures,

do you not understand?

 

[Winston]

should never be allowed to become citizens. Even if we give them legal status the fact that they refused to obey our laws in coming to The US should prevent any future citizenship

there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. they are illegal aliens.

Our country was formed by legal immigrants. Not illegal aliens and I take offense each and every time one of our fked up politicians says they are like my ancestors, No, our ancestors came into the country legally. Their narrative is all fked up!!!

Our country was formed by immigrants. "Legal" implies there was some type of regulation or law that those immigrants had to follow. For the first one hundred years that was not the case. We had free and open borders.

Immigration has been regulated for several hundred years

The first direct regulation of immigration in the United States occurred in 1875, a law prohibiting the immigration of convicts and prostitutes.

Evil is allowed to flourish when good men do nothing. Another example of liberal thinking and why the dipshit didn't bother to open the link.

How U.S. immigration laws and rules have changed through history

Do you hear a sucking sound?

View attachment 174356

What law regulated IMMIGRATION before 1875?

 

[danielpalos]

there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant. they are illegal aliens.

Our country was formed by legal immigrants. Not illegal aliens and I take offense each and every time one of our fked up politicians says they are like my ancestors, No, our ancestors came into the country legally. Their narrative is all fked up!!!

Our country was formed by immigrants. "Legal" implies there was some type of regulation or law that those immigrants had to follow. For the first one hundred years that was not the case. We had free and open borders.

Immigration has been regulated for several hundred years

The first direct regulation of immigration in the United States occurred in 1875, a law prohibiting the immigration of convicts and prostitutes.

Evil is allowed to flourish when good men do nothing. Another example of liberal thinking and why the dipshit didn't bother to open the link.

How U.S. immigration laws and rules have changed through history

Do you hear a sucking sound?

View attachment 174356

What law regulated IMMIGRATION before 1875?

It was a States' sovereign right until 1808.