If voters had a crystal ball would trump have won?

What you're looking at with Trump is a major success. The media, Democrats and the establishment don't want to hear it. They hate Trump for taking their scam income from them. If it came down to it, the people who hate Trump would rather see our country fail than lose one of their easy five dollar bills, evil SOBs that they are.
 
Good to see this thread and the screaming and hair pulling by the likes of the OP.
And here we are - the market is only down 2.6% YTD - which is quite remarkable considering the tariffs. And the markets are up almost 7% over this time last year.
O, as predicted a month ago - the markets have bounced back up. And if a trade deal is made with China that is beneficial to us - the markets will shoot up like a rocket.
And oh how sad the OP and the libs will be.
 
Good to see this thread and the screaming and hair pulling by the likes of the OP.
And here we are - the market is only down 2.6% YTD - which is quite remarkable considering the tariffs. And the markets are up almost 7% over this time last year.
O, as predicted a month ago - the markets have bounced back up. And if a trade deal is made with China that is beneficial to us - the markets will shoot up like a rocket.
And oh how sad the OP and the libs will be.
It’s sad to give Trump credit for partially fixing the shit storm he created.

That’s pathetic.
 
What is pathetic is your inability to comprehend what is said. And that wasn't it
The only time the markets shoot up is when Trump folds on his stupid trade war.

The only question is how much damage will be done before he does.
 

The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.​

During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.

And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.

But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.

The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.

Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.

On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.


Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ‘You can’t really watch the stock market’

President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.

With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.

“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,” Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show “Sunday Morning Futures.” “We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.”

Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, “I hate to predict things like that.” He later added, “Look, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.”


Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.

I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?

I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.

'If voters had a crystal ball would trump have won?'




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The only time the markets shoot up is when Trump folds on his stupid trade war.

The only question is how much damage will be done before he does.
How much will the gain be?
And there it is, you didn't even consider that. And the reason why is two-fold.
1) Your hate for Trump. It blinds you, you do not want to even consider a positive outcome. You would rather the country be brought to it's knees and suffer than for the country to improve. Because the former would mean Trump did something good.
2) The information you listen to also refuses to consider a positive outcome, and exaggerates all possible negatives, and even state it as if it has actually happened.

Take the idiots right here on this forum who said idiotic statements like "America has lost $7 TRILLION since trump took office!!!" - AAAAUUUGGH!!!!
Wow, that would be bad wouldn't it? So how come everything is actually going along pretty decent with $7 trillion in losses??? How?
Because it wasn't true. No one lost anything unless they sold their assets. 100% of these assets exist only on paper. And they kept saying this knowing that, and they kept saying even when the markets climbed back up, and half those "losses" came back.

You are being duped.
 
How much will the gain be?
And there it is, you didn't even consider that. And the reason why is two-fold.
1) Your hate for Trump. It blinds you, you do not want to even consider a positive outcome. You would rather the country be brought to it's knees and suffer than for the country to improve. Because the former would mean Trump did something good.
2) The information you listen to also refuses to consider a positive outcome, and exaggerates all possible negatives, and even state it as if it has actually happened.

Take the idiots right here on this forum who said idiotic statements like "America has lost $7 TRILLION since trump took office!!!" - AAAAUUUGGH!!!!
Wow, that would be bad wouldn't it? So how come everything is actually going along pretty decent with $7 trillion in losses??? How?
Because it wasn't true. No one lost anything unless they sold their assets. 100% of these assets exist only on paper. And they kept saying this knowing that, and they kept saying even when the markets climbed back up, and half those "losses" came back.

You are being duped.
Things don’t happen overnight.

For starters, industry stocked up before the tariffs hit. That’s why GDP was negative. Because of massive imports.

That stock is what we are living off of now. Supply chains will dry up, probably in the next month or two.

As for a deal with China, we have no idea what this is going to look like or what benefits will come from it, if any. But the damage is done. We used to be a safe place in the global financial system which has provided us with many benefits. We are no longer a safe place.
 
Things don’t happen overnight.

For starters, industry stocked up before the tariffs hit. That’s why GDP was negative. Because of massive imports.

That stock is what we are living off of now. Supply chains will dry up, probably in the next month or two.

As for a deal with China, we have no idea what this is going to look like or what benefits will come from it, if any. But the damage is done. We used to be a safe place in the global financial system which has provided us with many benefits. We are no longer a safe place.
"we have no idea"
Your words. Yet - with every post you claim everything is going to be worse. No possibility of gains.
That is wrong. Trump may cause more harm than good with this. See? I can say that because I don't worship the man. - AND - I can also say that what he is doing, something that should have been done 40 years ago before it got this bad, may work! It may. America could win big here. See? I can say that because I don't hate the man either.
 
"we have no idea"
Your words. Yet - with every post you claim everything is going to be worse. No possibility of gains.
That is wrong. Trump may cause more harm than good with this. See? I can say that because I don't worship the man. - AND - I can also say that what he is doing, something that should have been done 40 years ago before it got this bad, may work! It may. America could win big here. See? I can say that because I don't hate the man either.
When someone starts their house on fire, is there anyone standing around saying that there might be possible gains?

First identify exactly what the problem is then please tell us how you think this approach could possibly remedy it.
 
When someone starts their house on fire, is there anyone standing around saying that there might be possible gains?

First identify exactly what the problem is then please tell us how you think this approach could possibly remedy it.
And there it is again.... LOL

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The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.​

During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.

And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.

But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.

The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.

Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.

On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.


Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ‘You can’t really watch the stock market’

President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.

With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.

“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,” Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show “Sunday Morning Futures.” “We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.”

Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, “I hate to predict things like that.” He later added, “Look, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.”


Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.

I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?

I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.
Looking back, I still would vote for Trump. If the so-called Democrats had won, they would have gouged even more money from the taxpayers and spent even more money that the government doesn't actually have, thus putting us even deeper in debt and incurred even higher inflation.
We would be looking at more attacks on our Constitution and its Bill of Rights. They would have allowed millions more socialist migrants into the nation and given them the vote, ensuring that this nation would no longer be a multi-party Democracy, but instead, a one-party socialist nation that would be a "Democracy" in name only.
 
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When someone starts their house on fire, is there anyone standing around saying that there might be possible gains?

First identify exactly what the problem is then please tell us how you think this approach could possibly remedy it.
1. Reciprocal/fair tariffs is not setting a house on fire, its fixing a long-standing problem.

2. The problem is that too much manufacturing was. moved overseas.

3. Tariffs are already fixing the problem, many corporations are on-shoring supply chains to avoid the tariffs.

4. Van Jones found out when he asked black voters if they regretted their votes for Trump every one said they are proud of their votes for Trump.

Watch: Black Trump Voters Tell Van Jones They Would Vote For Him Again​

 
When someone starts their house on fire, is there anyone standing around saying that there might be possible gains?

First identify exactly what the problem is then please tell us how you think this approach could possibly remedy it.
Profound IRONY.
If the demented LEFT had any capability of insight, that would be exactly what they would ask themselves.

Here, Marener, have a💡
 
What you're looking at with Trump is a major success.
Do you believe receiving a plurality of votes entitles a prez to violate any part of the Constitution he wishes?
 
1. Reciprocal/fair tariffs is not setting a house on fire, its fixing a long-standing problem.

2. The problem is that too much manufacturing was. moved overseas.

3. Tariffs are already fixing the problem, many corporations are on-shoring supply chains to avoid the tariffs.

4. Van Jones found out when he asked black voters if they regretted their votes for Trump every one said they are proud of their votes for Trump.

Watch: Black Trump Voters Tell Van Jones They Would Vote For Him Again​

Anecdotes are only going to serve for confirmation bias. How many more companies are freezing because they don’t know what’s going to happen due to all the chaos? You dont know and unless you do, anecdotes are meaningless.
 

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