If voters had a crystal ball would trump have won?
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Marener
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Musk is making a monetary sacrifice for his shareholders, whom he has a fiduciary obligation to.
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So they are just incompetent? They just happen to skew to the upside in every report? Put on your thinking cap.
Leftists listen to anyone that bolsters their pre-conceptions and will not even entertain dissenting opinions. Those that don’t agree, are no longer “experts”. “Experts” are often victims of group think themselves and they don’t want to the outcast at the next work luncheon. Most “experts” are in academia and as we both know, academia is wildly leftist. Most business owners are conservative. One group has real world experience and the other are largely overgrown kids who have never left school. It isn’t that they aren’t intelligent, it is that they simply don’t have real world experience. Their world is largely theory, not necessarily reality.
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His shareholders are selling. That is on them, not him. Sorry.
Musk is under no obligation to appease his shareholders political beliefs.
/----/ If voters hadd a crystal ball, Clintoon, Obama and Biden never would have been elected.The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.
And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.
But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.
The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.
Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.
On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.
The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
Since his inauguration last month, President Trump has been relatively muted about the stock market. Investors are getting worried about an impending sell-off.www.nytimes.com
Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ‘You can’t really watch the stock market’
President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.
With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.
“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,” Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show “Sunday Morning Futures.” “We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.”
Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, “I hate to predict things like that.” He later added, “Look, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.”
Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.
I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?
I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.
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I don't think Musk anticipated that he would be targeted this way
But like Mike Lindell, the pillow guy, expect to be targeted as the FBI comes and takes all your devices to investigate you
That is how the Left rolls.
They are the largest most powerful crime syndicate in the world.
After what Trump has been through, I think he understands this now.
Trump was willing to pay the price, question is, is Musk willing to try and save the country?
May the Left burn in everlasting flame.
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Redfish
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fixing the mess created by Biden/harris cannot be done instantly, the damage was severe and will take time to get back to normal. No one ever claimed it would be an instant fix. I am not happy with the current stock market but I am smart enough to see better days ahead.The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.
And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.
But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.
The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.
Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.
On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.
The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
Since his inauguration last month, President Trump has been relatively muted about the stock market. Investors are getting worried about an impending sell-off.
Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ‘You can’t really watch the stock market’
President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.
With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.
“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,” Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show “Sunday Morning Futures.” “We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.”
Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, “I hate to predict things like that.” He later added, “Look, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.”
Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.
I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?
I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.
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The whole economy was being propped up by the Federal government.
The only problem with that, of course, is that it is not sustainable due to the massive debt.
If Trump and Musk are unsuccessful in being able to curb the fiscal trajectory into more debt and inflation, the Left will destroy the Republic once and for all.
I hate to say it, but it really would be a miracle if they are able to do this.
Marener
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You think you can do better? Every report isn’t skewed upside. That’s what you’re told to believe but it’s not true. Why do you
I listen to anyone who knows what they're talking about. Your group think leads you to believe that the BEA and BLS are lying because Biden told them to lie about economic data.
The real world businessmen don't seem to think that the trade war is so good for our economy.
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The market fall is meaningless. It will instantly bounce back.
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yes.The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.
And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.
But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.
The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.
Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.
On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.
The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
Since his inauguration last month, President Trump has been relatively muted about the stock market. Investors are getting worried about an impending sell-off.
Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ‘You can’t really watch the stock market’
President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.
With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.
“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,” Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show “Sunday Morning Futures.” “We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.”
Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, “I hate to predict things like that.” He later added, “Look, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.”
Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.
I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?
I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.
Marener
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“Instantly”? When is the “instant” going to happen?
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The moment the tariffs are lifted.
Marener
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Trump already said he was pausing a bunch of Canadian tariffs last week and it did nothing.
Besides, we need these tariffs to bring in hundreds of billions to make us so rich! That’s what Trump says.
So how are we going to get rich from tariff revenue when they’re lifted?
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U.S. Agrees to Resume Military Assistance to Ukraine
The United States agreed on Tuesday to immediately lift the pause on intelligence sharing and resume military assistance to Ukraine after more than eight hours of meetings in Saudi Arabia where Kyiv said it would support the Trump administration’s proposal for a 30-day cease-fire with Russia.
The talks in the coastal city of Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, brought fresh momentum to cease-fire negotiations that faltered following a public confrontation at the White House between the Ukrainian and U.S. presidents. The Trump administration had paused all military assistance and intelligence sharing in the aftermath of the meeting.
The announcement came hours after Russian officials said Ukrainian drones targeted Moscow in the largest bombardment of the war. There was no immediate comment from Russia, which did not have officials at the talks.
In a joint statement, the United States and Ukraine acknowledged that the terms of any cease-fire would be subject to Russia’s approval. They also agreed to conclude “as soon as possible” a deal to develop Ukraine’s critical mineral resources — an agreement that was put on hold after the Oval Office dust-up. That joint venture is intended to “expand Ukraine’s economy and guarantee Ukraine’s long-term prosperity and security,” the statement said.
U.S. Agrees to Resume Military Assistance to Ukraine
Me thinks the Orange Menace's preference for Russia's murderous dictator and war criminal got a bit too obvious. trump gave Putin such a public wet kiss people were beginning to talk. So Ukraine is our ally again, kinda. JD no doubt would love to see Zelenskyy grovel and beg, having not, in his opinion, displayed sufficient gratitude a week ago Friday.
So now what? The Waffler-in-Chief just increased tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum because Canada had the audacity to retaliate against Dotard's idiocy. Does anyone know what trump's going to do until he wakes up to have his hair done and makeup applied? No. Not even him.
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As we know from experience, nothing Musk, trump, or Leavitt say about DOGE savings can be trusted.
Tariffs are ‘lose-lose’ for U.S. jobs and industry, economist says: ‘There are no winners here’
President Donald Trump has spoken of tariffs as a job-creating behemoth.Tariffs will “create jobs like we have never seen before,” Trump said Tuesday during a joint session of Congress.
Economists disagree.
In fact, the tariff policies Trump has pursued since taking office would likely have the opposite effect, they said.
“It costs American jobs,” said Mark Zandi, chief economist of Moody’s.
He categorized tariffs imposed broadly as a “lose-lose.”
“There are no winners here in the trade war we’re seemingly being engulfed in,” Zandi said.
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I don't think your plan of letting democrat waste, fraud and corruption continue indefinitely is any kind of sustainable plan.The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
During his first term, President Trump regularly took credit for a booming stock market, citing soaring share prices as a measure of his success in office.
And after his election victory in November, he pointed to the market rise as a sign of optimism.
But since his inauguration in January, Mr. Trump has been relatively muted about stocks, even after the S&P 500 hit a record on Feb. 19.
The S&P 500 has since fallen almost every day, and the index is now lower than it was when Mr. Trump took office on Jan. 20.
Other indexes, including those more closely tied to the ebb and flow of the economy, have also fallen.
On Friday, the S&P 500 surged higher late in the day but remained lower for the week, its second consecutive week of losses for the first time since October. Other bullish reflections of Mr. Trump’s election have also faded, with Bitcoin tumbling roughly 20 percent over the past month.
The Stock Market Was One of Trump’s Favorite Talking Points. Not Lately.
Since his inauguration last month, President Trump has been relatively muted about the stock market. Investors are getting worried about an impending sell-off.
Trump says a transition period for the economy is likely: ‘You can’t really watch the stock market’
President Donald Trump and other senior White House officials have spent the past several days bracing Americans for a potential economic slowdown that they say will then lead to stronger growth ahead.
With fears brewing over the potential tariff impact, the labor market slowing and indicators pointed toward possible negative growth in the first quarter, the president and his top lieutenants are projecting a mostly optimistic outlook tempered with warnings about near-term churning.
“There is a period of transition, because what we’re doing is very big,” Trump said Sunday on the Fox News show “Sunday Morning Futures.” “We’re bringing wealth back to America. That’s a big thing. ... It takes a little time, but I think it should be great for us.”
Asked whether he thinks a recession is imminent, Trump said, “I hate to predict things like that.” He later added, “Look, we’re going to have disruption, but we’re OK with that.”
Who are the "we're OK with that" in his dismissal of the unfolding calamity? I suppose the oligarchs he surrounded himself with are. I'm sure he is, if for no other reason than not admitting a mistake.
I guess my question is, if trump ran on, "we are going to intentionally cause a lot of economic pain," and not, "I am going to fix everything on day one (even though he's breaking everything)," would he have won?
I realize the board's minions would vote for him no matter what. How about the undecideds who made the difference in the election? They voted for price reductions, not constant chaos.
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QUIT projecting! Having an opinion is one thing, but projecting it as fact is a totally LEFTIST phenomena.
How much they paying you BERGHOFF? To many of us are now aware of EXACTLY what is going on, so it no longer works!
And anyone else who wants to learn......take the time and watch this. You will end up LAUGHING all these Leftists off the board who have 15,000 posts per year; especially when you understand that their group is soooooo frickin small, most of them are all SOCKS to the account you are laughing at in the 1st place, or some other place on here, lolololol!
Redfish
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We have to hope they are successful. otherwise the USA is over
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