If we can't see an atom or a god, how do we 'prove' or 'disprove' these things exist, and do we even need proof?

Procrustes Stretched

And you say, "Oh my God, am I here all alone?"
Dec 1, 2008
60,281
7,490
1,840
Positively 4th Street
If we can't see an atom or a god, how do we 'prove' or 'disprove' these things exist, and do we even need proof? Why would proof be needed or desired? If we do a thorough investigation seeking evidence of the atom and of a god, where will we find ourselves?

So far:

The atom:

A god:
EMPTY - MPTY - MPT - MT - ___________________

Is this correct? If not, what am I missing? What scientific proof is there of a god existing?
 
If we can't see an atom or a god, how do we 'prove' or 'disprove' these things exist, and do we even need proof? Why would proof be needed or desired? If we do a thorough investigation seeking evidence of the atom and of a god, where will we find ourselves?

So far:

The atom:

A god:
EMPTY - MPTY - MPT - MT - ___________________

Is this correct? If not, what am I missing? What scientific proof is there of a god existing?
We can "see" an atom. Just not with our naked eyes.

I've yet to see a "god detector".
 
Americans can believe what they like to believe, at their own peril.

For Christians, the Catholic church has offered a break through from strictly creationist theory, by embracing Darwinian evolution!
 
Someone else who clearly does not know how to use Inference in probability terms , or , understands the role played by the Bradford Hill Criteria in scientifically examining links between correlation and causation .

It is only comparatively recently that we have become involved in probability as an explanation for matters and most people still imagine that the only simple acceptable full link to effect, is the only way to produce facts --- in simple terms by using Newtonian Physics .

Very old hat .
 
If we can't see an atom or a god, how do we 'prove' or 'disprove' these things exist, and do we even need proof? Why would proof be needed or desired? If we do a thorough investigation seeking evidence of the atom and of a god, where will we find ourselves?

So far:

The atom:

A god:
EMPTY - MPTY - MPT - MT - ___________________

Is this correct? If not, what am I missing? What scientific proof is there of a god existing?
Define seeing.

No evidence either way though, of whether just a random occurrence or higher intelligence.

Not out of the realm of possibility that much higher intelligence exists far beyond the scope of human understanding.
If we are it for advancement of life, the natural order better get its shit together.
 
Define seeing.

No evidence either way though, of whether just a random occurrence or higher intelligence.

Not out of the realm of possibility that much higher intelligence exists far beyond the scope of human understanding.
If we are it for advancement of life, the natural order better get its shit together.

possibilities vs probabilities: you are confused.
 
The Roman Catholic Church is a joke.
But they're first with an explanation, when all churches are going to need a damage control explanation soon.

And they're so big in numbers that they will cause the others to start thinking about the impossibility of the bible stories.

It's not likely that the CC would have gambled everything on evolution unless they knew it needed to come.
 
If we can't see an atom or a god, how do we 'prove' or 'disprove' these things exist, and do we even need proof? Why would proof be needed or desired? If we do a thorough investigation seeking evidence of the atom and of a god, where will we find ourselves?
Actually, we can see atoms using Scanning Tunneling Microscopy.
STM-image-of-atoms.jpg

God is a human concept that can't be seen.
 
It's probably more important that we believe in divine creation at this time in history. Science can't save us from ourselves, religion has a better chance. Asking science (human reasoning) to solve our problems is asking the fox to guard the henhouse. :omg:
 
It's probably more important that we believe in divine creation at this time in history. Science can't save us from ourselves, religion has a better chance. Asking science (human reasoning) to solve our problems is asking the fox to guard the henhouse. :omg:

Really? I guess you fail history.

No one is claiming that science exists to save anything. You frame things in ways that then gives you the answers you seek.

Beliefs in 'Divine creation' are infantile. People can be spiritual without believing in divine creation. There is no need to believe that shit, except childish fears of life/existence.
 
From the science angle ... we only model atoms with discreet components ... protons, electrons and such ... but in reality they're more like waves than particles ... it's just useful to think of atoms as chunks of matter ... especially in chemistry ... and biology ...

Unfortunately ... science doesn't define "good" and "evil" ... or "God" and "Satan" ... that's left for the philosopher ...
 


The End Times Kooks.



Love this one: Like you, he's all over the place. Struggling, Confused...

What is Thomas Sowell's philosophy?

His views are described as conservative, especially on social issues; libertarian, especially on economics; or libertarian-conservative. He has said he may be best labelled as a libertarian, though he disagrees with libertarians on some issues, such as national defense.
 

Forum List

Back
Top