Did the price of oil get to Don?

[Mashmont]

It stretches credulity to the breaking point to suggest those actions mean Iran started this war. It's just a talking point put of there in the MAGAsphere for the rubes to adopt.

Except Iran seized 66 American hostages in 1979. Purely an act of war, and universally regarded as the beginning of its conflict with the US. I don't know. Maybe you weren't around for that. I was.

 

[Mashmont]

It's obvious there was no plan given the stalemate we, and the world, have been dealing with for 3 months.

And your year of graduation from the Naval Academy was........?

 

[berg80]

Except Iran seized 66 American hostages in 1979. Purely an act of war, and universally regarded as the beginning of its conflict with the US. I don't know. Maybe you weren't around for that. I was.

I think the number was 52. It was certainly a violation of international law. An act of war, nope. I remember it well. It's the year I graduated from college.

 

[j-mac]

I think the number was 52. It was certainly a violation of international law. An act of war, nope. I remember it well. It's the year I graduated from college.

So, if I have your stance straight, It wasn't an act of war to take American hostages, it's ok if Iran gets a nuke, and America is so weak we can't even win against Iran so why even try....Is that about right?

Traitor.

 

[citygator]

They lost their top 50 guys, got their missile systems in ashes, and are hemorrghaging oil money, and somehow WE lost?
If you guys want Mashie's respect, you've got to speak with some sense.

Did we kill and blow shit up? Sure. Did we achieve any objectives? No. You have to be a blind cultist to think we won something - what did we win?

 

[citygator]

What did we lose?
Iran attacking other Gulf States was a major blunder, it put the Gulf states on our side, buying our defensive weapons.
Your anti-American perspective is typical for a democrat communist.

We started a war and achieved no objectives. That’s an L regardless of the body count.

 

[citygator]

You do have Iran tattoed on your butt dont you?

Fortunately Trump hasn’t agreed to that demand yet but based on what he has negotiated we might all be doing that. $100B to Iran, keep your nukes and keep a toll on the strait? Seems crazy to me.

 

[kyzr]

We started a war and achieved no objectives. That’s an L regardless of the body count.

Wrong.
The war is not over until both sides agree its over.
Iran's highly enriched uranium is buried under a mountain, Iran's military was hammered, Iran's economy was crippled by our blockade of Iranian oil, and the top levels of Iran's government were eliminated. That is a win not a loss.
Will Iran pursue nuclear weapons and ICBMs? They know what happens if they do, that is another win.

 

[berg80]

So, if I have your stance straight

You don't. But I see once again you have to make shit up because you can't win an argument based on the merits or the facts.

 

[berg80]

Will Iran pursue nuclear weapons and ICBMs? They know what happens if they do, that is another win.

And we know what happens if we, or Israel, attacks them again. The Strait gets closed. That's a no-win for the world.

 

[j-mac]

You don't. But I see once again you have to make shit up because you can't win an argument based on the merits or the facts.

I said, “Let me see if I have this straight”… I’m not making anything up. If I’m wrong then tell me where

 

[Mashmont]

We started a war and achieved no objectives. That’s an L regardless of the body count.

No objectives that CG is in on, we should say. Why the hell wasn't he consulted?