Zone1 If Trump isn't on the ballot, due to death or state law,

Which Republican candidate would you vote for?

  • Chris Christie

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • Ron DeSantis

    Votes: 8 38.1%
  • Nikki Haley

    Votes: 4 19.0%
  • Asa Hutchison

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Vivek Ramaswamy

    Votes: 7 33.3%

  • Total voters
    21
Which Treaty with Ukraine?


Everyone wants clean cheap energy. The execution is the most important part.

Again the execution is the most important part.

If I say we need to eliminate poverty that’s a great idea. If I do it by killing all the poor people that’s hardly a success.


You can’t just eat a wand and make that debt go away. What you’re saying is you want everyone else to pay for these people’s obligation.
There's a lot to each one of these issues that simple solutions are not the answer...

so no, just simply paying off the student loans aren't even a good thing...there needs to be massive reforms in the program and the government is not interested in taking on these issues.
But the average working person could really use the assistance.
 
There's a lot to each one of these issues that simple solutions are not the answer...

so no, just simply paying off the student loans aren't even a good thing...there needs to be massive reforms in the program and the government is not interested in taking on these issues.
But the average working person could really use the assistance.
This problem was caused by the Government getting involved in student loans to begin with. Before you had to go through a bank, and that loan officer said yes or no based on any number of things, also colleges had to keep prices reasonable because most 18y/os arent getting a 150k loan from a bank. All that changed when the Government took over student loans. I dont think the Government is going to be the solution to the problem it created.
 
This problem was caused by the Government getting involved in student loans to begin with. Before you had to go through a bank, and that loan officer said yes or no based on any number of things, also colleges had to keep prices reasonable because most 18y/os arent getting a 150k loan from a bank. All that changed when the Government took over student loans. I dont think the Government is going to be the solution to the problem it created.
They can if the prices are too high for the education...and then limit what degrees the loans can be used for. No more degrees in circus and acrobatics to produce professional clowns...or 15th century French poetry.

Let's stick with STEM degrees and a few liberal arts degrees that are needed...but at reasonable rates.
 
Like keeping our treaty with Ukraine....the execution of keeping it is crap...but it's the right thing to do.

The push for new cheap energy is good....the execution is crap.

New tech for transportation is good....again execution is crap.

Returning semiconductor tech to the USA is good....again execution is crap.

Retiring Student Loans for working people is good...again the execution of how its being done is crap.

I disagree.
I am far left, but the Ukraine can never be allowed to join NATO.
The Ukraine is inside the Russian defense grid, to if it joined NATO, that would give the US a first strike capability.
Russia would have to nuke the US before letting that happen.
So the US giving trillions to the Ukraine for weapons is really a bad idea.
The only possible results are for either the Ukraine to be defeated, or the US getting nuked.
And personally, I much prefer the Ukraine to be defeated over the US being nuked.

EVs, electric stoves, electric heaters, etc., are NOT "new cheap energy".
If we do not want to use fossil fuel, then we need something like bio fuel, nuclear, etc.
Wind and solar are no good because they are undependable and require huge batteries.
 
This problem was caused by the Government getting involved in student loans to begin with. Before you had to go through a bank, and that loan officer said yes or no based on any number of things, also colleges had to keep prices reasonable because most 18y/os arent getting a 150k loan from a bank. All that changed when the Government took over student loans. I dont think the Government is going to be the solution to the problem it created.

Wrong.
Pell grants go back over 50 years.
Tuition back then was $100/semester back then.
The problem is that universities have sold out and are only profit motivated these days, just like hospitals and medical suppliers.
What we need instead is more socialism that is not profit motivated.
That is what the whole rest of the world does, and it works better.
 
I disagree.
I am far left, but the Ukraine can never be allowed to join NATO.
The Ukraine is inside the Russian defense grid, to if it joined NATO, that would give the US a first strike capability.
Russia would have to nuke the US before letting that happen.
So the US giving trillions to the Ukraine for weapons is really a bad idea.
The only possible results are for either the Ukraine to be defeated, or the US getting nuked.
And personally, I much prefer the Ukraine to be defeated over the US being nuked.
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There is so much about this that I agree with. :bye1:
 
Wrong.
Pell grants go back over 50 years.
Tuition back then was $100/semester back then.
The problem is that universities have sold out and are only profit motivated these days, just like hospitals and medical suppliers.
What we need instead is more socialism that is not profit motivated.
That is what the whole rest of the world does, and it works better.
But they weren’t wholesale backing student loans, like we are now. What’s happened with college tuition is the natural and inevitable consequence of that. Colleges have just reacted to market forces. The government has said not only will they give most people a loan for X amount they’ve taken all the risk away from the colleges. It’s not like if the loans don’t get repaid the colleges don’t get their money.
 
I disagree.
I am far left, but the Ukraine can never be allowed to join NATO.
The Ukraine is inside the Russian defense grid, to if it joined NATO, that would give the US a first strike capability.
Russia would have to nuke the US before letting that happen.
So the US giving trillions to the Ukraine for weapons is really a bad idea.
The only possible results are for either the Ukraine to be defeated, or the US getting nuked.
And personally, I much prefer the Ukraine to be defeated over the US being nuked.

EVs, electric stoves, electric heaters, etc., are NOT "new cheap energy".
If we do not want to use fossil fuel, then we need something like bio fuel, nuclear, etc.
Wind and solar are no good because they are undependable and require huge batteries.
I don’t know how you remember to breathe. NATO is already sitting on thousands of miles of the Russian border. NATO already has first strike capabilities if it wants to exercise them.
 
I disagree.
I am far left, but the Ukraine can never be allowed to join NATO.
The Ukraine is inside the Russian defense grid, to if it joined NATO, that would give the US a first strike capability.
Russia would have to nuke the US before letting that happen.
So the US giving trillions to the Ukraine for weapons is really a bad idea.
The only possible results are for either the Ukraine to be defeated, or the US getting nuked.
And personally, I much prefer the Ukraine to be defeated over the US being nuked.

EVs, electric stoves, electric heaters, etc., are NOT "new cheap energy".
If we do not want to use fossil fuel, then we need something like bio fuel, nuclear, etc.
Wind and solar are no good because they are undependable and require huge batteries.
See?
I'm neither left or right...
The left has some good ideas but forcing people to solve problems in a very strict rigid dictatorial fashion is not good. We have a constitution...let's leave it alone because it has been working well for 250 years. Stop harassing a few wealthy citizens because you disagree with them. And especially leave the first amendment alone....however force these social media platforms to have an origination nation on posts...it's not identifying them except for the nation they are from. It will stop the foreign influence/propaganda in its tracks.

The Right has some good ideas too...but again their execution is crap. There needs to be accountability for the resulting solutions...especially when the Lazer focused solution ends up harming others. The national debt is going to plunge the nation into chaos and recession....people don't invest in businesses in this sort of environment...but to push for policies to line your own pockets?
How about Nancy Pelosi? She bought millions of stock and options lately....maybe look at that. Maybe appoint a decent SEC Chair for a change!
 
See?
I'm neither left or right...
The left has some good ideas but forcing people to solve problems in a very strict rigid dictatorial fashion is not good. We have a constitution...let's leave it alone because it has been working well for 250 years. Stop harassing a few wealthy citizens because you disagree with them. And especially leave the first amendment alone....however force these social media platforms to have an origination nation on posts...it's not identifying them except for the nation they are from. It will stop the foreign influence/propaganda in its tracks.
How exactly are you going to put a nation of origin tag on their post?
The Right has some good ideas too...but again their execution is crap. There needs to be accountability for the resulting solutions...especially when the Lazer focused solution ends up harming others. The national debt is going to plunge the nation into chaos and recession....people don't invest in businesses in this sort of environment...but to push for policies to line your own pockets?
How about Nancy Pelosi? She bought millions of stock and options lately....maybe look at that. Maybe appoint a decent SEC Chair for a change!
 
I'm neither left or right...
Excuse me for butting into your dialogue but neither am I left or right.
The left has some good ideas but forcing people to solve problems ...
Where do you get the idea that people are forced to do anything? I mean, OK, if you are speaking about the Biden maze of idiocy (as it applies to the US) then I maybe can understand your point but I get the impression that you are speaking about "the left" as in world Socialism or Communism. Am I seeing something in your words that isn't really there?

 
How exactly are you going to put a nation of origin tag on their post?
You have to have an ISP to access the internet and they have servers which transmit the data down a transatlantic cable or satellite (starlink) which can readily identify the origin. This way some schmuck in St. Petersburg Russia cannot pretend to be a redneck from Texas. (Happens often)

And even a proxy server (vpn) can't dupe it all if they don't want it to...it just requires the desire to make it happen. It's not that difficult anymore. (Despite the VPN claims)
 
Excuse me for butting into your dialogue but neither am I left or right.

Where do you get the idea that people are forced to do anything? I mean, OK, if you are speaking about the Biden maze of idiocy (as it applies to the US) then I maybe can understand your point but I get the impression that you are speaking about "the left" as in world Socialism or Communism. Am I seeing something in your words that isn't really there?
An all EV private vehicle by means of legislation is forced....

Forcing people to take a vaccine is a human rights violation.

Removing opportunity for the average person by ANY means (financial or otherwise) is tyranny.
 
You have to have an ISP to access the internet and they have servers which transmit the data down a transatlantic cable or satellite (starlink) which can readily identify the origin. This way some schmuck in St. Petersburg Russia cannot pretend to be a redneck from Texas. (Happens often)

And even a proxy server (vpn) can't dupe it all if they don't want it to...it just requires the desire to make it happen. It's not that difficult anymore. (Despite the VPN claims)

Nation states that are trying to put out propaganda 100% can mask where that propaganda is originating from. Even if it were possible to figure it out its not easy and social media companies arent going to invest the resources to do it. They would exhaust huge amounts of resources to play whack a mole.
 
Where do you get the idea that people are forced to do anything? I mean, OK, if you are speaking about the Biden maze of idiocy (as it applies to the US) then I maybe can understand your point but I get the impression that you are speaking about "the left" as in world Socialism or Communism. Am I seeing something in your words that isn't really there?
An all EV private vehicle by means of legislation is forced....

Forcing people to take a vaccine is a human rights violation.

Removing opportunity for the average person by ANY means (financial or otherwise) is tyranny.
So, I was seeing something that wasn't there.
 
Nation states that are trying to put out propaganda 100% can mask where that propaganda is originating from. Even if it were possible to figure it out its not easy and social media companies arent going to invest the resources to do it. They would exhaust huge amounts of resources to play whack a mole.
I'm not trying to stop propaganda....far from it. Propaganda is the vehicle used to free us from England 250 years ago. But a country of origin on a post....now that is enough of an identity to understand if I'm talking with someone from America or Iran or Albania.

And it very much is as easy as I'm saying...don't believe the hype of ISP's or the fiber optic line people. It would take about ten minutes at six server terminals to make it happen. That's about it.

What it is is that 8 bits to a byte and 8 bytes to a character. So....about 16 bytes of data bandwidth would need to be designated to a country of origin....across the undersea cables it's a lot...but not unreasonably so. Pretty easy and relatively inexpensive. (Although they will whine because "import taxes" can be applied.
 
I'm not trying to stop propaganda....far from it. Propaganda is the vehicle used to free us from England 250 years ago. But a country of origin on a post....now that is enough of an identity to understand if I'm talking with someone from America or Iran or Albania.

And it very much is as easy as I'm saying...don't believe the hype of ISP's or the fiber optic line people. It would take about ten minutes at six server terminals to make it happen. That's about it.

What it is is that 8 bits to a byte and 8 bytes to a character. So....about 16 bytes of data bandwidth would need to be designated to a country of origin....across the undersea cables it's a lot...but not unreasonably so. Pretty easy and relatively inexpensive. (Although they will whine because "import taxes" can be applied.

The point is the social media companies arent going to do that. Besides it would be wildly easy to get around it. Especially for a nation state
 

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