If voters had a crystal ball would trump have won?

Market lost all fundamentals about 2 years ago.

PEG ratios have been bananas.

Shit reminds me of 1999.

A 30% correction was needed. Housing market is similar.

The economy is a bubble that is bubbling.

What should the S&P be valued at and why?
 

The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.​

During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.

And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.

But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.

The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.

Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.

On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.


Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ā€˜You can’t really watch the stock market’

President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.

With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.

ā€œThere is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,ā€ Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show ā€œSunday Morning Futures.ā€ ā€œWe’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.ā€

Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, ā€œI hate to predict things like that.ā€ He later added, ā€œLook, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.ā€


Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.

I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?

I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.
LOL. You idiot, voters voted for Trump because they used the facts from the Biden administration. They didn't use a crystal ball.
 
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Man ... You don't know how to pick stocks for shit ... :auiqs.jpg:
No wonder you are pissed off most of the time ... Loser.

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Try these ... You could have gotten 19% in 5 days near the end of January ...
But February doesn't look that bad ... We'll see.

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But ... I hope you weren't betting on these guys ...
Even though you could have made killing with them 2022-2024 ... I did.

You know what they make ... The Switchblade Drone.
You know who their number one customer was ... The United States Government.
You know where the product was going ... Ukraine.
You know what happened ... We're not sending them anymore ... :auiqs.jpg:

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That depends. Is the crystal ball full of crap like Legacy media is?

Is it able to actually tell the American people the truth?
Gosh, what a surprise, another deflection. Did trump talk up the stock market during trump 1.0, taking credit for it? Yes, endlessly. Now he says you can't look at it.

Since we're on the subject of honesty, what would the outcome of the election had been if trump was honest about his plans? Namely, do nothing about inflation except for exacerbating it. Put tariffs on, then take them off, then put them on, then partially take them off, them threaten to make them worse.
 
So you think the market correction has nothing to do with Trump?
This current blip has something to do with his tariffs, but it will bounce back the moment he gets deals signed and the tariffs are lifted.

Ive been hearing rumblings for awhile about the market being wildly overvalued. That means we may have much more real market issue in the future.
 
This current blip has something to do with his tariffs, but it will bounce back the moment he gets deals signed and the tariffs are lifted.

Ive been hearing rumblings for awhile about the market being wildly overvalued. That means we may have much more real market issue in the future.
The tariffs are going to be lifted? I thought the tariffs were supposed to bring in massive amounts of money and make us all rich?


No one has any idea what Trump actually wants.
 
Don't worry, when the market rallies next month Democrats will rush to the cameras to claim credit for Biden. Just like they gave Obama credit for everything good in Trump's first term. Yeah, Democrats are the A-hole.
 
The tariffs are going to be lifted? I thought the tariffs were supposed to bring in massive amounts of money and make us all rich?


No one has any idea what Trump actually wants.
If he gets the other side to lift tgeir tariffs, yeah, thats what is going to happen. Forgive me if i dont take your unwarranted left wing pessimism seriously. :cuckoo:
 
If he gets the other side to lift tgeir tariffs, yeah, thats what is going to happen. Forgive me if i dont take your unwarranted left wing pessimism seriously. :cuckoo:
So Trump lied about all this revenue from tariffs?

And this is all about selling more milk to Canada?

None of this makes much sense.
 
Well, democrats are retarded, so this ^ is fairly typical for your kind.
You think the market is in free fall because of ā€œretarded Demsā€?

You’re making excuses for your cult leader because you can’t bear thinking Trump is wrong.
 

The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.​

During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.

And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.

But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.

The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.

Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.

On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.


Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ā€˜You can’t really watch the stock market’

President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.

With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.

ā€œThere is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,ā€ Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show ā€œSunday Morning Futures.ā€ ā€œWe’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.ā€

Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, ā€œI hate to predict things like that.ā€ He later added, ā€œLook, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.ā€


Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.

I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?

I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.


Hard core coping. :auiqs.jpg:
 
Ha! No. Sometimes it takes 10 years. Like in the early 2000s.

Do you have investments?

Well Democrats shouldn’t have a problem. They are experts in virtually everything so there is no doubt that any downturn was seen and they all got out and started shorting their investments on day 1 of Trump taking office. Savvy investors make money on the ups and the downs.

The market is down because Wall Street hates uncertainty. The tariff stuff has them guessing. Once it settles and the US starts realizing the benefits, it will rise and rise big. This is assuming that more and more horrible economic policies and lies aren’t uncovered. The Biden Administration lied and evidently instructed governing agencies to lie to inflate the markets. They did it multiple times with the jobs reports. They were bailing out low income home loans and keeping them from defaulting to give the appearance that the housing market was better than it was. Who knows what else will be uncovered, but better to do it now and get it all out in the open. The Biden Administration lied to the American people on a daily basis and spent money like drunken sailors.
 
Would he have won if voters knew that bungling deportation idiocy would ensue?

Trump Administration Abruptly Clears Out Migrants It Sent to GuantĆ”namo​

The Trump administration on Thursday transferred all of the Venezuelan migrants it had brought to the U.S. military base at GuantƔnamo Bay, Cuba, suddenly emptying a detention operation that it had just as abruptly started this month.

Two passenger planes operated by Global X, a charter aircraft company, flew to the naval base on Thursday morning and shuttled most of the migrants to an airfield in Honduras. They were to then be put aboard a Venezuelan plane for repatriation.

Tricia McLaughlin, a spokeswoman for the Homeland Security Department, said 177 migrants had been transferred to Venezuelan custody, and one had been brought back to an immigration facility in the United States. In a declaration filed in court earlier on Thursday, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement official had said 178 Venezuelans were at the base.

 
Is this supposed to show us you’re smart?

I rather think that is self evident .
But well done for catching on .

The problem you have here is withTroll Bot Bugger86 and his move toward "If" propositions . See OP Title.

Always asume that people have run out of interesting points to make , or have no good support evidence , when the word , "if " turns up .

He tries hard but is so pompous and not very smart --- so he is your man to keep your eyes on for the Fake stuff .
 
Well Democrats shouldn’t have a problem. They are experts in virtually everything so there is no doubt that any downturn was seen and they all got out and started shorting their investments on day 1 of Trump taking office. Savvy investors make money on the ups and the downs.

The market is down because Wall Street hates uncertainty. The tariff stuff has them guessing. Once it settles and the US starts realizing the benefits, it will rise and rise big. This is assuming that more and more horrible economic policies and lies aren’t uncovered. The Biden Administration lied and evidently instructed governing agencies to lie to inflate the markets. They did it multiple times with the jobs reports. They were bailing out low income home loans and keeping them from defaulting to give the appearance that the housing market was better than it was. Who knows what else will be uncovered, but better to do it now and get it all out in the open. The Biden Administration lied to the American people on a daily basis and spent money like drunken sailors.
Good god. You really do believe right wing propaganda and have no idea what you’re talking about.

No one instructed government agencies to lie on jobs report. That’s pure nonsense that you’re told to believe by right wing media.

Yes. The market hates uncertainty. They also hate trade wars. Trade wars generally don’t benefit anyone. They’re just destructive.

The thing about leftists is that they’re not always experts, but they do know how to listen to people who are.
 
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